Mark Simpson BBC journalist - Anti-Irish?

mike65 · 24-05-2011 08:56PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

well he is badly informed - he is quoited on one of his tweets as saying
that Dublin's population is 500,000 , now forgive me but as the bbc jurno on site as it were you would think he would at least get that right ???

wiki says

The population of the administrative area controlled by the City Council was 505739 in the 2006 census

Ergo he is right, obviously he is also "wrong" as what people call Dublin includes other areas not within DCC administration.

CSO says County Dublin 1,187,176 which is broken down as

Dublin City 506,211
Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown 194,038
Fingal 239,992
South Dublin 246,935

lima · 24-05-2011 08:57PM

thereitisgone wrote: »

Sorry dont get this at all, what do you think he wrote was anti-irish or untrue. Please quote so we can see exactly where he is not telling the truth.

Never said he says untrue things

He mentions more of the bad things going on in Ireland than the good ones:

Quotes from Twatter:

'Aviva stadium in Dublin at kick-off looks like the sporting equivalent of a ghost estate'

'Economic theme to NI fans chants in Dublin to Republic fans - "Where's your Tiger gone?"'

"'Ask not what Ireland can do for Obama, but what Obama can do for Ireland' said one Dublin politician. US tourists badly needed."

Badgermonkey · 24-05-2011 08:57PM

He does not compare favourably with former Ireland correspondent Dennis Murray or Mark Davenport in NI.

His delivery is a touch too Sky News imo.

Reference to his religion's a bit odd tbh OP and nothing from his tweets or Obama report strikes me as anti-Irish.

cml387 · 24-05-2011 08:57PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

super LOL - so a so called professional juro gets his facts from wiki ????

ok now i really dont like him

Ah,but where do you get your facts from?

tim_holsters · 24-05-2011 08:58PM

Nothing wrong with Simpson's Obama piece.

If you love Ireland so much OP WTF aren't you living here?

lima · 24-05-2011 09:00PM

Pauleta wrote: »

Why does his religion matter? and how do you know what church he attends on a weeky basis? :eek:

His religion shows that he is most likely a unionist and therefore his views are probably going to be skewed by hostility towards Ireland

tim_holsters · 24-05-2011 09:03PM

lima wrote: »

His religion shows that he is most likely a unionist and therefore his views are probably going to be skewed by hostility towards Ireland

I feel hostile to you're idiocy.

Aldebaran · 24-05-2011 09:04PM

An Ghaeilge cac wrote: »

I hate all religions, but Catholicism is the most downright repugnant, morally bankrupt cancer that ever infested this planet!

Including that one that likes to fly planes into buildings?

mike65 · 24-05-2011 09:04PM

Ah that explains everything :rolleyes:

HappyTuesday · 24-05-2011 09:05PM

Seems like a bit of a nob alright.

Washington Irving · 24-05-2011 09:05PM

Something like this, is he?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJyhL-m31-I

(yes, I realise thats Skye news, not BBC)

OutlawPete · 24-05-2011 09:06PM

Wtf!

This Tweet from him about Moneygall has a link to a topless girl for no reason

lima · 24-05-2011 09:08PM

tim_holsters wrote: »

I feel hostile to you're idiocy.

Good one.

thereitisgone · 24-05-2011 09:08PM

lima wrote: »

Never said he says untrue things

He mentions more of the bad things going on in Ireland than the good ones:

Quotes from Twatter:

'Aviva stadium in Dublin at kick-off looks like the sporting equivalent of a ghost estate'

'Economic theme to NI fans chants in Dublin to Republic fans - "Where's your Tiger gone?"'

"'Ask not what Ireland can do for Obama, but what Obama can do for Ireland' said one Dublin politician. US tourists badly needed."

So now you agree we are castigating a journalist for telling the truth.

lima · 24-05-2011 09:11PM

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

Not sure to be honest. Quote some of your best examples.

