hearts player is a sex offender

tallaghtmick · 26-06-2011 12:25PM #1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-13918842

Why have hearts kept him on?surely being a peado is enough for any club to get rid of a player.Not only does it bring bad publicity it also gives rival fans reason to abuse him if hes playing,also would you care if your club had a convicted sex offender playing?

flahavaj · 26-06-2011 01:08PM

The wording of the club's statement leads me to believe he had no idea he was talking to kids online and there was possibly some kind of set-up. The odd statement the club released earlier in the week leads me to believe there is something bigger going on in the background.

"In reaching this decision, the club accepted that there are sufficient mitigating circumstances that provide significant assurance that the player's conduct, no matter how distasteful, was the result of a grave error of judgement due to naivety and possible wrong outside influence rather than anything more sinister and it will not be repeated."

No club would knowingly keep a paedophile on its books.

Sasquatch76 · 26-06-2011 01:13PM

flahavaj wrote: »

The wording of the club's statement leads me to believe he had no idea he was talking to kids online and there was possibly some kind of set-up. The odd statement the club released earlier in the week leads me to believe there is something bigger going on in the background.

No club would knowingly keep a paedophile on its books.

The courts didn't seem to think there were mitigating circumstances. If he was "set up" by external forces, why did he plead guilty? Should be sacked, end of.

killwill · 26-06-2011 01:13PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-13918842

Why have hearts kept him on?surely being a peado is enough for any club to get rid of a player.Not only does it bring bad publicity it also gives rival fans reason to abuse him if hes playing,also would you care if your club had a convicted sex offender playing?

While having a "paedo" on your books, as you called him, is not ideal, he is judged on his footballing ability for the club I would imagine.

Also it sounds like he was in contact with someone who was borderline the legal age.

BTW I am not condoning anything that this player has done, just we don't really know ALL the facts so should not judge.

flahavaj · 26-06-2011 01:19PM

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

The courts didn't seem to think there were mitigating circumstances. If he was "set up" by external forces, why did he plead guilty? Should be sacked, end of.

I have no idea, I'm just giving my opinion based on the little evidence we have in front of us. As I said if there was any question he was a pervert and simply hadn't been unlucky then I'm sure the club would have gotten rid ASAP.

Sasquatch76 · 26-06-2011 01:21PM

flahavaj wrote: »

I have no idea, I'm just giving my opinion based on the little evidence we have in front of us. As I said if there was any question he was a pervert and simply hadn't been unlucky then I'm sure the club would have gotten rid ASAP.

I'd like to agree, but given the club's other recent official statement, it's hard to know what they're thinking.

flahavaj · 26-06-2011 01:22PM

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

I'd like to agree, but given the club's other recent official statement, it's hard to know what they're thinking.

Aye, strange happenings seem to be afoot at the club.

HarryPotter41 · 26-06-2011 01:23PM

killwill wrote: »

While having a "paedo" on your books, as you called him, is not ideal, he is judged on his footballing ability for the club I would imagine.

Also it sounds like he was in contact with someone who was borderline the legal age.

BTW I am not condoning anything that this player has done, just we don't really know ALL the facts so should not judge.

12 and 14 is not really borderline legal age

The links might give more insight into what actually happened and partly explain the Hearts reaction
http://www.scotsman.com/news/Hearts39-Craig-Thomson-guilty-of.6786618.jp
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/20110624/hearts-statement_2241384_2381659

TwistsAndTurns · 26-06-2011 01:33PM

Mothers statement.

Thomson was a close family friend.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sunday-mail/2011/06/26/victim-s-mum-reveals-full-horror-of-hearts-star-craig-thomson-s-depravity-86908-23228208/

flahavaj · 26-06-2011 01:39PM

Curiouser and curiouser.

HarryPotter41 · 26-06-2011 01:43PM

flahavaj wrote: »

Curiouser and curiouser.

Indeed, the club statement is interesting but I doubt the mafia managed to get two children that age to play along with him perving on them. Him staying in football is stupid, his life is going to be hell, and in scottish football especially I imagine at some point he will get the s***e kicked out of him.

TwistsAndTurns · 26-06-2011 02:11PM

I would presume the other players with family will find it hard to play with him.

baldbear · 26-06-2011 02:26PM

He knew the girl was 13 and sent her pictures of his mickey and he was trying to arrange to have sex with her or am i missing something? He has to get the sack. His team mates will disown him.

HarryPotter41 · 26-06-2011 02:26PM

TwistsAndTurns wrote: »

I would presume the other players with family will find it hard to play with him.

I would say so, will make for a dreadful dressing room atmosphere. Its a strange one, people make mistakes but this seems to have been too sustained to be a mistake, seems very predatory.

flahavaj · 26-06-2011 02:40PM

I still maintain there is more to this than meets the eye. If the facts as presented above, with him sexually harrassing a 13 year old over the internet, while in full knowledge of her age are indeed true then fair enough, getting rid is a no-brainer. But the fact that this hasn't happeneed and the other statement from the club lead me to believe it isn't as black and white as that.

killwill · 26-06-2011 02:48PM

For the record, after reading more about this incident, I totally change my view. I would not be able to sit in the same dreesing room or celebrate a win with a man like that.

