RTÉ funded the programme of a British fascist!

A.Tomas · 08-06-2011 10:17PM #1

http://www.rte.ie/ten/2011/0208/thestoryofireland.html

Here is the proof that RTÉ have bank rolled, given credibility and refused to allow any real critique of a "factual programme", which is essentially a
narrow-minded and ignorant British propaganda effort, part funded by the BBC, to airbrush Irish history and British-Irish relations.

The series slated by Irish viewers, and ridiculed by Irish historians as pompous, self-serving, jingoist (for the British) and ignorant, was presented by
"Irish journalist" Fergal Keane (who is an officer of the British empire no less).

An article he wrote for the UK Independent back in 2001 has resurfaced and intimates his British fascist leanings.

He claims how Britain must crush the self determined Ireland. (Unapologetically oblivious to the conflict caused in the North as a consequence of British expansion and violence!)

" I have never had anything but loathing for the creed of Gaelic nationalist exceptionalism."

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fergal-keane--ireland-has-paid-a-high-price-for-its-dishonest-mythmaking-632796.html

"A vast pasture of sacred cows has been dispatched to the abattoir and only a few green fascists are pining. In a generation or two even those pathetic remnants of muscular nationalism will have been consigned to history."

Referring to Ireland as populated by "green fascists", can only make
Mr Keane "pine" for the days of the British murder machine, which he has always insinuated kept Ireland down, and in check.

The Pax Britannia, according to Keane, and British culture was superior and more powerful than Irish "exceptionalism", and Irish independence should not nor never have been tolerated.

Guill · 08-06-2011 10:18PM

Meh..

Conor108 · 08-06-2011 10:18PM

RTEs shite anyway

prinz · 08-06-2011 10:21PM

A.Tomas wrote: »

Referring to Ireland as populated by "green fascists"....

No, he referred to a small number of halfwit cavemen, the type who murdered a young Irishman not so long ago.

/Close thread. BS rant.

ejmaztec · 08-06-2011 10:21PM

Haven't had one of these threads for at least 800 minutes.

Canis Lupus · 08-06-2011 10:24PM

USA USA USA

no wait....

Phill Ewinn · 08-06-2011 10:25PM

Posting this in AH? Do you not know the ground rules? This is where history is re-written. The poor aul gombeen terrorist never did nothing for Eire. Lay down OP and accept what RTE tells you!

padd b1975 · 08-06-2011 10:30PM

News and Media forum?

A.Tomas · 08-06-2011 10:32PM

prinz wrote: »

No, he referred to a small number of halfwit cavemen, the type who murdered a young Irishman not so long ago.

/Close thread. BS rant.

So Keane's grandparents in the RIC and India, Afghanistan , Iraq,
South Africa or whatever got killed trying to kill others for Britain so they're the terrorists?

Because Britain has the right to unquestionably occupy the Éire? With their cavemen? (Keane looked like a caveman when he was on RTÉ)

If an Irish person had far right wing opinions like that, they'd be labelled fascists.

fryup · 08-06-2011 10:32PM

its a Shinner thread folks

ejmaztec · 08-06-2011 10:35PM

A.Tomas wrote: »

So Keane's grandparents in the RIC and India, Afghanistan , Iraq,
South Africa or whatever got killed trying to kill others for Britain so they're the terrorists?

Because Britain has the right to unquestionably occupy the Éire? With their cavemen? (Keane looked like a caveman when he was on RTÉ)

If an Irish person had far right wing opinions like that, they'd be labelled fascists.

I thought he wore a suit.

mikemac · 08-06-2011 10:36PM

News & media forum to be honest

ejmaztec · 08-06-2011 10:37PM

mikemac wrote: »

News & media forum to be honest

Ranting and raving forum?

A.Tomas · 08-06-2011 10:40PM

fryup wrote: »

its a Shinner thread folks

Nope, a right of reply thread.

(Shinner thread, really? That's like something RTÉ would say

)

cocoshovel · 08-06-2011 10:43PM

Good for them.

I couldn't care less if they funded a programme of a British man wiping his arse with the Irish flag.

prinz · 08-06-2011 10:43PM

A.Tomas wrote: »

Because Britain has the right to unquestionably occupy the Éire? With their cavemen? (Keane looked like a caveman when he was on RTÉ)

Wtf is THE Éire? Going to make any sense any time soon?