In his Obama Visit article (however I realise this was posted in the USA/Canada section of the BBC website:

"It also allowed him to woo the 37m Irish-Americans back home who are wondering where their vote will go in next year's presidential election." - assuming the only reason for Obama's visit was for the American-Irish vote

"What happened next was the most predictable event in Ireland since Jedward were picked to represent the country in the recent Eurovision Song Contest." - Bringing up those ejits so as to ridicule Ireland

""I just want you to know that the President pays his bar tab," he announced. It is just as well. Ireland needs all the money it can get." - Saying that we are desperate for money, even the price of a pint will help - very patronising in my opinion.

"Ireland is going through a four-year austerity programme, in order to start to pay back its 85bn euros international bail-out.
The visit of the American president this week - and the Queen last week - may pave the way for more inward investment. They will almost certainly lead to a tourism boost.
However, the road to recovery for the Irish economy is going to be a bumpy one.
The immediate priority for the Dublin government is to negotiate a lower interest rate for their bail-out, and ensure that they resist European efforts to force them to raise corporation tax.
It is not clear whether they will succeed"
- what is the point of mentioning this?? This is just bringing up bad news for the sake of it.

"After two years of economic meltdown, the VIP visits have got many Irish eyes smiling again." - 'Irish Eyes Smiling' - making us out to be stupidly gullible in that we now think everything will be ok.

My name is URL · 24-05-2011 09:11PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Wtf!

This Tweet from him about Moneygall has a link to a topless girl for no reason

There's another in her album where she's flickin' the bean too.. Better than any golden ticket

mike65 · 24-05-2011 09:11PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Wtf!

This Tweet from him about Moneygall has a link to a topless girl for no reason

Looks like the OP has hacked his account! That or he is about to be sacked.

Badgermonkey · 24-05-2011 09:12PM

lima wrote: »

His religion shows that he is most likely a unionist and therefore his views are probably going to be skewed by hostility towards Ireland

See you've given this some thought, good man.

dj jarvis · 24-05-2011 09:17PM

mike65 wrote: »

wiki says

Ergo he is right, obviously he is also "wrong" as what people call Dublin includes other areas not within DCC administration.

CSO says County Dublin 1,187,176 which is broken down as

Dublin City 506,211
Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown 194,038
Fingal 239,992
South Dublin 246,935

when quoting the population of capital city for people who dont come from that city you NEVER break it down , you give the total and move on

thats just a mad answer , you may be right factually but in real world your just out of the ball park

in my opinion he is giving misleading facts and should be flogged publicly

Kevin Duffy · 24-05-2011 09:17PM

lima wrote: »

In his Obama Visit article (however I realise this was posted in the USA/Canada section of the BBC website:

"It also allowed him to woo the 37m Irish-Americans back home who are wondering where their vote will go in next year's presidential election." - assuming the only reason for Obama's visit was for the American-Irish vote

"What happened next was the most predictable event in Ireland since Jedward were picked to represent the country in the recent Eurovision Song Contest." - Bringing up those ejits so as to ridicule Ireland

""I just want you to know that the President pays his bar tab," he announced. It is just as well. Ireland needs all the money it can get." - Saying that we are desperate for money, even the price of a pint will help - very patronising in my opinion.

"Ireland is going through a four-year austerity programme, in order to start to pay back its 85bn euros international bail-out.
The visit of the American president this week - and the Queen last week - may pave the way for more inward investment. They will almost certainly lead to a tourism boost.
However, the road to recovery for the Irish economy is going to be a bumpy one.
The immediate priority for the Dublin government is to negotiate a lower interest rate for their bail-out, and ensure that they resist European efforts to force them to raise corporation tax.
It is not clear whether they will succeed"
- what is the point of mentioning this?? This is just bringing up bad news for the sake of it.

"After two years of economic meltdown, the VIP visits have got many Irish eyes smiling again." - 'Irish Eyes Smiling' - making us out to be stupidly gullible in that we now think everything will be ok.

