Assisted Suicide

Paully D · 09-06-2011 12:22AM #1

A very dark subject, but would you/could you do it for someone?

Personally I don't think I'd ever be able to bring myself to help a loved one pass away. Even if they were suffering badly and wanted to end it I just wouldn't be able to do it.

squod · 09-06-2011 12:24AM

Joking aside, Id hope someone would care enough about me to end whatever suffering I'd have to endure at the end if need be.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 09-06-2011 12:26AM

if they where in agony,yes i would.

Fago! · 09-06-2011 12:27AM

Hell yeah I'd do it (if it was legal).That's only if they were suffering from a terribly painful and terminal illness. I'd much prefer they were put out of their agonising misery and at peace. I'd imagine it's a horrible thing to have to live with so much pain when you know it's not gonna get any better and you know you're going to die anyway. I'd want someone to do it for me if I was in their situation. The Euthanasia laws should seriously be changed.

Cill Dara Abu · 09-06-2011 12:28AM

If someone I loved was suffering and asked me to assist them I would do it!

Wolfe Tone · 09-06-2011 12:33AM

No I wouldn't, I think its wrong to purposefully extinguish a life like that.

EGAR · 09-06-2011 12:35AM

I would. I would like to be able to go with dignity myself and would afford it to loved ones.

dark crystal · 09-06-2011 12:36AM

Would you take your cat or dog to the vet to be put down if they were in considerable pain and misery and there was no cure?

I can't see why a loved one would deserve any less compassion than afforded to the family pet, to be honest.

Saying that, it would be something you would have to be prepared to live with for the rest of your life...not an easy thing to do by any means, even if it was the right thing to do at the time.

Still, I think every human being should have the right to end their life, if they wish to do so. I understand there could be a legal grey area in some cases, but if someone is of sound mind and directly requests to die in familiar surroundings, with their loved ones around to help them and make that transition easier, then who really has the right to say they shouldn't be allowed to do so?

Badgermonkey · 09-06-2011 12:37AM

Impossible to know 'til you're in that terrible position.

Would be in favour of legislating for it, though it'd be a car-crash of a debate.

Cill Dara Abu · 09-06-2011 12:37AM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

No I wouldn't, I think its wrong to purposefully extinguish a life like that.

If you came across a dying dog on the road who was in alot of pain, what would you do?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 09-06-2011 12:38AM

Paully D wrote: »

A very dark subject, but would you/could you do it for someone?

Personally I don't think I'd ever be able to bring myself to help a loved one pass away. Even if they were suffering badly and wanted to end it I just wouldn't be able to do it.

I have absolutely no doubt what so ever that I'd have the compassion for a loved one to assist in their suicide.

Wolfe Tone · 09-06-2011 12:39AM

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

If you came across a dying dog on the road who was in alot of pain, what would you do?

As much as I like dogs, humans are totally different and way more important.

Interestingly I decided against becoming a vet as I simply wouldn't be able to put them to sleep.

Wolfe Tone · 09-06-2011 12:40AM

squod wrote: »

Joking aside, Id hope someone would care enough about me to end whatever suffering I'd have to endure at the end if need be.

I don't think it is fair btw to basically say that those who wouldn't do it are not compassionate or loving enough.

Orim · 09-06-2011 12:42AM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

No I wouldn't, I think its wrong to purposefully extinguish a life like that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you regularly post in support of republican paramilitary groups?

I would definitely do it. When my cat was in pain and suffering I chose for her life to be taken because it was the best thing for her. I would gladly do the same for a human loved one.

jive · 09-06-2011 12:44AM

If the person was suffering and there was 0% chance of recovery then I would absolutely support it. Think about it - if you were bed ridden in agony every day with no chance of recovery would you want to live? It'd be like torture only torture will potentially subside. The only thing awaiting you would be death. I'd look at it as doing that person a favour by supporting their assisted suicide - I would bring them somewhere to do it legally though because I'm not willing to go down for doing someone a favour!

I think it's odd that people are against it to be honest with you. Each to their own I guess but I think a person should have the right to decide whether they want to live or die and if they can't kill themselves without help then they should be helped. They're the ones that press the button anyway so they are killing themselves, they just need assistance. If you need assistance to kill yourself then you are not leading a good life, imo.

Wolfe Tone · 09-06-2011 12:44AM

Orim wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you regularly post in support of republican paramilitary groups?

I would definitely do it. When my cat was in pain and suffering I chose for her life to be taken because it was the best thing for her. I would gladly do the same for a human loved one.

I dont support any republican paramilitary groups in existence, besides theres a big difference between a war and helping someone kill themselves.

squod · 09-06-2011 12:44AM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

I don't think it is fair btw to basically say that those who wouldn't do it are not compassionate or loving enough.

