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Educate Together has won the right to establish and run second-level schools

  • 28-05-2011 12:10PM
    #1
    Moderators Posts: 52,107 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Some good news regarding second level education.
    Educate Together, the multidenominational schools group, has won the right to establish and run second-level schools after a lengthy campaign.

    In a highly significant move, Minister for Education Ruairí Quinn will today announce the Department of Education will grant recognition to the group at its agm in Wexford.

    The decision means parents will have a new choice of school at second level. At present, most second-level schools are run by Catholic religious orders. The alternative is mainly vocational schools and community and comprehensive schools.

    Educate Together currently controls 58 schools at primary level, 27 of which are in the greater Dublin Area. The group has seen spectacular growth in recent years. It has also played a pivotal role in reaching out to immigrant communities in Dublin.

    Until now, the group has been unable to respond to the huge demand among parents for the same kind of multidenominational education at second level. Parent and community groups have been actively campaigning for Educate Together second-level schools for years.

    Last year, the Department of Education awarded the patronage of a new second-level school in Gorey to Wexford VEC after a poll among parents. More than 950 parents in Gorey voted for the Educate Together option.

    The move was seen as a reversal for Educate Together, but its campaign for second-level recognition has gained momentum since the change of government, as Labour has long backed the move.

    Parent groups in several areas including Gorey, Wicklow/south Dublin, Lucan in Co Dublin, north Dublin, Cork and Limerick have been active in campaigning for the second-level schools.

    Last year, a TCD research study found 90 per cent of parents with children in Educate Together schools would send their children to second-level schools run by the multidenominational group.

    Educate Together has stressed it wants to deliver a new model of second-level education within a more child-friendly environment. It has been critical of the dominance of the CAO points system and rote learning within the current senior cycle.

    According to last year’s survey, parents in Educate Together schools say their main priority is social and emotional development of pupils, rather than high academic achievement. Only 35 per cent of parents with children in Educate Together schools believe academic results are the best indication of a “good” school.

    Educate Together promises its second-level schools will “nurture critical and creative thinkers, problem-solvers, effective communicators and innovators. Our schools will operate as truly democratic learning communities, empowering students, teachers and parents to work together towards educational aims in an atmosphere of equality and respect.’’

    Educate Together opened its first school, the Dalkey school project, in 1978. The core principles of Educate Together are that schools are multidenominational, co-educational, learner-centred and democratically run.

    Its campaign for second-level recognition has been backed by several leading education figures including Prof Áine Hyland, former professor of education at UCC; Prof Sheelagh Drudy, chair of education, UCD; Rose Tully, and the National Parents Council (post-primary). Board members of Educate Together include former education minister Mary O’Rourke and former DCU president Ferdinand von Prondzynski.

    Emer Nowlan, head of education and network development at Educate Together, has said parents at the schools “are used to an environment where everyone’s background is equally respected, and where pupils, parents and teachers all participate in every aspect of school life”.

    Irish Times

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,707 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Good news indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Mistress 69


    That is great news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Colibri


    Fantastic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭CerebralCortex


    This is great!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    *clunk clunk clunk*

    That's the sound of another nail being hammered into the coffin of Catholic dominance.


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  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Marco Refined Smokestack


    great news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Excellent News


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    J C wrote: »
    Excellent News

    You know these schools are a breeding ground for Materialist Atheism right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    You know these schools are a breeding ground for Materialist Atheism right?
    I don't know any such thing ... most of the Atheists I know attended church schools ... and many of the Christians I know attended state school.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Thanks whore! :p

    Great news though


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    You know these schools are a breeding ground for Materialist Atheism right?
    You know, How many truths have been sacrificed at altar of materialism to make these school a breeding ground.....
    Scientists say....... that the material matter is made up of 99.99 % of nothingness and the .01% is not even material..........hypnotized by an illusion, a Great cosmic joke to laugh:)





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    dead one wrote: »
    that the material matter is made up of 99.99 % of nothingness and the .01% is not even material..........hypnotized by an illusion, a Great cosmic joke to laugh

    Step 1: Fail to understand something.
    Step 2: Assume that thing supports your supernatural world view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,707 ✭✭✭stimpson


    You know these schools are a breeding ground for Materialist Atheism right?

