House break in - No police response

OutlawPete · 11-06-2011 03:15AM

Be careful when you phone the Guards with what information you give them. Last year I phoned them when my neighbours door got kicked in at a bunch of lads where threatening the couple in the house. These lads are well know thugs, regularly involved in shootings and two of them have been murdered.

Guards come up and they start arguing with the lads who are denying everything and so one Guard radios in to the station, right in front of them as says: "Could you give me a description of the man, that the witness seen kick the door in" and the despatch girl says: "It was the man living in the house next door that phoned it in, knock in there and ask him to give you a description" :eek:

/I am now in a witness protection programme.

11-06-2011 05:17AM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

No, you see first, you get burgled, then after they've gone, well gone,the police come and then, well that's it, you don't hear from them again, if you're lucky you might get a look into that type message that usually comes to nothing

This is exactly what happened me... Burgled with a knife, a hurl, and a breadboard with nails. The guards don't arrive for 35 mins or so.. 5 mins after the scum had left. They barely believed us even though the door was kicked in.

****.

Feelgood · 11-06-2011 06:09AM

Heres your police response, sincere apologies about the delay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1c7GkzRQQ

Son Of A Vidic · 11-06-2011 09:39AM

OP - Try driving a cop car after you've ate a box of doughnuts, it's not easy is all I'm saying.

hondasam · 11-06-2011 09:46AM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

OP - Try driving a cop car after you've ate a box of doughnuts, it's not easy is all I'm saying.

doughnuts is so old, its snack box now.

Bosco boy · 11-06-2011 10:10AM

I can't understand why someone wouldn't get back on the phone and asK where the fcuk are ye? It's as if they like the value they
get out of being able to say they didn't turn up, I've often been in a patrol car that was the only car in the district, you get a call to a fatal accident or a sudden death and everything else is put on hold because you simply have to remain with that call. There will be every effort made to get another district to do the call but they are up to their eyeballs as well, get used to it folks as resources dwindle.

hondasam · 11-06-2011 10:16AM

Bosco boy wrote: »

I can't understand why someone wouldn't get back on the phone and asK where the fcuk are ye? It's as if they like the value they
get out of being able to say they didn't turn up, I've often been in a patrol car that was the only car in the district, you get a call to a fatal accident or a sudden death and everything else is put on hold because you simply have to remain with that call. There will be every effort made to get another district to do the call but they are up to their eyeballs as well, get used to it folks as resources dwindle.

It would seem like the logical thing to do but if the op done that we would not have this lovely garda bashing thread.

How Strange · 11-06-2011 10:20AM

Similar thing happened to mr years ago. A guy tried to break the window to my bedroom in a ground floor apartment. He was out of his mind drunk and thought he lived there. Rang the gardai 3 times in half an hour and said I was a woman on my own and a guy was trying to break in. They never showed up.

Saw 3 kids locked into a car on a freezing cold night while parents were in the pub. Me and a few other concerned paserbys rang the gardai as there was a very distressed toddler in the car. We told them the parents were in the pub. There were about 5 calls in an hour and guess what-they never came. Parents came out if the pub steaming drunk and drove home.

Padraig Mor · 11-06-2011 10:32AM

hondasam wrote: »

It would seem like the logical thing to do but if the op done that we would not have this lovely garda bashing thread.

Surely apprehending criminals who are CURRENTLY in the process of committing a crime and may or may not injure or worse the householders should take priority over virtually any other duty?

Or could it be that it's just EASIER to deal with a burglary after the scum have left?

Terrontress · 11-06-2011 10:33AM

I once believed I was witnessing a child abduction at Charlotte's Quay at Ringsend. There was a kid struggling to get away from a dodgy looking guy who was holding on to him while the kid cried. I could open a window to shout but not get there quickly so I phoned 999. After I told the guards I told the guy that they were on their way.