That's kinda stretching to be offended and there is some element of truth in most of it. We are financially fúcked, we could do with tourism and direct investment and his comment about the Irish-American votes doesn't say he thinks that's the only reason for the visit, that's your spin it seems very, very likely it is part of the re-election bid. And why not.

dj jarvis · 24-05-2011 09:18PM

cml387 wrote: »

Ah,but where do you get your facts from?

fact'r'us

off capel st , down the lane that smells of shame

lima · 24-05-2011 09:20PM

tim_holsters wrote: »

Nothing wrong with Simpson's Obama piece.

If you love Ireland so much OP WTF aren't you living here?

Can't get a bleedin' job back home, least I'm not costing the state anything

OutlawPete · 24-05-2011 09:20PM

mike65 wrote: »

Looks like the OP has hacked his account! That or he is about to be sacked.

Could be quite a bit of compo in it for her, as her Twitter page is private and a high profile BBC Journalist has linked to a topless photo of her on one of the busiest sites in the world. Hhmm, maybe someone should Tweet her and let her know of her predicament.

Which it was a topless pic of me

lima · 24-05-2011 09:22PM

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

That's kinda stretching to be offended and there is some element of truth in most of it. We are financially fúcked, we could do with tourism and direct investment and his comment about the Irish-American votes doesn't say he thinks that's the only reason for the visit, that's your spin it seems very, very likely it is part of the re-election bid. And why not.

Yeah it is all true but he didn't have to mention it, surely one can report optimistically about Ireland, at least once in a while.. he never does

lima · 24-05-2011 09:28PM

Saul-Goode9 wrote: »

Something like this, is he?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJyhL-m31-I

(yes, I realise thats Skye news, not BBC)

That is brilliant

Duckworth_Luas · 24-05-2011 09:28PM

lima wrote: »

Quotes from Twatter:

"'Ask not what Ireland can do for Obama, but what Obama can do for Ireland' said one Dublin politician. US tourists badly needed."

Can't say I've ever heard of the guy as I don't like the general delivery of BBC news. Do they think the general British population are children? Watch RTE, Sky, France 24 and some US reports carried by Sky.

However, the above quote by the BBC correspondent is the kind of print journalism that drives me around the bend.

ejmaztec · 24-05-2011 09:30PM

lima wrote: »

This guys been on my nerves quite a while, ever since Ireland hit the news with the bailout stuff.. he is the Ireland correspondant for BBC and clearly seems to have it in for Ireland. A lot of things he says seem to have a condescending or patronising tone to them. Why get an anti-Irish, Northern-Irish Protestant to cover Irish news when he clearly is going to be bias?

Check out his Twitter for e.g:
http://twitter.com/#!/BBCMarkSimpson

Here's his 'report' on Omaba in Ireland:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13512988

(not sure where to post this - is there a Journalism forum?)

So, where are the links to these patronising and condescending remarks?

I can't see anything on those links that would trigger my persecutionometer.

Pauleta · 24-05-2011 09:34PM

lima wrote: »

His religion shows that he is most likely a unionist and therefore his views are probably going to be skewed by hostility towards Ireland

It seems like you are just hostile to him because you think he is a protestant and get offended by whatever he says. I ask again, how do you know what church he attends on Sundays?

Dionysus · 24-05-2011 09:38PM

An Ghaeilge cac wrote: »

At least protestants don't actively protect paedophiles!

:rolleyes: Kincora Boys' Home, anybody?

Or, for some samples from May 2011 alone, try here, here and here.

lima · 24-05-2011 09:43PM

Pauleta wrote: »

It seems like you are just hostile to him because you think he is a protestant and get offended by whatever he says. I ask again, how do you know what church he attends on Sundays?

No, I just get offended by his way of covering Irish related stories. I am not hostile to him because of his religion, though he appears to be hostile to Ireland.

Mark Simpson BBC journalist - Anti-Irish?

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