    I for one welcome our new Materialistic Atheist overlords.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Whoever posted this news story was gonna be inundated with thanks, cos it's awesome news :D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Great news.

    Crap thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Dave! wrote: »
    Whoever posted this news story was gonna be inundated with thanks, cos it's awesome news :D
    I think it's awesome ... as well !!!!

    ... next topic ... please!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Zillah wrote: »
    Step 1: Fail to understand something.
    Step 2: Assume that thing supports your supernatural world view.

    Aww, I'm really starting to like Dead One's posts. They are like psychedelic surrealist haikus.

    dead one wrote: »
    The truth.... whose smoke has been dimmed...

    Discrimination is a hellhound


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Dead One is about as crazy as, but a lot less irritating than, J C. And he's Muslim, which we don't exactly have in huge numbers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    Zillah wrote: »
    Step 1: Fail to understand something.
    Step a:Fail to give evidence....
    Step b:supporting theories with theories......
    Step c: Ignore Your Prejudices for Better Decision-Making
    Zillah wrote: »
    Step 2: Assume that thing supports your supernatural world view.
    Step nothing----:Assume that thing supports your materialistic view.....
    nothing----Every thing came out of nothing......;)
    strobe wrote: »
    Aww, I'm really starting to like Dead One's posts. They are like psychedelic surrealist haikus.
    “Prejudice cannot see the things that are because it is always looking for things that aren't”
    Zillah wrote: »
    Dead One is about as crazy as, but a lot less irritating than, J C. And he's Muslim, which we don't exactly have in huge numbers.
    Here is an advice for you...
    'A sarcastic person has a superiority complex that can be cured only by the honesty of humility.'


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Fun over.

    Next post on this thread unrelated to second-level ET schools gets a card.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Mistress 69


    Actually posting when I saw the above so not doing so


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    JC-related soapboxing posts moved to specious nonsense thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    robindch wrote: »
    JC-related soapboxing posts moved to specious nonsense thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    I presume this is important for Quinn's patronage plans - are Educate Together going to be the obvious group to transfer those schools to? The article mentioned vocational schools and community schools. I went to a CBS, so I don't know how those work. Do any of them have a network, or are they all one-off locally run schools?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Mistress 69


    Dave! wrote: »
    Thanks whore! :p

    Great news though


    Yes it is great news, and as I said in a previous posting there is a local ET in my area which everybody is impressed with, unlike my view of the mods recent post!:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    mikhail wrote: »
    I presume this is important for Quinn's patronage plans - are Educate Together going to be the obvious group to transfer those schools to? The article mentioned vocational schools and community schools. I went to a CBS, so I don't know how those work. Do any of them have a network, or are they all one-off locally run schools?

    no ffs the schools will be transferred to the vec.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    ^^ Why so testy? Relax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    no ffs the schools will be transferred to the vec.
    I already made it clear that I don't know what the VEC is. Do they teach in lower case there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    mikhail wrote: »
    I already made it clear that I don't know what the VEC is. Do they teach in lower case there?
    VEC stands for Vocational Education Committee ... and they are a Committee appointed by the Local Authority in each county to run the second level state school system in Ireland ... which conists of Vocational Schools and Community Colleges (some of the latter were formed by the merger of a secondary church school and a vocational school within the same locality).
    I went to a state school myself and my children go to a state school ... and all religions co-exist happily together in mutual respect within the school community. Clergy from all denominations are involved at every level within these schools and Biblical Christianity is freely discussed and respected.

    It's a very different situation in American Public Schools where agressive Materialism rules supreme ... and nobody is even allowed to mention God ... quite ironic really, in an otherwise overtly Christian country that even writes 'In God We Trust' ... on it's Dollar Bills ... and has freedom of speech enshrined in it's Constitution!!!
    The joke apparently is that American teachers are only allowed to trust in God when their salary cheques arrive!!!:)

    I understand that Educate Together is a multi-denominational school system ... so I'm sure that they respect and value the beliefs of all of the parents and children attending their schools ... and especially minority religions, just like the situation which currently exists within the state system in Ireland.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭liamw


    Do Educate Together schools have a generic religion class to teach kids about the different religions around the world and their history?


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