Graeme McDowell wants the "British" open played at Portrush, Co.Antrim - huh ?

dsmythy · 28-06-2011 09:27PM

Unless there's UKanians walking around then I don't see the issue. Irish "nationalists" as ever dealing with the big issues.

Sid_Justice · 29-06-2011 04:33PM

ISDW wrote: »

But have you ever tried to spend any NI banknotes in England or Wales? Not a hope, shops refuse to accept them, even though they are legal tender.

only because they look funny and are made out of plastic

Micky Dolenz · 29-06-2011 04:34PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Who the fcuk cares

And its not pedantic to point out that no part of Ireland is part of "Britain".

The Northern part is.

who the fug · 29-06-2011 04:36PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

NI is part of Britain. I don't get the outrage.

If you were a taxpayer in London you would

Wolfe Tone · 29-06-2011 04:36PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

The Northern part is.

No, its part of the UK, not part of Britain.

Hence the name... "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

pickarooney · 29-06-2011 04:41PM

ISDW wrote: »

But have you ever tried to spend any NI banknotes in England or Wales? Not a hope, shops refuse to accept them, even though they are legal tender.

It almost defies belief that in an era where you can spend the same banknotes in Bundoran and Limassol that the British won't even accept their own money. I think I got 4 different pound notes/coins last time I was in Scotland and couldn't spend the notes in England.

who the fug · 29-06-2011 04:42PM

pickarooney wrote: »

It almost defies belief that in an era where you can spend the same banknotes in Bundoran and Limassol that the British won't even accept their own money. I think I got 4 different pound notes/coins last time I was in Scotland and couldn't spend the notes in England.

Do you think Scotland has got the hint?

Micky Dolenz · 29-06-2011 04:43PM

who the fug wrote: »

If you were a taxpayer in London you would

I spent many years as a tax payer in Britain and have no issue with what my taxes were spent on.

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

No, its part of the UK, not part of Britain.

Hence the name... "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

Ruled by the British, Paid for by the British, Full of Union Jacks, aka British Army flag.

Looks pretty British to me.

Wolfe Tone · 29-06-2011 04:45PM

Micky, what you are doing here is quite unfair, and you know it.

Micky Dolenz · 29-06-2011 04:47PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Micky, what you are doing here is quite unfair, and you know it.

What?

Giving my opinion? Am I not allowed to partake in a discussion. You said something and I don't agree with it, whats the issue?

Fratton Fred · 29-06-2011 04:52PM

who the fug wrote: »

Do you think Scotland has got the hint?

They're slowly getting there.

I believe the SNP is now the most popular political party in England.

Harry Angstrom · 29-06-2011 04:53PM

Why do we care so much about McDowell and McIlroy? They're NOT Irish, however much we pathetically want to claim them. I heard Rory McIlroy last week talking about Padraig Harrington, saying that hopefully it won't be too long before an Irish player wins a Major again. Clearly he DOES NOT see himself as representing Ireland, neither does McDowell. I don't get the sychophancy in the Irish media falling over these two. McIlroy will be representing the UK in the next Olympics yet I'm pretty certain that at the end of the year when RTE have their sports review of the year show McIlroy will be all over it like a rash. :rolleyes:

And the last time I checked Port Rush was part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. That's a political fact, not an opinion.
I don't see any reason why they shouldn't play the British Open there. It was played there before.

Wolfe Tone · 29-06-2011 04:55PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

What?

Giving my opinion? Am I not allowed to partake in a discussion. You said something and I don't agree with it, whats the issue?

Trying to get me involved in a debate on the national question by posting something pretty much akin to Thatcher saying that the north is "as British as Finchley" when you well know what will happen if I do.

Seachmall · 29-06-2011 05:00PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Ruled by the British, Paid for by the British, Full of Union Jacks, aka British Army flag.

Looks pretty British to me.

Great Britain is an Island.
Ireland is an Island.
N.I. is on the island of Ireland.

Geographically speaking N.I. is as much a part of Britain as the R.O.I. is, that is to say it's not.

N.I. is in the UK which deals with the politics of the matter, not the geography.

RichieC · 29-06-2011 05:02PM

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Why do we care so much about McDowell and McIlroy? They're NOT Irish, however much we pathetically want to claim them. I heard Rory McIlroy last week talking about Padraig Harrington, saying that hopefully it won't be too long before an Irish player wins a Major again. Clearly he DOES NOT see himself as representing Ireland, neither does McDowell. I don't get the sychophancy in the Irish media falling over these two. McIlroy will be representing the UK in the next Olympics yet I'm pretty certain that at the end of the year when RTE have their sports review of the year show McIlroy will be all over it like a rash. :rolleyes:

And the last time I checked Port Rush was part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. That's a political fact, not an opinion.
I don't see any reason why they shouldn't play the British Open there. It was played there before.

they're great golfers, the media tends to fawn over stars. welcome to earth.

Micky Dolenz · 29-06-2011 05:04PM

Seachmall wrote: »

Great Britain is an Island. Northern Ireland is in Ireland (which is also an Island).

Geographically speaking N.I. is as much a part of Britain as the R.O.I. is, that is to say it's not.

N.I. is in the UK which deals with the politics of the matter, not the geography.