26-06-2011 03:00PM

Whats the story with the Hearts statement, it doesnt make sense.Its as if it was written by someone with poor English, how can a professional club release that?

killwill · 26-06-2011 03:16PM

Alayna Puny Stringer wrote: »

Whats the story with the Hearts statement, it doesnt make sense.Its as if it was written by someone with poor English, how can a professional club release that?

It was a politician's statement, releasing a statement about a dodgy subject, without mentioning anything about said subject!!!

Jelle1880 · 26-06-2011 03:23PM

I was written by their owner I think, Romanov.

Can't believe he hasn't been sacked.

tallaghtmick · 26-06-2011 03:32PM

flahavaj wrote: »

I still maintain there is more to this than meets the eye. If the facts as presented above, with him sexually harrassing a 13 year old over the internet, while in full knowledge of her age are indeed true then fair enough, getting rid is a no-brainer. But the fact that this hasn't happeneed and the other statement from the club lead me to believe it isn't as black and white as that.

when someone pleads guilty and judge finds him to be guilty enough to be put on the register its as plain as day.

flahavaj · 26-06-2011 03:58PM

tallaghtmick wrote: »

when someone pleads guilty and judge finds him to be guilty enough to be put on the register its as plain as day.

If you actually read the very post you quoted you'd see that if thats the case then he should be gotten rid of.

I think there is more to this story than meets the eye though. What that is, I'm not sure yet, but that very strange club statement from a few days ago, coupled to this suggests to me this isn't the last we have heard of Hearts and their off-pitch shennanigans this season.

HarryPotter41 · 26-06-2011 04:01PM

flahavaj wrote: »

If you actually read the very post you quoted you'd see that if thats the case then he should be gotten rid of.

I think there is more to this story than meets the eye though. What that is, I'm not sure yet, but that very strange club statement from a few days ago, coupled to this suggests to me this isn't the last we have heard of Hearts and their off-pitch shennanigans this season.

Whatever else is behind the scenes, he has admitted the offence, knowingly chased the two girls. There is no defence for him continuing playing at the club.

tallaghtmick · 26-06-2011 04:01PM

flahavaj wrote: »

If you actually read the very post you quoted you'd see that if thats the case then he should be gotten rid of.

I think there is more to this story than meets the eye though. What that is, I'm not sure yet, but that very strange club statement from a few days ago, coupled to this suggests to me this isn't the last we have heard of Hearts and their off-pitch shennanigans this season.

of course every club is gonna come out and defend a player,sure romanov himself is an absolute nutjob so no surprises there that the player is being defended.

flahavaj · 26-06-2011 04:05PM

HarryPotter41 wrote: »

Whatever else is behind the scenes, he has admitted the offence, knowingly chased the two girls. There is no defence for him continuing playing at the club.

If thats what emerged in court then I agree 100%.

HarryPotter41 · 26-06-2011 04:08PM

flahavaj wrote: »

If thats what emerged in court then I agree 100%.

Read the link on my previous post in relation to the case

Dave! · 26-06-2011 04:31PM

He was friends with them on Facebewk, and was interacting with one of them by webcam, so he knew their age.

Therefore anything sexual at all is reprehensible, and he should be sacked.

UglyBolloxFace · 26-06-2011 08:07PM

flahavaj wrote: »

I still maintain there is more to this than meets the eye. If the facts as presented above, with him sexually harrassing a 13 year old over the internet, while in full knowledge of her age are indeed true then fair enough, getting rid is a no-brainer. But the fact that this hasn't happeneed and the other statement from the club lead me to believe it isn't as black and white as that.

You appear to be looking for some sort of conspiracy or excuse where there isn't one to be found at all.

Here is why he has not been sacked:

Thomson has been on the books of Hearts since he was a kid. This means they have pumped plenty of time and effort into his development. And he is actually a good player, so they're not just going to tear up his contract.

If they sacked him, what would the Club get out of it? Nothing, absolutely nothing. They would be at a loss after the resources they've spent on him. So to put it bluntly, this decision is about money and only money, nothing else.

People seem to be forgetting that he has actually been convicted - he has been fined and put on the Sexual Offender's List for 5 years. He should be ashamed of himself and have the good grace to at least attempt to tender his resignation - how any of the other players can continue to share a dressing room with him is beyond me.

The Davestator · 26-06-2011 08:11PM

Agree with the a above. He's been found guilty and received his punishment. The club can decide to keep him or sack him but as above has said, theyve spent a lot on his development.

Guy:Incognito · 26-06-2011 08:40PM

Have the groups like the one represented by the Scottish woman thats been all over the radio to protested about everyone else thats been put on the sex offenders register and demanded they be sacked too? Or just this one cos he's a footballer?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 26-06-2011 08:57PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Have the groups like the one represented by the Scottish woman thats been all over the radio to protested about everyone else thats been put on the sex offenders register and demanded they be sacked too? Or just this one cos he's a footballer?

To be fair its probably because he is a footballer that its so prominent.
He is a footballer and therefore open to scrutiny he also will attract daft young lassies and if he had a brain and not a fascination with young females then he wouldn't be in this bother the guy will cop it big time at every ground he plays at

Even on the Hearts forums the majority seen to favour him getting sacked

tallaghtmick · 26-06-2011 09:18PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Even on the Hearts forums the majority seen to favour him getting sacked

The same came from a prominent politician and hearts fan,he's at a loss as to why hearts have kept him on.

hearts player is a sex offender

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