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The 'Drug Pusher': An Urban Myth?

  • 28-06-2011 08:15PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    We all heard of the notorious 'drug pusher'. He hangs around outside schools and gives free drugs to children and then *bam* the children become addicted and Mr. Drug Pusher has a lifelong customer to feed off.

    Personally I think the Drug Pusher is an urban myth that is rolled out when people are looking for a scapegoat. Imo the issue is that people actually want drugs and therefore they will be supplied.

    Parents and the authorities like to construct the bogey man drug pusher for their own selfish reasons. Parents to deflect blame from their drug dabbling children and the authorities to keep the prohibition farce going.

    I can state categorically that I have never once been offered free drugs from a stranger nor do I know anyone that has.

    Have you ever been been the subject of or witnessed 'Drug Pushing'?

    (Not being offered - actual drug pushing for those who have difficulty understanding this OP)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I can state categorically that I have never once been offered free drugs from a stranger nor do I know anyone that has.

    Then you've lived a very sheltered life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I've lived in Tallaght all my life and I've never even been offered drugs that cost money by strangers, nevermind free ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    In the Q for the toilets in a nightclub got offered what I thought was coke, turned out to be ketamine. Lost use of legs just at the front door of the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    Been offered them loadsa times on the street,take a walk around Thomas Street/Christchurch or Talbot Street and you're almost guaranteed to be asked ''are ya lookin''.Been even offered some a few times while waiting for the bus home on Aston Quay.

    Been offered coke,speed and hash in clubs and pubs too.

    Used to see open dealing opposite the bus stop on Ballyfermot Road nearly every day when I was in college down there too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Speaking as secondary school student, I've never had drugs pushed on me, I've a plethora of friends I can just ring:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I've lived in Tallaght all my life and I've never even been offered drugs that cost money by strangers, nevermind free ones.

    Oooh... Southsider. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Then you've lived a very sheltered life.

    A poor snap judgement. Maybe you should consider asking it as a question?





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭RussellTuring


    We all heard of the notorious 'drug pusher'. He hangs around outside schools and gives free drugs to children and then *bam* the children become addicted and Mr. Drug Pusher has a lifelong customer to feed off.

    Personally I think the Drug Pusher is an urban myth that is rolled out when people are looking for a scapegoat. Imo the issue is that people actually want drugs and therefore they will be supplied.

    Parents and the authorities like to construct the bogey man drug pusher for their own selfish reasons. Parents to deflect blame from their drug dabbling children and the authorities to keep the prohibition farce going.

    I agree. People take drugs because they want to. Apart from forcibly injecting someone with a heroin-filled syringe, it is the individual's choice whether or not they take them. I've never been offered drugs by a stranger either, only people I know. If I were offered drugs by a stranger and decided to take them it would only be because I wanted to anyway and suddenly had the opportunity.

    Actually scratch that. I've been offered a few times, especially around Thomas St. and Talbot St. They probably weren't free trials, however, so my point stands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Been offered them loadsa times on the street

    Offered is not pushed. You might actually be looking for them after all.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Jeez, last time I heard about that story was in the 80's and I wasn't even alive!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    A poor snap judgement.
    Parents and the authorities like to construct the bogey man drug pusher for their own selfish reasons. Parents to deflect blame from their drug dabbling children and the authorities to keep the prohibition farce going.

    Touche.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I agree. People take drugs because they want to. Apart from forcibly injecting someone with a heroin-filled syringe, it is the individual's choice whether or not they take them. I've never been offered drugs by a stranger either, only people I know. If I were offered drugs by a stranger and decided to take them it would only be because I wanted to anyway and suddenly had the opportunity.

    So its not a stranger then at all, its your friend who is the drug pusher.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Offered is not pushed. You might actually be looking for them after all.

    Define the difference.

    By the sounds of things you are making out that a "drug pusher" is force feeding people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Been offered them loadsa times on the street,take a walk around Thomas Street/Christchurch or Talbot Street and you're almost guaranteed to be asked ''are ya lookin''.Been even offered some a few times while waiting for the bus home on Aston Quay.

    Been offered coke,speed and hash in clubs and pubs too.

    Used to see open dealing opposite the bus stop on Ballyfermot Road nearly every day when I was in college down there too.

    I worked in Ballyfermot for years then on O'Connell street. Never been offered anything at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Oooh... Southsider. :D

    I am from the posh part though in fairness, It's practically D4 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,228 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    The OP seems to be asking whether a dealer has offered you free drugs to get you hooked. OP it has never happened to me anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    I got offered coke in a gig in Dublin once.

    I refused but for some reason took his number anyway :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭Finnbar01


    I live in an area where drugs have been prevalent for years. I have never been approached by any drug dealers but I have been approached by people looking to buy drugs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    I see it everyday, House across the road from me is a sellers house,forever been raided and forever people calling in.never seen it been offered outside schools though,think that's a myth.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dallas Old Pussycat


    anyone got a link to alison's article on this :D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Never got offered them. Always had to go looking for them. I just wish I got some free samples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭EverEvolving


    I've never been offered free drugs, where do I sign up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭RussellTuring


    So its not a stranger then at all, its your friend who is the drug pusher.

    Yes. Inasmuch as offering me a point is pushing alcohol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    I went to secondary school in inner city Dublin 1, walked down to the bus through some of the worst areas every day and this never happened to me nor did I ever hear of it happening to anyone else.

    But it does happen:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Touche.

    What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    where are these people offering free drugs and how does one find them , ive only ever been asked do i want to buy drugs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    I think the term 'drug pusher' is misleading in the sense that it conjours images of people habging around offering random people drugs.

    I remember when I was around twenty I was in friend's house having a few cans. He had an older brother, about 10 yrs older than us, and he was there with his friend.

    His friend had some coke and was very eager to give us a line free. We took it and went to the pub feeling great, able to drink loads, full of confidence.

    I can look back now and realise that bloke was actually a drug pusher.
    His nasty little game was to 'introduce' us to coke, and then when we realised it was great, we would buy more. Luckily I didn't.

    But that is how they operate, give stuff out for free and rely on people coming back to pay for more...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Good shout actually. Nobody is actually coerced by dealers to start taking drugs, its mostly down to peer pressure. When their used to be drugs marches in my area, the people they targeted were the big time dealers that would supply the small time dealers with drugs. I always thought "Pushers" were the ones that got the drugs from the big time guys and passed them down to the small dealers. Living in an area with a fair bit of drugs, ive never been randomly offered drugs. Ive done a fair bit of drugs in my younger day but ive always had to look for them rather than being offered and if i was offered, it was from lads i know well who i would frequent custom. Drugs have never been "pushed" on me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭Finnbar01


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    I think the term 'drug pusher' is misleading in the sense that it conjours images of people habging around offering random people drugs.

    I remember when I was around twenty I was in friend's house having a few cans. He had an older brother, about 10 yrs older than us, and he was there with his friend.

    His friend had some coke and was very eager to give us a line free. We took it and went to the pub feeling great, able to drink loads, full of confidence.

    I can look back now and realise that bloke was actually a drug pusher.
    His nasty little game was to 'introduce' us to coke, and then when we realised it was great, we would buy more. Luckily I didn't.

    But that is how they operate, give stuff out for free and rely on people coming back to pay for more...


    I say more like it you were very eager to take it.

    You were twenty FFS.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Only time I was offered free drugs by a total stranger was when someone passed me a J at a gig in Belgium a few years back. I was 30 at the time so he was a little late if he thought he was gonna get me hooked!:pac:


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