Rapist **** as victim give evidence

Nodin · 30-06-2011 01:14PM

You have to wonder, going on what came out in the trial, why he's being sent to a prison. He's clearly fucked up in some serious manner, and he's not going to get cured staring at bars for a few years, waiting to get out. This comes up a lot, with feckers displaying clearly deviant behaviour, getting sent away, then coming out as bad or worse as they went in.

_feedback_ · 30-06-2011 01:15PM

32 posts and no mention of a swan. I'm impressed AH.

What a sick fúck. What does 15 years translate to in Irish jail time?

the_bigman · 30-06-2011 01:19PM

elviscostello wrote: »

32 posts and no mention of a swan. I'm impressed AH.

What a sick fúck. What does 15 years translate to in Irish jail time?

About four according to a Gard mate of mine.

But surely the very point is that he's 'sick'. You cannot be compos mentis to behave like that. As such, it's difficult to apply the normal rules of the law.

Was he even fully conscious of what he was doing, in the strictest sense of the word?

The man does indeed need to be locked up... but in a mental health facility.

the_bigman · 30-06-2011 01:20PM

Nodin wrote: »

You have to wonder, going on what came out in the trial, why he's being sent to a prison. He's clearly fucked up in some serious manner, and he's not going to get cured staring at bars for a few years, waiting to get out. This comes up a lot, with feckers displaying clearly deviant behaviour, getting sent away, then coming out as bad or worse as they went in.

Exactly Nodin.

You can't actually treat people like this like normal 'criminals'.

Greentopia · 30-06-2011 01:20PM

sceptre wrote: »

I'm almost unshockable these days but that's pretty shocking.

Rape is obviously a terrible crime that the victim may live with for the rest of her life but anyone who can first do that and then masturbate in court while the testimony of the rape is being recounted belongs somehow on an even higher level of sickness. I wouldn't let someone like that out of prison or the part of a mental hospital where they keep dangerous unrepentants.

And that's what would worry me.
What happens when this guy gets out after serving his sentence?? He sound like he definitely has mental health issues and should be locked away until he is no longer deemed a threat to women. And if treatment doesn't work on him-(will he even get any in prison??) he should not be allowed out ever again.

Better still he should have been sent back to Poland to serve his sentence there and never allowed back into this country.
We have enough of our own scumbags like him to deal with without looking after other countries at tax payers expense.

Karona · 30-06-2011 01:22PM

That completely disgusts me.

How could they let someone like him into the country, putting women at risk because of him.

Nodin · 30-06-2011 01:30PM

the_bigman wrote: »

Exactly Nodin.

You can't actually treat people like this like normal 'criminals'.

The test for his freedom has to be 'is he a risk' as oppossed to 'is his time up' and the place for that is a secure facility, not the joy.

TwoShedsJackson · 30-06-2011 01:32PM

elviscostello wrote: »

32 posts and no mention of a swan. I'm impressed AH.

What a sick fúck. What does 15 years translate to in Irish jail time?

He'd get a quarter off for 'good behaviour', which would mean about 11 years served, but the chances of this guy getting through prison with 'good behaviour' intact, I'd say are about nil.

My name is URL · 30-06-2011 01:32PM

What's the situation atm regarding background checks on immigrants? Are they carried out at all?

DrumSteve · 30-06-2011 01:35PM

I'm actually at a loss for words here.

this chap was cracking one out as she was reliving it? That is one sick ****.

TheBunk1 · 30-06-2011 01:35PM

Maybe he'd got his hands on some alcohol and Nurofen Plus....It has happened before, like :rolleyes:

Seriously though, they should have thrown away the key for this piece of sh*t

Da Shins Kelly · 30-06-2011 01:43PM

the_bigman wrote: »

About four according to a Gard mate of mine.

But surely the very point is that he's 'sick'. You cannot be compos mentis to behave like that. As such, it's difficult to apply the normal rules of the law.

Was he even fully conscious of what he was doing, in the strictest sense of the word?

The man does indeed need to be locked up... but in a mental health facility.

Exactly. The man clearly has mental problems. The reactions of people on here, saying things like 'he should be castrated!' or 'torture him!' are perfect examples of why the mob should never be allowed to rule. People love to act the vigilante without knowing anything about what they're talking about. I'm not saying that what he did wasn't wrong, it was and it's sick. But that's the thing - the man is clearly sick mentally. He should be treated as such. Since when do we torture or castrate mentally ill people?