Jazzy · 08-06-2011 10:47PM

A.Tomas wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/ten/2011/0208/thestoryofireland.html

Here is the proof that RTÉ have bank rolled, given credibility and refused to allow any real critique of a "factual programme", which is essentially a
narrow-minded and ignorant British propaganda effort, part funded by the BBC, to airbrush Irish history and British-Irish relations.

The series slated by Irish viewers, and ridiculed by Irish historians as pompous, self-serving, jingoist (for the British) and ignorant, was presented by
"Irish journalist" Fergal Keane (who is an officer of the British empire no less).

An article he wrote for the UK Independent back in 2001 has resurfaced and intimates his British fascist leanings.

He claims how Britain must crush the self determined Ireland. (Unapologetically oblivious to the conflict caused in the North as a consequence of British expanision and violence!)

" I have never had anything but loathing for the creed of Gaelic nationalist exceptionalism."

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fergal-keane--ireland-has-paid-a-high-price-for-its-dishonest-mythmaking-632796.html

"A vast pasture of sacred cows has been dispatched to the abattoir and only a few green fascists are pining. In a generation or two even those pathetic remnants of muscular nationalism will have been consigned to history."

Referring to Ireland as populated by "green fascists", can only make
Mr Keane "pine" for the days of the British murder machine, which he has always insinuated kept Ireland down, and in check.

The Pax Britannia, according to Keane, and British culture was superior and more powerful than Irish "exceptionalism", and Irish independence should not nor never have been be tolerated.

i love your version of history and education.

"The story of Ireland is vivid, exciting and immensely varied. It is far more than the sum of old clichés and myths which set the Irish as a people who were prisoners and victims of history"

id say that really pissed you off, someone saying that you might be wrong and perhaps a bit thick. people like you NEED to be called out on your stupidity and lack of true education.

read 'Season of Blood' or even one of the essays from it and come back to me. Fergal Keane has a far greater authority then you will ever have on the subject of hatred and has seen exactly what it can do first hand. hes bang right about you and your ilk and you and those like you need to be deleted from this country. your collective chip on your shoulders costs lives, money, families and opportunities and its about time someone stood up to you and all the other 'ra heads' and the like and told you to shut the f**k up and sit the f**k down and stop dragging us backwards due to your misdirected anger.
know your enemy

My name is URL · 08-06-2011 10:48PM

I thought it was a very interesting series. A bit dismayed that anyone would be so pissed about it. Wasn't the whole point of it to challenge the romanticised view of history which is held by many? I certainly didn't see it as a whitewash of British wrongdoings.

pow wow · 08-06-2011 10:49PM

I need to meet the people who could spot the airbrushing.

prinz · 08-06-2011 10:52PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I certainly didn't see it as a whitewash of British wrongdoings.

That's because it certainly wasn't a whitewash.

steve9859 · 08-06-2011 10:54PM

I thought it was very good. As far as I could see it did not airbrush out various English atrocities. But because it did not further propagate the romanticised view that many Irish have of their history, the shinners hate it!

cml387 · 08-06-2011 10:57PM

A.Tomas wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/ten/2011/0208/thestoryofireland.html

Here is the proof that RTÉ have bank rolled, given credibility and refused to allow any real critique of a "factual programme", which is essentially a
narrow-minded and ignorant British propaganda effort, part funded by the BBC, to airbrush Irish history and British-Irish relations.

The series slated by Irish viewers, and ridiculed by Irish historians as pompous, self-serving, jingoist (for the British) and ignorant, was presented by
"Irish journalist" Fergal Keane (who is an officer of the British empire no less).

An article he wrote for the UK Independent back in 2001 has resurfaced and intimates his British fascist leanings.

He claims how Britain must crush the self determined Ireland. (Unapologetically oblivious to the conflict caused in the North as a consequence of British expansion and violence!)

" I have never had anything but loathing for the creed of Gaelic nationalist exceptionalism."

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fergal-keane--ireland-has-paid-a-high-price-for-its-dishonest-mythmaking-632796.html

"A vast pasture of sacred cows has been dispatched to the abattoir and only a few green fascists are pining. In a generation or two even those pathetic remnants of muscular nationalism will have been consigned to history."

