Challenging My Moral Beliefs

slum dog · 30-06-2011 09:45AM #1

Yesterday I decided I would challeng my moral beliefs. I went to the shop to buy my friend a phone as she couldnt do it due to her having an argument with the sales assistant that morning. She gave me the exact price of the phone and when I bought it the sales assistant discovered I qualified for a 30 pound discount. When I realised this, I realised my friend would be very happy once she discovered she had saved herself the 30 pound. Instead, I pocketed the money and never mentioned the discount to my friend even though I was so consumed with guilt. My friend was none the wiser. I decided there and then that I would no longer be bound to my moral beliefs, and at every opportunity I will ruthlessly challenge them. This for me raises alot of questions. Where do our moral beliefs come from? Is it birth, are we born with them or is just what we perceive as societies codes?

I believe our moral codes shape who we are and if we are to truly discover ourselves and embrace individuality, we need to abandon them at al costs!

Bloody Nipples · 30-06-2011 09:50AM

the tl;dr version: "I have decided to become a thief."

sollar · 30-06-2011 09:50AM

By your friend a pint to ease the guilt slum dog millionaire

Micky Dolenz · 30-06-2011 09:52AM

Thank fcuk I don't have sneaky mates like you. Or maybe I do and I don't know it. That's the worst thing about sneaky people, they are.....sly.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 30-06-2011 09:52AM

slum dog wrote: »

I qualified for a 30 pound discount.

I supposed we're gonna have to start calling you "slim dog" now, huh?

Seachmall · 30-06-2011 09:53AM

Not ****ing people over is typically innate but some concepts are abstract and don't really qualify (even though they might be intellectually the same thing they don't generate emotional responses).

stovelid · 30-06-2011 09:53AM

This is what happens when kids discover The Fountainhead during overly long school holidays. Time to reduce school summer holidays to a fortnight.

Sanjuro · 30-06-2011 09:53AM

Glad I don't have friends like you, OP.

The question you asked is nature vs. nurture. There is no answer, really. Just theories.

Sweatynutsack · 30-06-2011 09:54AM

Your friend was prepared to spend the money either way !!
I would'nt feel guilty, you done exactly what he/she would do to you

OutlawPete · 30-06-2011 09:54AM

slum dog wrote: »

She gave me the exact price of the phone and when I bought it the sales assistant discovered I qualified for a 30 pound discount.

So your friend wouldn't have got that discount? Your money so. If my mate was buying a merc for €20,000 and I could get it for €18,000 .. I'd tell him I could get it for €19,000, then everyone wins, lovely jubbly. You need to get in touch with your inner Del Boy mate.

Micky Dolenz · 30-06-2011 09:54AM

I blame your parent/s.

who the fug · 30-06-2011 09:55AM

Pass

BBDBB · 30-06-2011 09:58AM

you have an interesting definition of the term "mate"

MungBean · 30-06-2011 09:58AM

I dont know which is worse, the fact that you sold your morals for 30 quid or the fact that ya think it was a great idea.

Morals are based on social etiquette, if you act like a cúnt people will think your a cúnt and wont want anything to do with ya.

mackg · 30-06-2011 09:59AM

–noun
1. a person attached to another by feelings of affection or personal regard.

2. a person who gives assistance; patron; supporter: friends of the Boston Symphony.

3. a person who is on good terms with another; a person who is not hostile: Who goes there? Friend or foe?

You clearly used the wrong word here, friend does not apply to your relationship with this person, perhaps my "mark" or "target" would be more appropriate.

Logical Fallacy · 30-06-2011 09:59AM

slum dog wrote: »

I believe our moral codes shape who we are and if we are to truly discover ourselves and embrace individuality, we need to abandon them at al costs!

There is a lot of basic reading that you need to do before you can appreciate how true or flawed that statement is.

I would suggest starting with Cosmo, that will put your right.

