Message to Darren Clarke

heavyballs · 30-06-2011 06:53PM #1

ffs i was in a good mood this avo watching the golf untill you came on the screen with your moody crappy i dont give a toss the world's against me attitude.
For god sake,if you dont want to play golf don't,we don't care
(also message to Mannesaro,stop looking at the camera during interviews please....Butch Harmon style)

Trampas · 30-06-2011 07:21PM

He is so frustrating to watch.

He can rush over the shortest of putts and misses it by a mile

L.O.F.T · 30-06-2011 08:48PM

heavyballs wrote: »

For god sake,if you dont want to play golf don't,we don't care

+1, pure sour puss, as the old adage goes, he's got a face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle. He'll be in the hunt for Ryder Cup captaincy soon too, fingers crossed he doesn't get his cigar smoking misery guts mug into that particular frame.

Young_gunner · 01-07-2011 11:50AM

i'll prob be shot for saying this but i've always found Clarke very arrogant...

i seen him once at a charity match and he mis-read a putt and castigated his caddy for the mis-read infront of everybody.

tbh, if he was in contention for a big event, i'd be hoping he blew it.

patravers · 01-07-2011 11:59AM

I'M sorry... but am i missing something?? But as far as im aware Darren Clarke is a professional golfer??? Not a monkey on a lead for your personal entertainment. If you dont want to watch him switch channels.

A sunny disposition is not a pre-requisite for the european tour

Young_gunner · 01-07-2011 12:17PM

who says we don't want to watch him? i'm basically saying i think he's incredibly arrogant.

A monkey?

foxyboxer · 01-07-2011 12:26PM

I think a good comparison is with Graeme McDowell. He can come across at times as a bit cocky too, but he's a major winner and ryder cup hero etc and you can tolerate that. He also seems like a genuine and humble bloke who you could have a drink with.

Clarke, however has won nothing major of note, is cocky almost all the time in a "Don't you know who I am" manner, and seems from what i've seen to be a bit of a see you next tuesday with no redeeming features. Harsh?

Arseholes exist in every line of work and pro golf is no different.

the lawman · 01-07-2011 12:59PM

In all fairness I doubt any of you know what Clarke is like when he is not playing the sport and away from the game. Are you telling me you can complete a round without getting angry or frustrated at any point? Or without having a face like thunder when you miss a 4 footer? Give me a break.

As far as I know he is respected by most if not of all of the guys on tour so for that reason I hope he gets the Ryder Cup gig.

foxyboxer · 01-07-2011 01:12PM

Let's just say I hope McGinley get's it before Clarke.

the lawman · 01-07-2011 01:25PM

foxyboxer wrote: »

Let's just say I hope McGinley get's it before Clarke.

Let me just say I'm glad you're not on the Ryder Cup captain picking committee.

Riskymove · 01-07-2011 01:28PM

Young_gunner wrote: »

i'll prob be shot for saying this but i've always found Clarke very arrogant...

i seen him once at a charity match and he mis-read a putt and castigated his caddy for the mis-read infront of everybody.

tbh, if he was in contention for a big event, i'd be hoping he blew it.

tbh I think this is more about his quick temper rather than arrogance

his tendency to dwell on errors and get down on himself certainly contributes to his sulky reputation...but.....

I think he can funny and cheerful at times just as quickly

foxyboxer · 01-07-2011 01:44PM

the lawman wrote: »

Let me just say I'm glad you're not on the Ryder Cup captain picking committee.

Why?
I would be less inclined to root for a european team helmed by Clarke.
I couldn't have cared less if europe lost with Montgomerie.
I hope they win next year with Olazabal.

the lawman · 01-07-2011 01:55PM

foxyboxer wrote: »

Why?
I would be less inclined to root for a european team helmed by Clarke.
I couldn't have cared less if europe lost with Montgomerie.
I hope they win next year with Olazabal.

Because you would probably pick a captain basing it on your own personal preferences and on who is more jolly. I think the Ryder Cup captain needs a little more in his locker than a smile.

Can I also ask 'why?' to your three statements?

foxyboxer · 01-07-2011 02:07PM

the lawman wrote: »

Because you would probably pick a captain basing it on your own personal preferences and on who is more jolly. I think the Ryder Cup captain needs a little more in his locker than a smile.

Can I also ask 'why?' to your three statements?

McGinley strikes me as intelligent and organised.
I think he could do an excellent job in the role. That's just my 2c

All 3 statements are based on personal preferences.
Not a fan of Monty or Clarke, Olazabal is a gentleman (though he can be surly a la Clarke too!)

Riskymove · 01-07-2011 02:11PM

foxyboxer wrote: »

All 3 statements are based on personal preferences.
Not a fan of Monty or Clarke, Olazabal is a gentleman (though he can be surly a la Clarke too!)

? a strange idea to me

I want Europe to win regardless of captain, likewise regardless of who the coach of munster or manager of ireland is...I want those teams to win!!

the lawman · 01-07-2011 02:12PM

foxyboxer wrote: »

McGinley strikes me as intelligent and organised.
I think he could do an excellent job in the role. That's just my 2c

All 3 statements are based on personal preferences.
Not a fan of Monty or Clarke, Olazabal is a gentleman (though he can be surly a la Clarke too!)

