David Norris for President....would you vote for him?

BlueSmoker · 01-06-2011 01:21AM

El Weirdo wrote: »

Not necessarily. Paedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescents. I would say the average 15 year old would have passed puberty.

Also:

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/448575/pedophilia

Fair enough, but aren't we off topic, and if you continue to believe that god help the sixteen years olds who get raped, cause the don't fit into your little box, I and most people consider 16 year olds as kids. Sorry about that

Sorry I don't know how this site works yet

Cork boy 55 · 01-06-2011 01:27AM

No i will not vote for him
Ireland may be ready for a homosexual prez
but some of your trading partners are homophopic and
Ireland's need for trade is paramount
we cannot risk a homosexual prez now.
realpolitik

Can you imagine Norris going to Saudi Aravia as Mary did
He will damage trade IMO

http://www.mofa.gov.sa/sites/mofaen/ServicesAndInformation/news/MinistryNews/PublishingImages/98760_11.jpg

citizen_p · 01-06-2011 01:34AM

Well this is just fabulous..

BlueSmoker · 01-06-2011 01:37AM

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

No i will not vote for him
Ireland may be ready for a homosexual prez
but some of your trading partners are homophopic and
Ireland's need for trade is paramount
we cannot risk a homosexual prez now.
realpolitik

Can you imagine Norris going to Saudi Aravia as Mary did
He will damage trade IMO

http://www.mofa.gov.sa/sites/mofaen/ServicesAndInformation/news/MinistryNews/PublishingImages/98760_11.jpg

I see you got a problem, not the rest of us Bizarre

Craebear · 01-06-2011 01:41AM

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

No i will not vote for him
Ireland may be ready for a homosexual prez
but some of your trading partners are homophopic and
Ireland's need for trade is paramount
we cannot risk a homosexual prez now.
realpolitik

Can you imagine Norris going to Saudi Aravia as Mary did
He will damage trade IMO

http://www.mofa.gov.sa/sites/mofaen/ServicesAndInformation/news/MinistryNews/PublishingImages/98760_11.jpg

Who cares what those desert dwelling camel ****ers think? Voting based on what babaric and backward cultures would think of us is the most stupid thing ever.

As regards these comments Norris made, I don't know what the hell he was thinking but I don't think he is an evil man. He has clearly done a lot of good and it's absurd to think he's a paedophile or something of the sort.

hinault · 01-06-2011 01:47AM

Norris wouldn't get my vote.

I think this controversy shows that Norris is at least guilty of poor judgement.
Politicians need to exercise better judgement in this country and this episode on so many levels shows that Norris hasn't got the capacity to do so.

Cork boy 55 · 01-06-2011 01:48AM

Craebear wrote: »

Who cares what those desert dwelling camel ****ers think? Voting based on what babaric and backward cultures would think of us is the most stupid thing ever.

That racism aginst the Saudi

It ain 't just the saudis it all the others haters as well we got sell beef and stuff to them

It's realpolitik we are a small trading state we must play the game not rock the boat

Address my point Could Norris carry out a successful trade mission to a country which has dealth penalty for gays as per Mary.

world gay laws
http://www.mariage3d.com/BLOGSLESIMAGES/World_homosexuality_laws-FULL.png
http://loopylettuce.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/wolrdgaylawsblack.png

hinault · 01-06-2011 01:50AM

Discodog wrote: »

And .........it had no effect on his career so the public cannot of taken it seriously.

The wider public don't get to vote in the Seanad elections.

BlueSmoker · 01-06-2011 01:53AM

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

That racism aginst the Saudi

It ain 't just the saudis it all the others haters as well we got sell beef and stuff to them

It's realpolitik we are a small trading state we must play the game not rock the boat

Address my point Could Norris carry out a successful trade mission to a country which has dealth penalty for gays as per Mary.

world gay laws
http://loopylettuce.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/wolrdgaylawsblack.png

That was my point exactly, hit the nail on the head, there boy

In answer to your question, of course he can, who wants to create
war on Ireland?????

hinault · 01-06-2011 01:57AM

zuroph wrote: »

Maybe he's not litigious, or didnt fancy suing a woman with little means? Not suing is not evidence of guilt in any way.

where did you get the comment that the tape "was too obscene"???? Because this evening she says she may have lost it when her roof collapsed.

taking legal action doesn't necessarily mean suing.

He could have instructed his solicitor to write to the interviewer/publication stating that the contents of the interview were incorrect and demanded a public retraction.