Lock him up, certainly, but in the right facility. This is a major problem everywhere. Mentally ill people are repeatedly locked up in jails with other criminals when mentally ill people who commit crimes cannot be considered criminals in the same way as, say, a gangland criminal. A gang banger who shoots a rival does that knowing the consequences and fully understanding what they're doing. I'm not sure that this man is fully aware of what he's doing. Again, I'm not excusing his behaviour or crime, but he needs to be seen for what he is - a very sick individual.

stevejr · 30-06-2011 01:45PM

TheBunk1 wrote: »

Maybe he'd got his hands on some alcohol and Nurofen Plus....It has happened before, like :rolleyes:

Lol:pac:

Seriously though, according to the report, it also seems as though the guy intentionally scalded himself to perhaps influence the trial.

That's the behaviour of someone who is not just crazy, but also very cunning and dangerous.

wyndham · 30-06-2011 01:51PM

The issue of why he was allowed enter the country and that type of thing is irrelevant. We export more than our own fair share of filth from this country.
For example, where is Larry Murphy now? Or look at the amount of Irish scum on the Costa del Sol or in Amsterdam.

Michael 09 · 30-06-2011 01:52PM

dlofnep wrote: »

CardBordWindow wrote: »

In the likes of Australia and the States, you're criminal record is looked at before you're allowed in to work. Why doesn't Ireland have any system?

I'm assuming it's because of our EU membership. Can someone clarify?

The Treaty of Rome allows for free movement of EU citizens among member states. Article 4 (I think, open to correction on that)

Spread · 30-06-2011 01:52PM

TheBunk1 wrote: »

Maybe he'd got his hands on some alcohol and Nurofen Plus....It has happened before, like :rolleyes:

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Anyone with a predilection for playing with themselves (in public) should be made wear boxing gloves on top of the handcuffs. And for fcuk sake hide the Nurofen.

Thinspired · 30-06-2011 01:53PM

I'd be more concerned about the fact that the guy's defence lawyers probably got every psychiatrist under the sun to look at him and try to get him declared insane or unfit to stand trial but couldn't... which means what in the eyes of mental health experts he was of sound mind and knew exactly what he was doing, but did it anyway.

That's not a sign of being mentally ill, that's a sign of being a psychopath. ie mentally fit but with no conscience or concern for right or wrong.

Also the fact that they believe he threw the boiling water over himself to delay the trial - not the actions of a mentally ill man, rather those of someone calculating who will go to extreme lengths to achieve his means.

The guy's a psychopath and there's no cure for that. All the counselling in the world won't change him.

RichieC · 30-06-2011 01:53PM

One bullet; Bang bang.

Taltos · 30-06-2011 01:53PM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Exactly. The man clearly has mental problems. The reactions of people on here, saying things like 'he should be castrated!' or 'torture him!' are perfect examples of why the mob should never be allowed to rule. People love to act the vigilante without knowing anything about what they're talking about. I'm not saying that what he did wasn't wrong, it was and it's sick. But that's the thing - the man is clearly sick mentally. He should be treated as such. Since when do we torture or castrate mentally ill people?

Lock him up, certainly, but in the right facility. This is a major problem everywhere. Mentally ill people are repeatedly locked up in jails with other criminals when mentally ill people who commit crimes cannot be considered criminals in the same way as, say, a gangland criminal. A gang banger who shoots a rival does that knowing the consequences and fully understanding what they're doing. I'm not sure that this man is fully aware of what he's doing. Again, I'm not excusing his behaviour or crime, but he needs to be seen for what he is - a very sick individual.

And who gets to pay for this "treatment"?
We do - there is a large chance he is irredeemable / untreatable.
My suggestion is that in such cases we execute and use his organs for people on urgent waiting lists. As per an earlier similar post we can even then provide a small % of what his incarceration would have cost us to his family.

But to lock him up for a few short years (4) only to allow him back out on our streets - that to me is barbaric. This guy is just going to do this again - and we will all be back on here bemoaning how sick he must be and what extra treatment he now needs.