It's accepted that everything is one's own opinion but to not want a European Team to win the Ryder Cup because you don't like the captain is rather daft if you don't mind me saying.

Also I'm sure McGinley would be an excellent captain and is all them things you say he would be. My point is maybe Darren would be too?

Miley Byrne · 01-07-2011 02:13PM

foxyboxer wrote: »

I think a good comparison is with Graeme McDowell. He can come across at times as a bit cocky too, but he's a major winner and ryder cup hero etc and you can tolerate that. He also seems like a genuine and humble bloke who you could have a drink with.

Clarke, however has won nothing major of note, is cocky almost all the time in a "Don't you know who I am" manner, and seems from what i've seen to be a bit of a see you next tuesday with no redeeming features. Harsh?

Arseholes exist in every line of work and pro golf is no different.

I wouldn't consider two WGCs "nothing major of note". He has also been in the worlds top 10.

And given what he's been through in the last 4 or 5 years I think he's entitled to be a bit grumpy from time to time. Give the man a break

Riskymove · 01-07-2011 02:17PM

denisoc16 wrote: »

And given what he's been thruogh in the last 4 or 5 years I think he's entitled to be a bit grumpy from time to time. Give the man a break

ah come one now...he was always the same ....no need to bring that into it

f22 · 01-07-2011 02:21PM

He has more natural talent than most of the European Tour but it's fair to say he does bugger all with it.

foxyboxer · 01-07-2011 02:25PM

denisoc16 wrote: »

I wouldn't consider two WGCs "nothing major of note". He has also been in the worlds top 10.

And given what he's been through in the last 4 or 5 years I think he's entitled to be a bit grumpy from time to time. Give the man a break

Winning 10/20/30 WGC's will enrich you but one Major will immortalise you.

the lawman · 01-07-2011 02:25PM

f22 wrote: »

He has more natural talent than most of the European Tour but it's fair to say he does bugger all with it.

He's been a professional golfer for most of his life, made shedloads of cash, lives in luxury and has won many titles and Ryder Cups!!

Yup he really has wasted all that natural talent.

Tell me what would you consider 'fulfilling his talent' bearing in my mind his actual level of capabilities and talent?

Young_gunner · 01-07-2011 02:27PM

the lawman wrote: »

Because you would probably pick a captain basing it on your own personal preferences and on who is more jolly. I think the Ryder Cup captain needs a little more in his locker than a smile.

Can I also ask 'why?' to your three statements?

what exactly has Clark got in his locker ?

foxyboxer · 01-07-2011 02:28PM

He's acknowledged himself in the past that he wasn't the "fittest" and that has cost him a few titles.

the lawman · 01-07-2011 02:30PM

Young_gunner wrote: »

what exactly has Clark got in his locker ?

I don't really know and I don't pretend to but to rule him out of being a captain coz he's a little grumpy around the course is just not cricket in my eyes.

But please feel free to tell me what he doesn't have in his locker seeing as you have watched him on the tele-box a few times.

the lawman · 01-07-2011 02:33PM

foxyboxer wrote: »

He's acknowledged himself in the past that he wasn't the "fittest" and that has cost him a few titles.

I think people are grasping at straws a wee bit.

Miley Byrne · 01-07-2011 02:34PM

f22 wrote: »

He has more natural talent than most of the European Tour but it's fair to say he does bugger all with it.

Agreed, very natural ability.So it must be tough on him knowing that he has all that ability but very rarely can he produce on the big occasion these days.

Having said that, I'll be having a little each way wager on him in the Open.

the lawman · 01-07-2011 02:37PM

denisoc16 wrote: »

Agreed, very natural ability.So it must be tough on him knowing that he has all that ability but very rarely can he produce on the big occasion these days.

Having said that, I'll be having a little each way wager on him in the Open.

Hahaha I will have to throw fiver on this too now!!

foxyboxer · 01-07-2011 02:38PM

the lawman wrote: »

I think people are grasping at straws a wee bit.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HFI/is_3_55/ai_114373155/
http://www.golftoday.co.uk/news/yeartodate/news04/clarke.html

He made an attempt to 'clean up' his lifestyle after blowing the lead at the Masters.
He blamed his weight at the time and the Augusta hills.
Nothing came of his new lifestyle changes and he regressed back to the way he was.

the lawman · 01-07-2011 02:48PM

foxyboxer wrote: »

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HFI/is_3_55/ai_114373155/
http://www.golftoday.co.uk/news/yeartodate/news04/clarke.html

He made an attempt to 'clean up' his lifestyle after blowing the lead at the Masters.
He blamed his weight at the time and the Augusta hills.
Nothing came of his new lifestyle changes and he regressed back to the way he was.

I meant grasping at straws in a different context........oh never mind this is rather tedious now.

foxyboxer · 01-07-2011 02:52PM

Agreed. Still the net conclusion i've drawn is that he's still a surly prick.

endabob1 · 01-07-2011 02:57PM

I've met him twice and found him an absolute gent on both occasions, the first time was when Heather had just been diagnosed with cancer (or it had just become public knowledge) he stood and signed autographs for several kids (including my godson) in the Sports Cafe in London, I expressed my sympathy about Heathers condition and he thanked me before moving on to sign more autographs. Met him again during a tournament and congratulated him on a good round and again he was nice as pie, chatted briefly and he went away about his business.

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