Aren't the Islands called the British Isles though? Geographically speaking.

That's beside my point any how. I think it is extremely pedantic to not allow a Golf open be called the British open if played in NI.

Orando Broom · 29-06-2011 05:04PM

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Why do we care so much about McDowell and McIlroy? They're NOT Irish, however much we pathetically want to claim them. I heard Rory McIlroy last week talking about Padraig Harrington, saying that hopefully it won't be too long before an Irish player wins a Major again. Clearly he DOES NOT see himself as representing Ireland, neither does McDowell. I don't get the sychophancy in the Irish media falling over these two. McIlroy will be representing the UK in the next Olympics yet I'm pretty certain that at the end of the year when RTE have their sports review of the year show McIlroy will be all over it like a rash. :rolleyes:

And the last time I checked Port Rush was part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. That's a political fact, not an opinion.
I don't see any reason why they shouldn't play the British Open there. It was played there before.

Isn't the reason because he cut his teeth as an amateur in the GUI?

It would be like claiming, say Alan Shearer, as 'one of our own' because he started his career in the LOI.

dsmythy · 29-06-2011 05:05PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Trying to get me involved in a debate on the national question by posting something pretty much akin to Thatcher saying that the north is "as British as Finchley" when you well know what will happen if I do.

National question? This is about a golf tournament called The Open Championship. It is administered by a ruling authority responsible for golf across the world bar the United States and Mexico.

Harry Angstrom · 29-06-2011 05:06PM

RichieC wrote: »

they're great golfers, the media tends to fawn over stars. welcome to earth.

I can understand that they're great golfers and I can apprecaite their talent but the Irish media seems to treat them as Irish. Did you hear Greg Allen from RTE interviewing McIlroy after he'd won the US Open? Allen sounded as if he was on the verge of tears ffs! It was pathetic. :rolleyes:

Orando Broom · 29-06-2011 05:06PM

What was the status of the Tour De France in 1998? I recall it being called, at the time, The Tour De Sorta France, But Also Ireland.

Seachmall · 29-06-2011 05:07PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Aren't the Islands called the British Isles though? Geographically speaking.

Yes, I was born on the British Isles but that doesn't make me British.

[Not that I'd particularly care if anyone called me British, and I couldn't give 2 shites where they play the golf.]

westies4ever · 29-06-2011 05:07PM

Dear lord not another Graeme McDowall/Rory McIlroy Irish/British thread

Yaawwwnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!

pickarooney · 29-06-2011 05:09PM

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

I can understand that they're great golfers and I can apprecaite their talent but the Irish media seems to treat them as Irish. Did you hear Greg Allen from RTE interviewing McIlroy after he'd won the US Open? Allen sounded as if he was on the verge of tears ffs! It was pathetic. :rolleyes:

Both have represented Ireland at international level before - it's not like they're claiming a Cypriot player as Irish or anything.

Orando Broom · 29-06-2011 05:13PM

pickarooney wrote: »

Both have represented Ireland at international level before - it's not like they're claiming a Cypriot player as Irish or anything.

Are you sure it wasn't the Union they represented and if I was Spanish but playing under the auspices of the GUI I'd represent Ireland?

It would be like Joseph N'Do (former Cameroonian International) playing for the Airtricity League 11. Not Irish but representing Ireland.

Fuhrer · 29-06-2011 05:19PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Yeah, whatever. You can get a British passport if you are from NI.

I can get a Croissant when I go to the coffee shop down stairs, it doesnt make it France.

super_furry · 29-06-2011 05:20PM

Christ, is this shiiite still rattling on?

pickarooney · 29-06-2011 05:28PM

Orando Broom wrote: »

Are you sure it wasn't the Union they represented and if I was Spanish but playing under the auspices of the GUI I'd represent Ireland?

It would be like Joseph N'Do (former Cameroonian International) playing for the Airtricity League 11. Not Irish but representing Ireland.

Not 100% sure but they played for Ireland at the World Cup in 2009 according to Wikipedia. I'm not sure if this is a revival of the old Dunhill Cup or something else.

Micky Dolenz · 29-06-2011 05:29PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

I can get a Croissant when I go to the coffee shop down stairs, it doesnt make it France.

I'll think you'll find obtaining a pastry and legal documents showing your identification and nationality are two completely different things entirely.

Really odd comparison.

Harry Angstrom · 29-06-2011 05:32PM

pickarooney wrote: »

Both have represented Ireland at international level before

It probably suited them to represent Ireland. Most of the English-born players in the Republic of Ireland squad would probably opt to play for England if given the choice but they know they've a better chance of being picked for Ireland.

LordSutch · 29-06-2011 05:39PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Since when is Co.Antrim in "Britain" ?

I was at British Superbikes a few years ago, and they were held at Mondello Park, which is in County Kildare, I was also at the Tour De France many years before that, and that was held here too !!!

Indeed, County Antrim is not in Britain, but then neither is Mondello Park, and come to think of it, this Republic is not part of France & yet the tour de france actually came through here (on Irish soil) :eek:

What any of this has to do with "The Open" is beyond me, because that't what it's called, and not the 'British Open' . . .

Graeme McDowell wants the "British" open played at Portrush, Co.Antrim - huh ?

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