It transpired that the adult owned a boat and had caught a load of kids trashing it and the child was one of them. He was glad I had called the guards. So I decided to just keep an eye and await the Gardai. Once the kid calmed down the man didn't take him anywhere, just held him there.

In spite of me phoning in what I told them was a child abduction, and my inability to intervene, it took 1h 10m for Gardai to arrive!

swingking · 11-06-2011 10:38AM

Sure the gardai have more important things to be doing like checking peoples road tax :rolleyes:

El Weirdo · 11-06-2011 10:43AM

Crime.ie wrote: »

Another Options is to put a panic alarm beside the bed and get your alarm monitor by a reputable company that have been granted a PSA(Private Security Authority).

What Happens Here:
Press the Panic Button

Sends Signal to Control Room

Control Room calls garda control

Garda control issue a panic alarm to the local station

I have yet to see this type of procedure fail and is quite quick given the amount of steps all done in under a minute.

I'm sorry, but are you saying that people who can afford to pay for such a service (I presume that this doesn't come cheap), are provided with a more efficient policing service?

I don't like the sound of that one bit.

Bosco boy · 11-06-2011 10:51AM

swingking wrote: »

Sure the gardai have more important things to be doing like checking peoples road tax :rolleyes:

Jesus! I never heard that one before, well done

weldoninhio · 11-06-2011 10:55AM

Didn't you get the memo?? The police are no longer dealing with crimes. from now on they will be a revenue collecting service for the govt. They are in the process of changing the motto To Protect and Serve, from now on it'll be To Collect and Serve Fixed Fine Notices.

In my town, the local scout den is directly across the road from the Garda Station, in the entrance to a wooded area. Teenagers etc gather here to drink, do drugs, and whatever else teenagers do. Recently a younger group of cubs (7-12yos) were in the den and the youths outside were making noise, kicking footballs against the windows etc. The scout master asked them if they wouldn't mind moving to the side of the building because they were scaring the kids. The teenagers told him to fcuk off, or they would burn down the building with him and the kids inside it. The scout leader called the police, but was told there was nothing they could do.

So being proactive, he decided to get evidence on them, thinking this would give the gardai the power to do something (i.e. it wouldn't just be his word against theirs) so he took pictures of them causing damage etc. Again was told nothing we can do and warned that if he continued taking photos of young boys they might report him and he would be in trouble!!!!

Bosco boy · 11-06-2011 10:57AM

Crime.ie wrote: »

Another Options is to put a panic alarm beside the bed and get your alarm monitor by a reputable company that have been granted a PSA(Private Security Authority).

What Happens Here:
Press the Panic Button

Sends Signal to Control Room

Control Room calls garda control

Garda control issue a panic alarm to the local station

I have yet to see this type of procedure fail and is quite quick given the amount of steps all done in under a minute.

They get the same response as the person who calls direct, if the resources are there to do the call they do it, but fine if you have money to burn!

DanTheMan91 · 11-06-2011 11:01AM

I lost faith in them a few years ago when I was verbally abused by a woman guard, she screamed at me for about 2 minutes straight, while I stood there shocked and slightly terrified.
If there ever was a robbery at my house, it would not be the guards I would be phoning.

Bosco boy · 11-06-2011 11:06AM

DanTheMan91 wrote: »

I lost faith in them a few years ago when I was verbally abused by a woman guard, she screamed at me for about 2 minutes straight, while I stood there shocked and slightly terrified.
If there ever was a robbery at my house, it would not be the guards I would be phoning.

