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Rise of the Planet of the Apes [** SPOILERS FROM POST 185 ONWARD **]

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  • #32
    tony1kenobi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    Mr E wrote: »
    That looks really good actually.

    I'd put money on the very last shot of the movie
    having an ape speaking a sentence in english.

    Didn't Oliver Stone do that in W?


  • #33
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    tony1kenobi wrote: »
    Didn't Oliver Stone do that in W?

    Yahtzee!!


  • #34
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    The CGI marauding apes don't look very impressive...


  • #35
    niallon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭niallon


    I'm not a huge fan of the Apes series in general but even I can see that this is simply a stand alone movie hoping that the franchise name will somehow help it out/they are trying to avoid complete plagiarism.

    This is a movie about uber intelligent apes that rise up against their masters. It's Deep Blue Sea with primates. I guess that's really the only way an Apes origins movie could ever go but if that is the case then I'd rather have never seen it made.

    Don't get me wrong, it looks good alright but really looks more like a piggy back on the Apes series rather than a continuation/reboot.


  • #36
    indough
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    i dont really see why people are commenting about it having no real relation to the original series. the only real difference i see here from conquest of the planet of the apes is that of the origin of the apes intelligence

    i dont think it would have been the best move to keep to the original story too strictly as they didnt really have the option of going with the causality loop angle. for one thing it would have required either another movie set in the future in order to set up one based in the present day/near future, or else had some relation to the burton version which was muck in almost everbodys opinion.


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  • #37
    InchicoreDude
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭InchicoreDude


    Its been a long time since I have seen the original series. But wasnt the revelation that the apes there evolved from present day humans? Therefore, what we see in this movie isnt in line with that as we see that present day apes get their intelligence from a super drug, rather than it happen through evolution...


  • #38
    iMax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭iMax


    InchicoreDude wrote: »
    Its been a long time since I have seen the original series. But wasnt the revelation that the apes there evolved from present day humans? Therefore, what we see in this movie isnt in line with that as we see that present day apes get their intelligence from a super drug, rather than it happen through evolution...

    It's creating a new origins movie, it doesn't tie in at all with the original.

    Gonna put this in spoilers for those who haven't seen the originals (but should).
    In the first film, the astraunouts arrive on the planet which they discover at the end to be earth of the future.

    In the second folm, another ship is sent looking for the original crew, the less said about this movie, the better, it's the weakest of the series.

    The third film has the original spaceship return to earth, water landed at a beach in Los Angeles & intercepted by the army, then the crew remove their helmets it turn out they are the three chimps Corneleous, Zira & Dr. Milo who have come back to earth of the past. This is critical for the film, because it is their child (C&Z's) Cesear, who will be born in this movie who is the origin of the ape uprising. This film was the cheapest to produce as it was shot in modern day & also grossed the highest.

    The fourth & fifth establish the ape uprising & subsequent war which brings us neatly to the first movie again.

    IMO the third film is the most enjoyable, stands alone & is possibly the most important one as it gives the five films their origin.

    They possibly should have started with this film to reboot the series & then filmed them in the order of 3,4,5,1 (forget 2).


  • #39
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Galvasean wrote: »
    The CGI marauding apes don't look very impressive...

    I quite like the shot at the end with the ape who has obvious intelligence in its eyes, its really well done.


  • #40
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    krudler wrote: »
    I quite like the shot at the end with the ape who has obvious intelligence in its eyes, its really well done.

    He looks very good. He's probably the main ape. By 'marauding apes' I meant the ones you see wrecking the city (mostly gorillas). They look a bit cartoony.


  • #41
    Sad Professor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,712 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Is that Serkis playing the intelligent ape?


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  • #42
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Galvasean wrote: »
    He looks very good. He's probably the main ape. By 'marauding apes' I meant the ones you see wrecking the city (mostly gorillas). They look a bit cartoony.

    Hope its unfinished cgi, the gorilla jumping towards the helicopter looked a bit fake alright, although its Weta so they've had success with big cgi apes in the past :pac:


  • #43
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Is that Serkis playing the intelligent ape?
    I believe so: so that's Andy Serkis playing an CGI ape, which will be generated by Weta workshop. Riiiiight ...

    -> Open KingKong.3ds
    -> Save As... PlanetApes.3ds
    -> Job Done!


  • #44
    constitutionus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    krudler wrote: »
    I quite like the shot at the end with the ape who has obvious intelligence in its eyes, its really well done.

    is it just me or was there a slight smirk right at the end ?

    :)


  • #45
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,733 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    constitutionus wrote: »
    is it just me or was there a slight smirk right at the end ?

    :)

    the classic roddy mcdowell smirk


  • #46
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFWXfYf2pmA


    New Trailer


  • #47
    thorbarry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭thorbarry


    All ready posted dude, people have been talking about it.