Pretty_Pistol · 30-06-2011 10:03AM

Did your friend not see the discount on the receipt? I couldn't do that I'd feel too guilty.

kingtut · 30-06-2011 10:04AM

It was your friends money not yours! GIVE IT BACK! :mad:

slum dog · 30-06-2011 10:05AM

Pretty_Pistol wrote: »

Did your friend not see the discount on the receipt? I couldn't do that I'd feel too guilty.

no i destroyed it before she could find out

stovelid · 30-06-2011 10:05AM

On a serious note, it's hypocritical to jettison a cherry-picked instance of what you call morality to justify a single incident that is financially beneficial to you when you exist under the protective umbrella of many other ostensibly 'hypocritical' societal codes such as the ones that (mostly) facilitate the safe ownership of your own possessions and strive to protect you from assault, rape, or murder.

How are you fixed for the Junior cert next year?

OutlawPete · 30-06-2011 10:06AM

OP, on a scale of 1 to 10, how wealthy are you and how wealthy is your mate?

As, this is the crux of issue on whether you are going to hell, or are in fact .. a latter day Robin Hood.

kingtut · 30-06-2011 10:06AM

slum dog wrote: »

no i destroyed it before she could find out

and so if it breaks or she needs a replacement she has no proof of purchase.... now who is a clever boy then :pac:

slum dog · 30-06-2011 10:06AM

kingtut wrote: »

It was your friends money not yours! GIVE IT BACK! :mad:

technically she was willing to depart withe the 90 quid anyway. she got her phone, the shop got its money and i got a discount!

RedXIV · 30-06-2011 10:07AM

kingtut wrote: »

It was your friends money not yours! GIVE IT BACK! :mad:

Technically, and I stress this, its not his friends money. Had the process been carried out by the friend, they would have paid full whack. technically its the companies money he's taken but even still, to earn the discount, it would imply he's providing a service to the company he made the purchase from which would imply he's "earned" the discount.

Pompey Magnus · 30-06-2011 10:07AM

Bloody Nipples wrote: »

the tl;dr version: "I have decided to become a thief."

The OP qualified for the discount, not the friend. Why should the friend get the benefit of a reward the phone company gave to the OP for his past custom with them?

MitchKoobski · 30-06-2011 10:07AM

Call it your fee for having to deal with her issues.

She had an argument with the sales assistant, so she sent you in. Sounds to me like she rightly pissed off the sales assistant, wouldn't admit the argument was wrong, and so sent you in to do her work for her.

This entitles you to a "putting up with this bullshít" fee.

digme · 30-06-2011 10:08AM

slum dog wrote: »

no i destroyed it before she could find out

now i know your story is fake

Logical Fallacy · 30-06-2011 10:09AM

To be honest, this only becomes a true morality experiment if you tell your friend what you did.

The fact that you claim you have destroyed the receipt and kept the money implies you didn't want your friend to find out, so have some kind of guilt about things. As such, you are not as moral free over the issue as you claim.

sollar · 30-06-2011 10:09AM

You know how boards works by now OP. If you came on saying you give your friend the €30 discount... 90% of posters would be telling you you should have kept it.

slum dog · 30-06-2011 10:09AM

stovelid wrote: »

On a serious note, it's hypocritical to jettison a cherry-picked instance of what you call morality to justify a single incident that is financially beneficial to you when you exist under the protective umbrella of many other ostensibly 'hypocritical' societal codes such as the ones that (mostly) facilitate the safe ownership of your own possessions and strive to protect you from assault, rape, or murder.

How are you fixed for the Junior cert next year?

the idea had been lingering in my mind for quite a while now, and just had to find the courage within to go through with it.
been a nice guy in life gets you nowhere. its a dog eat dog world out there

MungBean · 30-06-2011 10:11AM

slum dog wrote: »

the idea had been lingering in my mind for quite a while now, and just had to find the courage within to go through with it.
been a nice guy in life gets you nowhere. its a dog eat dog world out there

And you think what you did was courageous ? lol jesus christ your messed up.

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