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Respect for Pickpockets?

  • 24-05-2011 02:56PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    [Ignore Stupid Title]

    No one doubts the skill involved in the Ocean's 11 styled pickpocket and likewise you can't deny it is theft. However can you make a judgement on them seperately?

    Is it possible to take an amoral stance and respect the skill involved, or does your current moral stance make it impossible to do so?

    Can they be treated seperately? Can you admire one aspect and despise another?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH, you gotta pick a pocket or twoooooooooo.......


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 18,841 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    "Pickpockets' code"?

    Have you lost the plot?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Admire someone for their skills of theft, because they only go after the wealthy?

    The hell...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Scum!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    "Pickpockets' code"?

    Have you lost the plot?

    I'm serious, many do follow such a code. They don't target woman or drunks (those are known as 'bag dippers' and 'lushes' respectively), they don't take anything but money (although I imagine some take cards) and they only target men who look like they've money.

    The ones who work this way are known as 'Canons'.

    Hollywood seems to have embraced pickpocketing as a sort of respectable lifestyle, and skillful crime in general (look at any film about Conmen). I'm just curious if anybody shares the opinion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭HazDanz


    Unless the pickpocket community are on a "robin hood" style crusade which I don't know about, I can't say I'm too fond of their activity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭OMG Its EoinD


    Wait did I not go to heaven? and am I being left on earth with a load of pickpockets ? >:(

    stupid rapture......


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 18,841 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Seachmall wrote: »
    I'm serious, many do follow such a code. They don't target woman or drunks (those are known as 'bag dippers' and 'lushes' respectively), they don't take anything but money (although I imagine some take cards) and they only target men who look like they've money.

    The ones who work this way are known as 'Canons'.
    Sounds fantastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Admire someone for their skills of theft, because they only go after the wealthy?

    The hell...

    It' s not even like they give it to the poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    The mind boggles... respect for pickpockets???

    Eh NO! There is no code, how many christmas days were ruined cos some scumbag took someones purse?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Rape their dog, set their children on fire and crucify them for good measure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    So there's noone appreciates the skill?

    Obviously it's theft and I'm not asking anyone to excuse that I'm just wondering if anybody respects the methods, despite the criminality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Scrooge was the miser but Fagan had it down to a fine art

    ''In this world ,one thing counts , in the bank large amounts ,I'm afraid these things don't grow on trees ,you got to pick a pocket or two ''

    ^ my fav musical. Picking pockets is a heinous crime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    All I can say is lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    How did you get mistaken for a pickpocket? Were you playing grab-ass with random wealthy men on Grafton Street or something?


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Francesca Gifted Backbone


    All I can say is lol

    me too, I better stop reading this thread, sitting at my desk laughing away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Is it possible to take an amoral stance and respect the skill involved, or does your current moral stance make it impossible to do so?

    Can they be treated seperately? Can you admire one aspect and despise another?

    I think the original post asked the questions quite clearly, but people just read the title and had decided on an answer. Their valid questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭robby^5


    Seachmall wrote: »
    So there's noone appreciates the skill?

    I dont see why anyone would, they're scumbags and you're deluding yourself thinking that someone who has trained to steal wouldn't steal anything of worth from any person regardless of who they are.

    They aren't robin hoods, they are assholes.

    That said on a school trip to London once one of my classmates was pick-pocketed, he thought it was impressive but without money his trip was pretty much ruined. I guess that was just one of the rogues who dont follow the sacred code though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Is it possible to take an amoral stance and respect the skill involved, or does your current moral stance make it impossible to do so?

    Can they be treated seperately? Can you admire one aspect and despise another?

    I think the original post asked the questions quite clearly, but people just read the title and had decided on an answer. Their valid questions.

    Would you admire an arsonists skills when it comes to setting shit on fire?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭AgileMyth


    Its clearly very skillful. Not a skill I would want though. They're still pure scum.

    The only reason they target men is because its easier to lift a wallet out of a pocket than a bag.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    robby^5 wrote: »
    They aren't robin hoods, they're robin innocent people.

    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Would you admire an arsonists skills when it comes to setting shit on fire?

    Does it take skill to set something on fire? I do however admire the skill it takes to build a bomb.

    I don't think those admirations conflict with my moral compass, does it yours?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭nobody3


    Seachmall wrote: »
    I'm serious, many do follow such a code. They don't target woman or drunks (those are known as 'bag dippers' and 'lushes' respectively), they don't take anything but money (although I imagine some take cards) and they only target men who look like they've money.

    The ones who work this way are known as 'Canons'.

    Hollywood seems to have embraced pickpocketing as a sort of respectable lifestyle, and skillful crime in general (look at any film about Conmen). I'm just curious if anybody shares the opinion.

    Rubbish, they're crooks plain and simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    nobody3 wrote: »
    Rubbish, they're crooks plain and simple.

    The world ain't black and white. People have different reasons for doing different things.

    It's easier to demonize anyone who doesn't follow your moral code then understand what and why they do things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I still want to know how you got mistakenly accused of pickpocketing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    Hot-wiring a car is also a skill.

    So is identity theft!

    So is being a wánker banker and fúcking the country over.

    Or being a sly politician, likable enough to get voted in but completely corrupt.

    I appreciate that the people who are best at these things have honed their skills over the years. But i'll never have respect for people who dedicate time and effort into learning how to successfully fúck people over!!! :mad:


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 18,841 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Is it possible to take an amoral stance and respect the skill involved, or does your current moral stance make it impossible to do so?

    Can they be treated seperately? Can you admire one aspect and despise another?

    I think the original post asked the questions quite clearly, but people just read the title and had decided on an answer. Their valid questions.
    Do you also admire drug dealers for their business acumen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Admire someone for their skills of theft, because they only go after the wealthy?

    The hell...

    It' s not even like they give it to the poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    The article that inspired this post,

    http://www.slate.com/id/2286010/
    I think these skills have been tragically lost. You've got to respect the skill of some pickpocket relative to some thug coming up to you with a knife. A knife takes no skill whatsoever. But to lift someone's wallet without them knowing …


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Tell us the story of how you got accused of pickpocketing.

    That'll be way more interesting.


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