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Parents decide to bring up "genderless" child

  • 25-05-2011 10:32PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,439 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Wtf is wrong with some people?? Is there some competition going on for the weirdest way to bring up a child nowadays? Idiots like this are whats wrong with the world today. Damn hipsters!!
    For most of us, as soon as a pregnancy is announced, the gender guessing game begins. And while some like to keep the sex of their baby a secret until the child is born, one couple has taken a decidedly different approach on revealing the sex of their offspring.
    A Canadian couple from Toronto have decided to keep the gender of their four-month-old baby a secret in order to raise what they call a 'genderless' child. Storm will be raised as neither a boy nor girl and will choose a sex when he or she grows up.
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    Kathy Witterick and David Stocker have only revealed Storm’s gender to close members of the family, including their two young sons, one friend and the midwives who delivered the child.

    After Storm was born on New Year’s Day, the parents sent out an email to the rest of their friends and loved ones, writing: “We’ve decided not to share Storm’s sex - a tribute to choice in a place of limitation, a stand up to what the world could become in Storm’s lifetime ( a more progressive place?...).”

    The couple told the Toronto Star about the flood of unsupportive comments they have received. Friends expressed their fears of how Storm’s genderless nature would make the child vulnerable to bullying in the future. Another concern was that they thought the couple were actually taking away the newborn’s right to choice, by forcing their own ideology on the tot.

    Defending their decision, Kathy said, “With the baby, even the people who love the most and know you intimately, the first question they ask is, ‘“Is it a girl or a boy?”’ David added, “If you really want to get to know someone, you don’t ask what’s between their legs.’

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    Kathy and David feel strongly about releasing their children from the constraints that society poses on males and females and want them to make their own decisions about how they act and look.

    Their sons Jazz, five, and Kio, two, have the freedom to dress themselves and decide when they want to cut their hair. Kio’s favourite colour is purple and older sibling Jazz has long hair, he likes pink.

    After being mistaken for a girl and home schooled because of how people would, “immediately react with Jazz over his gender” the couple decided to raise Storm genderless

    http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/family-parenting/meet-the-parents-who-are-raising-a-genderless-baby-blog-90-yahoo-lifestyles.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    Will it not know? Kind of... obvious, is it not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    I am normally supportive of other people's parenting choices, but this sounds like a form of child abuse to me. Kids need identities and boundaries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭Floodric


    It'll know for itself by the time its 5.

    Also, calling it "it" isn't very nice. The parents didnt think of that one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    the first question they ask is, ‘“Is it a girl or a boy?”’ David added, “If you really want to get to know someone, you don’t ask what’s between their legs.’

    If you want to know if it's a boy or a girl what's between their legs in generally a good indication. Most people aren't that interested in 2 month old kids political opinion hence "Is it a girl or a boy?".

    Just saying.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    The fact that they named the child Storm is worse if you ask me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    What are they smoking, because it's super-easy to smoke weed in Toronto, and come up with the most ass-backward ideas you've ever heard of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    Floodric wrote: »
    It'll know for itself by the time its 5.

    Also, calling it "it" isn't very nice. The parents didnt think of that one

    Better than (s)he, optional hermaphrodite, boygirl...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    What are they going to do when his balls drop or her fanny opens and they start jerking off to squirt porn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Sick!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    The fact that they named the child Storm is worse if you ask me.

    Along with Jazz and Kio. Those kids will be free to make their choices alright and the first free choice will be to hate their parents, closely followed by executing a deed poll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    We got another home schooler in the making. They'll be drinking nettle soup and pumpkin wine on their 40th birthday


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    When it gets to the age of five they'll give it a play school book called "I'm a hermaphrodite, and it's OK"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Did mammy and daddy decide what they themselves wanted to be? Obviously yes regarding ditching common sense.
    Why did such a ****ed up couple think it would be a good idea to breed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Do these people honestly believe gender is a choice?

    Can someone hit them in the face with a primary school biology book please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭shadowninty


    freaks

    lousy on kid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    As far as I understand modern sociological literature, everything is culturally defined except homosexuality which is totally genetic and anybody who believes anything else is a thought criminal.

    This is rubbish, and - whats more has been tried before - and nature will out.

    (There are some genuine genetic transgenders, but that is not what we are talking about here)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Genderless? One of the first things the child will become aware of is that their is a Mammy and a Daddy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    When I have a son he will like manly sports and playing guns dammit! (can you believe I know parents who don't let their kids do that? When I was young a friend was not allowed play cowboys and Indians ffs)

    Stupid hippy parents are gonna fcuk their kids up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭I_am_LOST


    I feel so sorry for the kid :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    Well at least they were nice enough to name the kid after one of the X-Men :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭Floodric


    Its not genderless. Its just ignorance of the gender. You don't choose what you come out as. By all means go nuts (No pun intended) and chop off/stick on whatever bits when you're older.
    All thats gonna happen is bullying from other kids. can you imagine a room fulla boys and girls, and theres one "Thing" in the corner. Who are they gonna pick on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I for one applaud the parents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    It's the usual bull**** about gender neutrality. Residue left over from radical feminism's attempts to portray all feminine traits as being a result of conditioning and nothing to do with nature and that it is society alone that is responsible for gender roles. All hogwash of course, but unfortunately there are many around today who still believe that to be the case.

    I think we would all agree that the gender stereotyping of toys can have some negative effects, but this gender neutrality stuff a joke, it's the result of Feminist dogma, nothing more and nothing less. Boys are boys and girls are girls. Raising children "genderless" is child abuse as far as I'm concerned.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Links234 wrote: »
    I for one applaud the parents.

    I don't want to point a finger at you, or back you into a corner or anything of that nature, but am I right in thinking that you had/have gender-identity issues? Would you wish that on the child when it could be avoided?

    Apologies if I've remembered incorrectly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭JCDUB


    Their kids are called Kio, Jazz and Storm, enough said...


    I fucking hate the way parents are so depressed with their own miserable shitehawk existance that they try to fúck things up for their kids too.

    Attention seeking wankers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,439 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Links234 wrote: »
    I for one applaud the parents.

    Well I think you'd be in the minority. Would you really want to do that to a child? By all means let them make their own decisions as they get older but your job as a parent is to protect them and these parents are doing the exact opposite.
    Their forcing this on the child and putting him/her up for serious bullying/mental torment. You of all people should understand this.
    This, in my opinion, is worse than a parent forcing a gay child to be heterosexual or "normal". They're teaching the child that not having a gender is "normal" when it clearly isn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Links234 wrote: »
    I for one applaud the parents.

    Couldn't agree more. The child will be free of gender stereotypes and free to be straight, gay, bi or anything else without the pressures of having to conform to what society expects of them. At least that way when they're growing up and if it does transpire that they're gay etc there's no big dramarama for them in "coming out" and if they're straight it's business as usual and they'll do their own thing. A persons sexuality shouldn't define them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    This definitely has to be child abuse. I mean the government can step in a refuse to let you name your child something stupid (anyone remember "Talula Does the Hula from Hawaii" Those parents lost custody!

    Simple gender related things-

    * Toilets are for males and females, no inbetween
    * Application forms. Especially government ones.
    * When a teacher says ok lets split up, girls on the left, boys on the right.
    * GENITALS!
    * pronouns. The child would have to b referred to as "it"

    That's all off the top of my head. I think it's ridiculous. The bullying here will be immense.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    TheZohan wrote: »
    A persons sexuality shouldn't define them.

    Indeed, but sexuality is only one aspect of gender. A big part, but still only one part.


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