She just randomly walked up to you and did this? Wow!

irishgeo · 11-06-2011 11:09AM

tell them you work in a bank and you think its a tiger kinapping they be round in a second.

my mate told me this story, his sister used to own a house in my estate, her neighbours house was broken into a week or 2 before she rang the local station to say there was 2 fellas in car outside her house acting suspiciously, Sorry, We have no car available was the response, she rings back the husband and explains this, he ringsthe station back and says he " if you have no car available , ill go up myself so and there might be trouble, the garda car with flashing lights was out the road ahead of him.

front line gardai might be only doing their job and i know a few myself but i went to the local station to get the passport form stamped, i counted 6 gardai sat in behind the public window area. 1 on public window duty, 1 answering the phone , 2 traffic core members from the his vis jackets they were wearing and 2 others gardai drinking tea.

in this an age should gardai really be stamping forms etc?

why cant the garda reserve be put in charge of the public desk,stamping forms and answering the phones and let the gardai with arrest powers be out on the street why not get the reserve garda to escort the arrested person back to the station instead of the full garda, leave him on the street to arrest more people. We could also get the to garda reserve to drive the garda van with the arrested person back to the station as the arresting has already been done. i should write to the minister for justice with these suggestions!

from watching police camera action it seems to work rather different in england, you see some officers dont always go back with the arrested person and pass them off to the mobile police van, also they seem to have a desk sergeant who books the arrested person in.

cursai · 11-06-2011 11:10AM

DanTheMan91 wrote: »

I lost faith in them a few years ago when I was verbally abused by a woman guard, she screamed at me for about 2 minutes straight, while I stood there shocked and slightly terrified.
If there ever was a robbery at my house, it would not be the guards I would be phoning.

Its a common occurrence for a guard to JUST walk up to you and start yelling for NO reason AT all!

spurious · 11-06-2011 11:12AM

Much as I'd love to join in the Garda knocking, can anyone who has knowledge of the workings of the service explain why exactly they don't have civilians dealing with the routine paperwork?

DanTheMan91 · 11-06-2011 11:18AM

Bosco boy wrote: »

She just randomly walked up to you and did this? Wow!

Obviously not, I was walking home from work, which is a 5 minute walk from my house. There was a group of scumbags messing around at the top of the road in between my house and work, they ran as soon as they spotted the guards come around the corner. I was on my phone talking to my brother, when the guard pulled across to the wrong side of the road and screamed at me to "put down the f**king phone", I did, I tried to explain that I was just walking home from work, while the woman guard competely lost the plot, screaming at me that I was on the phone to the scumbags because I was friends with them and I wanted to meet up with them or something. I opened up my jumper to show her my work uniform, asked her to go to my workplace and ask if I had been in work since 9.30 that morning, as soon as she realised she was in the wrong she ordered my to "head on home fast", got back into her car and drove off. Not even an apology for accusing me and swearing at me in the wrong.

Now I know that Guards have a tough job dealing with scumbags, but that is no way to speak to any person, especially a 16 year old walking home from work.

DanTheMan91 · 11-06-2011 11:22AM

I have also witnessed Gurdai hitting and kicking a person that had arressted while he was handcuffed on the ground, you guys may not believe or want to believe that, but I watched as his head bounced off the ground from the force of the kicks to his body. Now maybe he committed a serious crime just 5 minutes beforehand, but there was no way he deserved the beating I witnessed him recieve. Members of the public tried to step in, but the Guardai told them to back off or they too could be arressted.

Bosco boy · 11-06-2011 11:29AM

Maybe she thought you were lying when you said you had a job! Fair play to you to be working at 16, there are rude people in all jobs, if all the posters here revealed their professions there wouldn't be one where someone else couldn't tell a story of how the same profession had poor standards, it's a fact of life unfortunatly! Good and bad in all walks of life, all classes and all professions!

Gunmonkey · 11-06-2011 11:30AM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Surely apprehending criminals who are CURRENTLY in the process of committing a crime and may or may not injure or worse the householders should take priority over virtually any other duty?

Or could it be that it's just EASIER to deal with a burglary after the scum have left?

It probably is, the Guards dont know much of the situtation. Are they armed? How many? No Guard wants to wander in and then get stabbed or such just to protect some feckers TV.....sure cant they buy another one after.