Bleeding hearts do my head in - lets see how you feel if he was to attack some relative of yours.

rokossovsky · 30-06-2011 01:58PM

The Mods make me laugh on Boards.
Here we have a bunch of trolls advocating among other things, ritualised torture, internment, summary justice without trial, gang rape, execution, thinly veiled xenophobia and castration for a person who is clearly seriously mentally disturbed .
I understand the trolls - venting your anger and all against this monster and it is AH after all.
However in the real world we are signatories to a Convention on Human Rights that was initiated after the WW2 in an attempt to eliminate these very type of abuses which were doled out by the Nazis to Jews Gays Politicals Gypsies and the mentally ill amongst others. Have the Mods nothing to say to people advocating violent retribution or are they keeping their heads below the parapet?
Makes me laugh cos I got banned from a forum for a month because I had a light hearted jibe at someone. I should have said at the time that I was going to pull his finger nails off and then shoot him in the head the next time I saw him. Mods me hole!

pickarooney · 30-06-2011 01:58PM

No jokes about his name allowed, I take it?

DrumSteve · 30-06-2011 01:59PM

Taltos wrote: »

And who gets to pay for this "treatment"?
We do - there is a large chance he is irredeemable / untreatable.
My suggestion is that in such cases we execute and use his organs for people on urgent waiting lists. As per an earlier similar post we can even then provide a small % of what his incarceration would have cost us to his family.

But to lock him up for a few short years (4) only to allow him back out on our streets - that to me is barbaric. This guy is just going to do this again - and we will all be back on here bemoaning how sick he must be and what extra treatment he now needs.

Bleeding hearts do my head in - lets see how you feel if he was to attack some relative of yours.

And what would happen if the chap was wrongfully convicted?

AudreyHepburn · 30-06-2011 02:00PM

I actually don't know how to respond to this....I am lost for words.

This man needs to be locked up, be that in prison or a mental health facility. He is a danger to women.

Can I, however, ask that those calling for him to be killed/castrated/tortured try to remember we live in a civilised soicety where such actions really have no place. Locking him for life, or until he can be no longer called a threat to women is enough. Anything else is just lowering ourselves to his level tbh.

Smeefa · 30-06-2011 02:00PM

wyndham wrote: »

The issue of why he was allowed enter the country and that type of thing is irrelevant. We export more than our own fair share of filth from this country.
For example, where is Larry Murphy now? Or look at the amount of Irish scum on the Costa del Sol or in Amsterdam.

Yeah I was just thinking the same thing. Remember seeing the thread about Larry Murphy returning to Ireland from Spain - a few posters came out with such trash, saying the Spanish law enforcement can deal with him/I'm just glad he's out of Ireland etc...

Freddie59 · 30-06-2011 02:01PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Why was he allowed out of his home country?

Why was he allowed into Ireland?

admiralofthefleet · 30-06-2011 02:01PM

why is he still here? he should serve his sentence in poland and not cost the tax payers here a cent

G_R · 30-06-2011 02:01PM

CardBordWindow wrote: »

NTC wrote: »

OMG. You can't make this stuff up.

Why are we allowing CONVICTED CRIMINALS into this country!

This guy is a nut job by the sounds of it and should never be allowed walk the streets again.

In the likes of Australia and the States, you're criminal record is looked at before you're allowed in to work. Why doesn't Ireland have any system?

In fairness, we do. Just not for people in the EU. As an EU citizen he unfortunately has the right to live anywhere he chooses within the 27 states. If someone from the US applied for a VISA to live here it would be refused with a history like that.

Normally I think the free movement of people is a great part of the EU, but it should be suspended if you have a conviction like this in your home country.

Freddie59 · 30-06-2011 02:02PM

wyndham wrote: »

The issue of why he was allowed enter the country and that type of thing is irrelevant. We export more than our own fair share of filth from this country.
For example, where is Larry Murphy now? Or look at the amount of Irish scum on the Costa del Sol or in Amsterdam.

And this validates his attack and behaviour? They should all be locked up. Permanently. Preferably on a mid-Atlantic island.

rokossovsky · 30-06-2011 02:03PM

RichieC wrote: »

One bullet; Bang bang.

two bullets surely??...or is that the ricochet:rolleyes:

Freddie59 · 30-06-2011 02:03PM

Michael 09 wrote: »

The Treaty of Rome allows for free movement of EU citizens among member states. Article 4 (I think, open to correction on that)

More's the pity.

Rapist **** as victim give evidence

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