    It looks quite good.


  • #48
    Sasquatch76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Sasquatch76


    New trailer out.


  • #49
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Better trailer than the 1st one but I'm underwhelmed with the CGI, I mean, they look good but the faces are still too cartoony.

    Not really hyped about this film, to be honest. Not saying it'll be shìte but the marketing is doing nothing for me.


  • #50
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,872 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Honestly think this film looks beyond dreadful. Even the much heralded apes look pretty dodgy (in trailer one anyway). I'd be very surprised if this surprises :P


  • #51
    aidan_walsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    New UK trailer, lots of new footage greatly expanding on what we have seen already.

    I do think this could be a lot of fun.


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  • #52
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    aidan_walsh wrote: »
    New UK trailer, lots of new footage greatly expanding on what we have seen already.

    I do think this could be a lot of fun.


    jesus that ruins the entire film, dont watch! basically shows in chronological order the whole movie in 3 mins


  • #53
    BlitzKrieg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    actually it made me want to see it.

    I had hated everything about this film that was released up until the trailer. Conquest of the planet of the apes is one of my favourite in the series and the character of Ceaser a clever hotpot of emotions and loyalty (raised by humans, leader of apes)

    The early trailers seemed to cut all of this (including him being identified as Ceaser) and really made the film feel isolated to the area around a research lab (like Hollow man) but the new trailer shows alot of common elements with conquest including probably its ending sequence.

    Though I am still somewhat :( over the no speaking apes aspect. I liked the talking apes aspect of it.


  • #54
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    actually it made me want to see it.

    I had hated everything about this film that was released up until the trailer. Conquest of the planet of the apes is one of my favourite in the series and the character of Ceaser a clever hotpot of emotions and loyalty (raised by humans, leader of apes)

    The early trailers seemed to cut all of this (including him being identified as Ceaser) and really made the film feel isolated to the area around a research lab (like Hollow man) but the new trailer shows alot of common elements with conquest including probably its ending sequence.

    Though I am still somewhat :( over the no speaking apes aspect. I liked the talking apes aspect of it.

    Bet the final shot will be an ape talking


  • #55
    BlitzKrieg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    sorry it cant be *just talking* it needs to be equivilent to this:
    Where there is fire, there is smoke. And in that smoke, from this day forward, my people will crouch, and conspire, and plot, and plan for the inevitable day of Man's downfall. The day when he finally and self-destructively turns his weapons against his own kind. The day of the writing in the sky, when your cities lie buried under radioactive rubble! When the sea is a dead sea, and the land is a wasteland out of which I will lead my people from their captivity! And we will build our own cities, in which there will be no place for humans except to serve our ends! And we shall found our own armies, our own religion, our own dynasty! And that day is upon you NOW!"

    sadly couldnt find a youtube video of the speech :(


  • #56
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    sorry it cant be *just talking* it needs to be equivilent to this:



    sadly couldnt find a youtube video of the speech :(

    I'll settle for "so you finally...made...a...monkey...out...of...meeee!"


  • #57
    Handsome Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    aidan_walsh wrote: »
    New UK trailer, lots of new footage greatly expanding on what we have seen already.

    I do think this could be a lot of fun.

    Looking good, the first half of the trailer up until
    Ceaser lashing out to protect Lithgow's character
    was actually pretty class looking.


  • #58
    PunkFreud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭PunkFreud


    Hmmmm... the CGI looks terrible (by today's standards) in that trailer. I know, I shouldn't be looking at CGI and judging a movie on it, but (as has been said) it's very cartoony looking.

    That said, it looks like a decent movie (at best). I like the homages to the original film in the trailer. And with Andy Serkis as Caesar, what could go wrong?


  • #59
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Jesus, yeah that's is definitely one spoiler'y trailer right there. Bar seeing the actual last scene & how it all pans out when
    the apes go ape in Sanfran
    , I don't feel the need to go see this movie now. Score! Now that's what I call a saving.

    Probably just as well - not even the promise of John Lithgow could save this movie from the flood of apathy this movie engenders in me. A pretty pointless inclusion in a franchise nobody really cares about. The "of the Apes" series has had its day, don't see the point in bringing it back (again)


  • #60
    KerranJast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭KerranJast


    The whole premise of the film seems badly thought out. Unless the apes start breeding like rabbits us barbarous humans with a gun on every second block (in the US anyway) would come out on top.
    Are the armed forces not supposed to notice a load of apes running around major cities? :confused:


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  • #61
    Savman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Felt like I just watched the whole movie in 2mins :D

    This might be a lol-fest of cheesiness and bad effects intertwined with a love story, seeing as Caesar leads the revolution and lands all the chicks and proceeds to rub their faces erotically.

    Ape porn ftw.


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