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Woman wins $95m in Sexual Harassment case

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    have to say i'm a little bit on sunshines side here. how exactly do you expose a womans breasts, hold her down and masturbate on her:confused:.

    i've found from experience these things take a lot of time and effort and normally some form of participation by the person you are masturbating on...

    the flowers, chocolates and clothes too :confused:. hardly the actions of a serial rapist. me thinks there was more to this story than the court was told...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    This same article was in the mail last week with a pic of her in a slutty halloween costume taken from her MySpace page 3 years after. So she was obviously ok....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Overheal wrote: »
    I think she already stated she wants to put some of the money to a relevant charity or association to deal with harassment in the workplace. She won't hang onto it all.
    I would hope so, and if this is the case, I would consider justice done.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    We are very, very happy
    I should think so :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭NomdePlume


    Sunshine! wrote: »
    As for the masturbating on her breasts, to pin her down and play with himself he'd in all likelihood would have to sit on her crotch, rip her clothes open if they weren't already, pin her hands together with one hand and pleasure himself with the other free hand. If there was any kind of a struggle and she was sincere about making this stop, she would've gone to the cops at that point, not the sexual harrassment hotline.

    I could be entirely wrong, but it's just not adding up for me.

    You can make a person "co-operate" by threatening them, you know. Lie there and shut up or I'll kick your head in / hurt your family, etc.

    Accepting gifts does not mean you are inviting/enjoying an assault, either, in any way.

    Depressing how quick people are to get suspicious of her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    NomdePlume wrote: »
    Accepting gifts does not mean you are inviting/enjoying an assault, either, in any way.

    Absolutely not but it's not exactly a strong way of saying "no".

    These cases can be extremely complicated, she may not have wanted to do these things and he may not have realized that because she never made it clear to him. She felt coerced because he was the boss, he thought she was up for it because she seemed to be. Relationships in the military are banned for this very reason.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Seachmall wrote: »
    he thought she was up for it because she seemed to be.
    "She accepted my gifts, she clearly wants me to rip her top open and **** all over her"

    Makes sense...

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Sunshine! wrote: »
    Did she happily wear and eat these? Did she stop working on the first instance? I reckon there's more to it than we're seeing, that they had a nice little relationship and he wouldn't leave his wife for her or something, so she went sour and THEN reported it.

    Where does it say she accepted the gifts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    "She accepted my gifts, she clearly wants me to rip her top open and **** all over her"

    Makes sense...

    No. more like he comes onto her and she responds positively because she feels she'd lose her job if she didn't. He thinks she's up for it, she feels coerced.

    It happens all the time. We don't know the details of the case but it could've happened here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭NomdePlume


    Seachmall wrote: »
    No. more like he comes onto her and she responds positively because she feels she'd lose her job if she didn't. He thinks she's up for it, she feels coerced.

    It happens all the time. We don't know the details of the case but it could've happened here.

    So... he placed his penis on top of her head as a "come on"? :rolleyes:

    It was a way to humiliate and degrade her, obviously. Nothing to do with crossed wires or thinking she likes him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    NomdePlume wrote: »
    So... he placed his penis on top of her head as a "come on"? :rolleyes:
    No. He may have thought they were already in a relationship.
    It was a way to humiliate and degrade her, obviously. Nothing to do with crossed wires or thinking she likes him.
    I'm not denying he's a creep, the question is whether or not he was intentionally harassing her or if he was just an idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭Elmidena


    Where does it say she accepted the gifts?
    Think you'll find m'dear that I asked questions, I didn't give any indication of the answer. It DIDN'T say that, which is why I asked DID she?
    NomdePlume: You can make a person "co-operate" by threatening them, you know. Lie there and shut up or I'll kick your head in / hurt your family, etc.

    Accepting gifts does not mean you are inviting/enjoying an assault, either, in any way.

    Depressing how quick people are to get suspicious of her.

    I am quite familiar with the workings of emotional abuse. I was pointing out that there's a lot of answers that would affect a court outcome omitted in the information we've learned, and hopefully that is included in relevant statements. When the overall sum is a sickening multimillion figure, answers should not be omitted.

    Sexual assault is a very real, very frightening occurance, but I am not losing sight of "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" at the same time. I am not calling her a liar, I am pointing out the fundamental ignorances that are there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭NomdePlume


    Seachmall wrote: »
    I'm not denying he's a creep, the question is whether or not he was intentionally harassing her or if he was just an idiot.

    I'm sure he was both.


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