It happens quite a bit you know.
If the publication is in error, it would not hesitate for fear of having to suffer more punitive forms of redress

Deckof52 · 01-06-2011 04:43AM

Norris Supporter here!

What if Norris wasn't misquoted?
:P

flash1080 · 01-06-2011 06:07AM

Discodog wrote: »

David Norris is too intelligent for the Irish public. He makes a genuine attempt to discuss issues that Ireland is not ready or able to discuss. His presidency would do so much good for Ireland. He has a genuine human compassion & is probably the only candidate who understands that the presidency is not political. He would be a great sign that Ireland is growing up is is ready to become a sophisticated country.

Now everyone is going to pull out disjointed quotes & attach their own meaning to them. This is a common tactic in the dirty world of politics. Norris was not a target until every poll showed him as the likely winner. Now certain sections of our society will want to stop him. But I think that the majority know the real David Norris. His qualities shine for all to see & people know a witch hunt when they see one.

The role of President of Ireland is somewhat political, if Norris doesn't think it's political then he mustn't be the right person for the job. Voting for Norris would be a sign of people's ignorance. Voting for the best candidate, even if they're not joyous Joycean scholars or homosexual, would be the sign of a truly mature, intelligent and sophiscated country.

getz · 01-06-2011 06:44AM

flash1080 wrote: »

The role of President of Ireland is somewhat political, if Norris doesn't think it's political then he mustn't be the right person for the job. Voting for Norris would be a sign of people's ignorance. Voting for the best candidate, even if they're not joyous Joycean scholars or homosexual, would be the sign of a truly mature, intelligent and sophiscated country.

do you believe a president for ireland should be ,say like gerry adams or a member of SF ?.i can just see the headlines,i will not meet the queen as she represents irelands 800 years of colonial occupation,now who is political intelligent.

flash1080 · 01-06-2011 06:53AM

getz wrote: »

do you believe a president for ireland should be ,say like gerry adams or a member of SF ?.i can just see the headlines,i will not meet the queen as she represents irelands 800 years of colonial occupation,now who is political intelligent.

This thread is about David Norris' presidential bid.

touts · 01-06-2011 07:04AM

I just don't see David Norris as president. I think the president should be......well... presidential for want of another desctiption and I can imagine David deciding to do or say anything on the spur of the moment. It doesn't matter if he has cleared speeches and plans with the government and the protocol office. If a thought enters his head with five minutes to go that's what will happen.

I could imagine him holding an easter egg hunt in the Aras and then turning up in an easter bunny suit. Or meeting the President of the US in an orange guantanamo style jump suit. Or accepting the credentials of the Ambasador of Uganda wearing a "I'm gay and I'm proud" Tee-shirt.

All worthy causes and initiatives but the images of the antics of the president of Ireland would be beamed internationally and we would be the laughing stock of the world. He would be the Jedward of Heads of state.

It's nothing to do with him being gay. I think Colm O'Gorman would make an excellent president and he is gay and I hope he runs in the next election (assuming he won't this time). It's just I don't think David is a good fit with the president and I suspect the restrictions of the job would kill him. I firmly believe if he is elected he will resign within 2 years.

That said Helen Lucy Burke is a b**** and has made me more not less likely to vote for Norris. I hope someone is digging into that wagon's history and I pray there is some juicy bit of scandal around her that will send her into disgraceful retirement.

PCros · 01-06-2011 07:32AM

Whats with his stuck up wannabe British accent? Where did he get that from because hes lived all his life in Ireland am I correct?

bad2dabone · 01-06-2011 07:43AM

I'm fond of David Norris personally but he's just not president material. nothing to do with his sexuality but everything to do with his mouth being a liability.

01-06-2011 07:48AM

touts wrote: »

I just don't see David Norris as president. I think the president should be......well... presidential for want of another desctiption and I can imagine David deciding to do or say anything on the spur of the moment. It doesn't matter if he has cleared speeches and plans with the government and the protocol office. If a thought enters his head with five minutes to go that's what will happen.

I could imagine him holding an easter egg hunt in the Aras and then turning up in an easter bunny suit. Or meeting the President of the US in an orange guantanamo style jump suit. Or accepting the credentials of the Ambasador of Uganda wearing a "I'm gay and I'm proud" Tee-shirt.

Best. President. Ever.