Referring to Ireland as populated by "green fascists", can only make
Mr Keane "pine" for the days of the British murder machine, which he has always insinuated kept Ireland down, and in check.

The Pax Britannia, according to Keane, and British culture was superior and more powerful than Irish "exceptionalism", and Irish independence should not nor never have been tolerated.

The logic goggles,they do nothing.

Dravokivich · 08-06-2011 10:59PM

A.Tomas wrote: »

Referring to Ireland as populated by "green fascists", can only make
Mr Keane "pine" for the days of the British murder machine, which he has always insinuated kept Ireland down, and in check.

But, our facists were blue.

A.Tomas · 08-06-2011 11:01PM

Jazzy wrote: »

i love your version of history and education.

"The story of Ireland is vivid, exciting and immensely varied. It is far more than the sum of old clichés and myths which set the Irish as a people who were prisoners and victims of history"

id say that really pissed you off, someone saying that you might be wrong and perhaps a bit thick. people like you NEED to be called out on your stupidity and lack of true education.

read 'Season of Blood' or even one of the essays from it and come back to me. Fergal Keane has a far greater authority then you will ever have on the subject of hatred and has seen exactly what it can do first hand. hes bang right about you and your ilk and you and those like you need to be deleted from this country. your collective chip on your shoulders costs lives, money, families and opportunities and its about time someone stood up to you and all the other 'ra heads' and the like and told you to shut the f**k up and sit the f**k down and stop dragging us backwards due to your misdirected anger.
know your enemy

Jazzy · 08-06-2011 11:05PM

A.Tomas wrote: »

no, not ":D" - you are f**kin wrong and you are going to have to deal with that. everything ive said is true. i know you dont like that. i know you dont like the potential possibility that yes, you might just be a moron, but frankly - i could care less. people like you need to be made to look as stupid as you are and make sure that you have no credibility whatsoever. there are thousands of young people poisoned by you and your kind and its our duty to stop that flow of misdirected anger

A.Tomas · 08-06-2011 11:06PM

Jazzy wrote: »

i love your version of history and education.

read 'Season of Blood' or even one of the essays from it and come back to me. Fergal Keane has a far greater authority then you will ever have on the subject of hatred and has seen exactly what it can do first hand. hes bang right about you and your ilk and you and those like you need to be deleted from this country. your collective chip on your shoulders costs lives, money, families and opportunities and its about time someone stood up to you and all the other 'ra heads' and the like and told you to shut the f**k up and sit the f**k down and stop dragging us backwards due to your misdirected anger.
know your enemy

Thanks.

WTF, do you work for him or something? Calm down. Wow anyone else here in the 'ra'?

His article in the UK Independent (which everyone is avoiding) shows his dancing to the tune of the Britsh far right.

Incidentally, Keane and what he has seen and made a lot of money out of,

... with his far greater authority, does not seem to have any degrees in Irish history, probably why the BBC were happy for him to present the feckin show!:)

A.Tomas · 08-06-2011 11:07PM

prinz wrote: »

Wtf is THE Éire?

sarcasm.

A.Tomas · 08-06-2011 11:09PM

steve9859 wrote: »

I thought it was very good. As far as I could see it did not airbrush out various English atrocities. But because it did not further propagate the romanticised view that many Irish have of their history, the shinners hate it!

Embracing and celebrating our part in the British empire (a suggestion in the show and apologising for our democracy) isn't something that should be romanticised.

steddyeddy · 08-06-2011 11:11PM

In fairness having watched some of the programme he did paint the British as D1cks to us in the past. He definatly didnt white wash history. They were painted as sectarian, racist and murderers. It was only small issues that he pointed out some irish brought on themselves.

prinz · 08-06-2011 11:14PM

A.Tomas wrote: »

His article in the UK Independent (which everyone is avoiding) shows his dancing to the tune of the Britsh far right.

Which part exactly?

Forest Master · 08-06-2011 11:18PM

Jazzy wrote: »

yes, you might just be a moron, but frankly - i could care less.

I agree with your posts ITT, but it's "I couldn't care less". Sorry - a personal irk of mine.
It's usually ignorant Americans that say "could care less", which is actually the opposite of what they mean; they'd realise if they took 1 second to actually think about the logic of the words they're using.

RTÉ funded the programme of a British fascist!

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