Good point. Also, I couldn't ask another to do it. In fairness the patient should be given more rights or choices.

Dunny · 09-06-2011 12:45AM

Stop watching Emmerdale

Wolfe Tone · 09-06-2011 12:47AM

squod wrote: »

Good point. Also, I couldn't ask another to do it. In fairness the patient should be given more rights or choices.

People, patients in particular, may feel pressured into doing it, to save stress for family, bills etc and I dont think thats right.

The Scientician · 09-06-2011 12:49AM

Yeah I'd definitely do it, and hope one of my loved ones would do the same for me when the time came. It's the flipside of the wonderful medical technologies we have that sometimes life is prolonged beyond the desire of the person, and pain is their only future. In fact I'll euthanise ya now if ya don't shurrup.

Rothmans · 09-06-2011 12:49AM

Euthanasia should really be legal in Ireland in circumstances of terminal illness where people are suffering terribly ( assuming they are of sound mind). Doctors should be allowed to administer enough morphine as is necessary to relieve the pain, and if this amount of painkilling drugs is enough to kill the patient, than so be it ( assuming the patient can give informed consent of course).
If this were they case, relatives would not have to worry about being charged with assisted suicide ( which carries a max 14 yr sentance), they would not have to live with the guilt of assisting the suicide of a loved one, and finally, the person with the illness would not have to suffer the stress and discomfort of travelling to another country (( like Holland) where euthanasia is legal), possibly alone due to legal reasons. Instead, they'd be allowed die at home in the comfort of their friends and family.

EDIT: Personally though, I'd prefer to go out kicking and screaming.

squod · 09-06-2011 12:49AM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

People, patients in particular, may feel pressured into doing it, to save stress for family, bills etc and I dont think thats right.

There's a flip side. My own parents as an example. Neither of them were going to get better, suffering could have been ended sooner. They had horrible deaths.

StupidLikeAFox · 09-06-2011 12:51AM

A hundred times yes.

Rather than being cruel to loved ones, I think assisted suicide allows for those closest to the sick person to be prepared for their death. It allows them to come to terms with what is happening, provides adequate closure and I would imagine it actually helps the grieving process as you are sure the person was prepared and in a good place at the time of death. It also allows those closest to the person to be with them at their death. Its a sort of ritual. It allows a person to die on their own terms

Gimme that any day over a slow and painful death, which may be complemented by painful medical treatments and a person disintegrating over time and becoming just a shell of a human being.

OkayWhatever · 09-06-2011 12:51AM

I'd want somebody to do it for me, so I'd do it for somebody. They might just be in so much pain that they can't even think about all their good memories and nobody wants that.. There's some things you need to always remember.

sparks24 · 09-06-2011 12:51AM

i'd like the choice if i was in a sound mind for myself
but helping someone? hopefully i'll never know because its
something i think you would have to live through

HazDanz · 09-06-2011 12:59AM

Yes I would for someone who was very important to me and they felt it was the best decision for them. I would probable have very deep thoughts about it until the end of my days though.

Yakult · 09-06-2011 01:04AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxQYTFIZi8A

Saw this on tv one night, very hard to watch near the end but you can understand he's choice 100%.

Would recommend watching it if you have time to spare.

StupidLikeAFox · 09-06-2011 01:09AM

Yakult wrote: »

Saw this on tv one night, very hard to watch near the end but you can understand he's choice 100%.

Would recommend watching it if you have time to spare.

Saw that same thing. The guy had a disease which deteriorated the muscles and could basically have been left unable to move any muscles, not even blink, yet still have a completely functional brain. That would be torture.

Naikon · 09-06-2011 01:11AM

I am serious here. I would rather carry out my own death. Having seen what diseases such as Cancer can do to people, I would prefer to eat a bullet early than go through all that. Only in the most dire circumstances, mind you. A shotgun would be messy, but practically impossible to mess up provided you use the correct round. You have every right to do what you want to your own body. Assisted suicide is a bit more complex. I would though given the right circumstances.

flutterflye · 09-06-2011 01:15AM

Obviously would depend entirely on my relationship with the person, the specific situation, and the reasons for the person's request.

But after careful thought, in certain cases, yes, I would do it in a heart beat.

It really should be legalised.

If a person of sound mind is suffering and wishes to go, they should be allowed to go.

I do realise however that it would open a mindfield of red tape, confusion, misdiagnosis, regret, malpractice etc.

Would create loads of new jobs in the legal field though

OMG Its EoinD · 09-06-2011 01:18AM

Life should be lived , not suffered through. So yes I would. I would feel awful though.

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