If I knew he'd be up to this kind of stuff as president, he would get my vote instantly.

mikemac · 01-06-2011 07:50AM

Hillary from Clare
Robinson from Mayo
McAleese from Belfast

Cork is due a turn.

El Weirdo · 01-06-2011 08:40AM

BlueSmoker wrote: »

I'm not the one trying to proof anything, I never disagreed with you,

You implied that a 15 year old boy that had sex with a 15 year old girl was a paedophile. He isn't, and I explained why.

Sorry for being a pedant (btw, that doesn't mean I want to fuck kids).

BlueSmoker wrote: »

I just said it was stepping over the law, and possibly you might need help.

What do I need help with exactly? Be very careful with how you answer that one.

BlueSmoker wrote: »

My point has being made, let the mod do their business.:)

What have the mods got to do with this?

AudreyHepburn · 01-06-2011 09:00AM

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

but some of your trading partners are homophopic

Such as who?

we cannot risk a homosexual prez now.

Why not? Why should his sexuality make him any less of a President?

Can you imagine Norris going to Saudi Aravia as Mary did
He will damage trade IMO

He'd damage Trade because he's gay? That's some attitude.

AudreyHepburn · 01-06-2011 09:05AM

hinault wrote: »

Norris wouldn't get my vote.

I think this controversy shows that Norris is at least guilty of poor judgement.
Politicians need to exercise better judgement in this country and this episode on so many levels shows that Norris hasn't got the capacity to do so.

All this contraversy shows is how easily things can be taken out of context and made into something they are not.

It's not Norris's fault people have misread what he said, deliberatly or otherwise.

mikemac · 01-06-2011 09:06AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Such as who?

We sell beef to Iran.
At least we used to anyway

AudreyHepburn · 01-06-2011 09:14AM

mikemac wrote: »

We sell beef to Iran.
At least we used to anyway

Ok, I didn't know that. Any others?

Personally I don't think we should allow another country's homophobia to dictate who we elected to represent us.

RachaelVO · 01-06-2011 09:25AM

zuroph wrote: »

Maybe he's not litigious, or didnt fancy suing a woman with little means? Not suing is not evidence of guilt in any way.

where did you get the comment that the tape "was too obscene"???? Because this evening she says she may have lost it when her roof collapsed.

That's exactly what he said on PK yesterday. He said that yes he has his solicitors looking at it, but he did not want to take an older woman, of limited means to court. He also made it clear he didn't want his supporters to attack her in anyway. He wants to fight his campaign on his track record with no negative campaigning.

He's being a whole lot nicer that I would, I'd have her in court so quick her feet wouldn't touch the fecking ground, but that's probably why I like him so much, he is very honourable!

prinz · 01-06-2011 09:50AM

David Norris, holder of one of Willy Wonka's Say-and-Do-What-You-Like Golden Passes.

apoeiguq3094y · 01-06-2011 10:39AM

prinz wrote: »

David Norris, holder of one of Willy Wonka's Say-and-Do-What-You-Like Golden Passes.

Well if you're in any way critical of him its a definite sign of homophobia. I mean every one knows that's the only reason people don't like him. Amiright?

AudreyHepburn · 01-06-2011 10:57AM

apoeiguq3094y wrote: »

Well if you're in any way critical of him its a definite sign of homophobia. I mean every one knows that's the only reason people don't like him. Amiright?

Not one person on this thread has said that in fairness.

Einhard · 01-06-2011 11:39AM

RachaelVO wrote: »

He's being a whole lot nicer that I would, I'd have her in court so quick her feet wouldn't touch the fecking ground, but that's probably why I like him so much, he is very honourable!

That's a strange way to look at it. Norris claims that he's being grievously libelled, and you believe that the only reason he hasn't chosen to defend his name and reputation through the courts, is because he's an honourable gent. Call me a cynic, but isn't possible that he hasn't gone down that route, because he's not confident of victory?

Discodog · 01-06-2011 12:00PM

Einhard wrote: »

That's a strange way to look at it. Norris claims that he's being grievously libelled, and you believe that the only reason he hasn't chosen to defend his name and reputation through the courts, is because he's an honourable gent. Call me a cynic, but isn't possible that he hasn't gone down that route, because he's not confident of victory?

Surely he is arguing that his words were taken out of context & I don't think that this would constitute libel.

I could quote you:

Einhard wrote: »

Call me a cynic

So you are a cynic about everything & don't believe anyone ?. Obviously not but I can imply it by selectively quoting & taking your words out of context.

David Norris for President....would you vote for him?

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