Apparently we're having a revolution on the 16th of July...

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 26-05-2011 10:56PM #1

Link: http://www.facebook.com/pages/irishrevolution-july16/147741781965291

More power to them I say. Don't know if I can make it myself, I might have work or the lads might want me to join them for a few pints, it being a saturday and all.

phasers · 26-05-2011 10:58PM

Judging by their profile pic it's Anonymous...

Don't expect much to come of this.

Sheeps · 26-05-2011 10:58PM

what a bunch of dorks

cosmicfart · 26-05-2011 10:59PM

Simpsons and Vendetta did it, this will pale in comparison to the French revolution no doubt, having beers aint much of a revolution tbh

partyatmygaff · 26-05-2011 11:02PM

/facepalm

What exactly is the purpose of this revolution? The Middle East revolted because of their autocratic governments. We have a functioning democracy and an only 2/3 month old government who as of yet have done very little wrong to warrant a revolution.

Revolutionary movement? Think stupid attention-seeking copycat movement.

Riamfada · 26-05-2011 11:03PM

All the effort that Lenin went through, if only he had facebook and the leet skills to set up a facebook page.

Mark200 · 26-05-2011 11:05PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

What exactly is the purpose of this revolution?

Probably to make up for the fact that they forgot to vote or they're too young to vote..

"We demand a future. We demand a say. We have nothing to lose. Time for the #irishrevolution #july16"

Saila · 26-05-2011 11:05PM

what is it with july and revolutions

US 4th July
FRA 14th July
IRE 16th July

prinz · 26-05-2011 11:06PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Revolutionary movement? Think stupid attention-seeking copycat movement.

Exactly the sort of clowns who couldn't be bothered voting in the first place.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 26-05-2011 11:06PM

Saila wrote: »

what is it with july and revolutions

US 4th July
FRA 14th July
IRE 16th July

Sunny weather is necessary for a good revolution. Otherwise people stay at home like in England in 1848. Although the American Revolution didn't begin on July 4th, it was long underway by then.

galwayrush · 26-05-2011 11:11PM

Even less plausable as the rapture thingy last saturday.:pac::pac:

Captain_Generic · 26-05-2011 11:12PM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Sunny weather is necessary for a good revolution. Otherwise people stay at home like in England in 1848.

Well what good is a revolution if we can't wear shorts?

partyatmygaff · 26-05-2011 11:15PM

The funny thing is they actually think a couple of people walking around Dublin wearing V for Vendetta masks are capable of achieving anything but embarrassing themselves.

hatrickpatrick · 26-05-2011 11:17PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

/facepalm

What exactly is the purpose of this revolution? The Middle East revolted because of their autocratic governments. We have a functioning democracy and an only 2/3 month old government who as of yet have done very little wrong to warrant a revolution.

Revolutionary movement? Think stupid attention-seeking copycat movement.

*coughs and splutters*
"FUNCTIONING" democracy?!
What in hell are you smoking?!

What we have is an elitist, aristocratic society which bears the illusion of a republic. Cronyism utterly dilutes democracy in every way possible.

I agree the new government needs to be given a chance, but a change of government is like changing the lightbulb in a faulty socket. What we need it a complete overhaul of our entire electoral and lawmaking system.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 26-05-2011 11:18PM

prinz wrote: »

Exactly the sort of clowns who couldn't be bothered voting in the first place.

I actually know some of the people behind this and they vote in every election and are very motivated about politics. So whatever other accusation you can make, that one is inaccurate.

Captain_Generic wrote: »

Well what good is a revolution if we can't wear shorts?

We'll march on the Dail to this song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcvjXAtzaMU

My name is URL · 26-05-2011 11:20PM

Viva La Resolution!

partyatmygaff · 26-05-2011 11:24PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

What we have is an elitist, aristocratic society which bears the illusion of a republic. Cronyism utterly dilutes democracy in every way possible.

Lovely old rhetoric.

Anyone can put themselves forward for election to Dáil Éireann. Anyone can vote for whoever they wish to vote for relatively sure their votes will not be tampered with. Therefore we have a democracy. What comes of it is irrelevant.

I agree the new government needs to be given a chance, but a change of government is like changing the lightbulb in a faulty socket. What we need it a complete overhaul of our entire electoral and lawmaking system.

Is democracy not good enough? What new electoral and lawmaking system do you propose?

tony 2 tone · 26-05-2011 11:25PM

Oh feck, I'm washing me hair that day.