And even if the burglars arent armed, if they get violent at all and the Guard grabs their wrist to stop them punching them, well sure its a call up to the Super the next to answer claims of tying up several innocent men and beating them with a frozen dog or something, and ya cant argue because that would be de Guards protecting each other by ignoring the facts. Thats probably gonna be a suspension and having the papers claim your a monster and should be sent for 27 consecutive life sentances, and if not then theres gonna be dozens more "Ah, its a bloody 2 tier system: one for de Guards and another for the rest of us, I'd be serving life if I did that, not let off..." threads clogging up AH.

spurious wrote: »

Much as I'd love to join in the Garda knocking, can anyone who has knowledge of the workings of the service explain why exactly they don't have civilians dealing with the routine paperwork?

Not sure but I think theres some law that says all criminal activities ahve to be logged and processed by a member of the Gardaí. Only alternative is hiring more public servants, but thats a discussion for another 20 or 30 threads in AH :rolleyes:

ShooterSF · 11-06-2011 11:30AM

Bosco boy wrote: »

I can't understand why someone wouldn't get back on the phone and asK where the fcuk are ye? It's as if they like the value they
get out of being able to say they didn't turn up, I've often been in a patrol car that was the only car in the district, you get a call to a fatal accident or a sudden death and everything else is put on hold because you simply have to remain with that call. There will be every effort made to get another district to do the call but they are up to their eyeballs as well, get used to it folks as resources dwindle.

It's a catch 22 isn't it. After the burglars have left it's not gonna do much good so either you get an apology and the guards reassess their situation so it doesn't occur again or you get a stressed out guard annoyed by asking "where the fcuk are ye" and lessen the chance they may help you at a later date.

hondasam · 11-06-2011 11:32AM

Bosco boy wrote: »

Maybe she though you were lying when you said you had a job! Fair play to you to be working at 16, there are rude people in all jobs, if all the posters here revealed their professions there wouldn't be one where someone else couldn't tell a story of how the same profession had poor standards, it's a fact of life unfortunatly! Good and bad in all walks of life, all classes and all professions!

I hope you are not in work now on boards & facebook, drinking coffee etc:D

Skinfull · 11-06-2011 11:35AM

Maybe it was the Gardaí you cared of when you opened the window. :eek:

Something similar to this happened to me when I lived in blanch about 10 years ago. Guy was banging on my front door, shirtless, covered in blood with a huge butchers knife...called the gardai and said GTFO here! Dude is gonna kill us all! ...eventually the guy left and banged on the neighbours door, stole their car and took off! (he was clearly multi talented!) 2 hours had passed since the original call by then and still no sign of the boys in blue.. called multiple times and kept calling even after the guy had left... gardai finally arrived no less than 5 hours later. Gave them an earful! :rolleyes:

Animord · 11-06-2011 11:41AM

A few years ago I was at home alone at night when two people tried to break into my house (well I thought they were - it turned out they were being attacked themselves but that's another story) I was terrified and dialled 999 and explained what was happening, gave my full address and told them that I was female and alone.

Absolutely nothing happened, I called them three times and was pretty upset and screaming by the last call. Anyway eventually a garda car did turn up, - it turned out that a neighbour had heard the commotion and had called the local guard at home so it was an off duty guy who came - anyway, just after he had left I got a call back from the 999 woman - a good hour after my initial call. She said that a squad car had just left Letterkenny and would be with me soon. Bearing in mind that I live in Cork it didn't really seem to be much help.... I did share with her what I thought of her and the entire service.

KindOfIrish · 11-06-2011 11:43AM

spurious wrote: »

Much as I'd love to join in the Garda knocking, can anyone who has knowledge of the workings of the service explain why exactly they don't have civilians dealing with the routine paperwork?

money the reason. overtime payments are too good to pass it to civilians.

suicide_circus · 11-06-2011 12:16PM

OP may I ask, did ye have therink tayakin at the time?

House break in - No police response

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