Laika1986 · 27-05-2011 12:28AM

Gimmicks and masks are the way forward for a revolution

Da Shins Kelly · 27-05-2011 12:31AM

The cynicism and lack of any real history of left wing leanings in Ireland will stop something like this from ever working.

Liam Byrne · 27-05-2011 12:54AM

Don't we have a revolution every 24 hours ? What's so special about the July 16th one ?

squod · 27-05-2011 12:59AM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Is democracy not good enough? What new electoral and lawmaking system do you propose?

One that does what it was originally designed to do is fine with me. Debating in the debating house, having a judiciary which is separate from the Dail etc.......

Ardennes1944 · 27-05-2011 01:18AM

the democracy of hypocrisy eh? what happens here really makes little difference to me now. imma keep working and studying, finish UCC and head to Germany. everything seems less bull**** riddled over there. a country that works and is continuously relied upon by our little country, and others. you know its time to leave when your parents are begging you to get out of your home country and emigrate to have a better life. Ireland....the land of Ire, filled with people who are sheep and afraid to stick their heads above the parapet, and when anyone does? god help them, 'sure you can't be doing that' . from studying irish politics it is very clear what will happen. fianna fail, f ucks things up, coalition government step in, they have no leeway too change things radically and are forced to increase taxes etc to make up for fianna fails mess. people become annoyed with the new governments extra taxation and begin to think, maybe fianna fail werent that bad afterall, they get voted back in...and the vicious cycle starts again. its happened before many times, it WILL happen again.

I'm done,
Auf Wiedersehen.

Drumpot · 27-05-2011 01:20AM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Lovely old rhetoric.

Anyone can put themselves forward for election to Dáil Éireann. Anyone can vote for whoever they wish to vote for relatively sure their votes will not be tampered with. Therefore we have a democracy. What comes of it is irrelevant.

Is democracy not good enough? What new electoral and lawmaking system do you propose?

Anyone can indeed put themselves forward for election. . But without some serious money or a party backing them, they will struggle to spread their word . .

Calling it lovely rhetoric (without explaining exactly why you believe this to be the case) only serves to suggest that you just dont agree with the posters sentiment and are just to lazy to explain why.

Likewise, saying we live in a democratic society ignores the "options" we have as a nation/people in deciding our destiny. People used to be stoned to death and that was under the heading "justice" but most countries have reformed their interpretations of how justice should be best dished out. I think democracy in its current format could certainly do with a fine tuning . .

Kadongy · 27-05-2011 01:24AM

You might consider the possibility that this is satirical.
You probably won't though, I suppose.

Kojak · 27-05-2011 01:24AM

Saila wrote: »

what is it with july and revolutions

US 4th July
FRA 14th July
IRE 16th July

The reason July is so entwined with revolutions is possibly because they are getting their "2 weeks in the sun" at the end of the month and start to get very excited about the smallest things in the lead up to their holidays..

partyatmygaff · 27-05-2011 01:26AM

Drumpot wrote: »

Likewise, saying we live in a democratic society ignores the "options" we have as a nation/people in deciding our destiny. People used to be stoned to death and that was under the heading "justice" but most countries have reformed their interpretations of how justice should be best dished out. I think democracy in its current format could certainly do with a fine tuning . .

Be that as it may suggesting that Ireland needs to do a Tahrir II by a few undergraduate socialists wearing V for Vendetta masks (At a guess) to achieve such changes is nonsense.

We do not need liberating from anything. We don't need a revolution.

Drumpot · 27-05-2011 01:29AM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Be that as it may suggesting that Ireland needs to do a Tahrir II by a few undergraduate socialists wearing V for Vendetta masks (At a guess) to achieve such changes is nonsense.

We do not need liberating from anything. We don't need a revolution.

I never said I agree with the masked avengers .. I was just replying to a comment on democracy . .

I think we need a revolution of thinking . .

Drumpot · 27-05-2011 01:29AM

Kadongy wrote: »

You might consider the possibility that this is satirical.
You probably won't though, I suppose.

Thats what happens when you go straight from the political forum to after hours ! !

Killer Wench · 27-05-2011 01:32AM

This really does scream "lack of originality" though.

partyatmygaff · 27-05-2011 01:36AM

Deutschlandfürimmer7 wrote: »

such stereotyping, kudos. post graduate socialists maybe? post graduate neutrals? former democratic people now disgusted with their country?

no, undergraduate socialists in masks, pfft

People disgusted with their country such as those in Egypt did not rely on gimmicks. They did not make Facebook pages planning revolutions two months in advance.

They just acted.

Apparently we're having a revolution on the 16th of July...

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