Guinness - the only beneficiary of these visits

The Left Hand Of God · 23-05-2011 07:38PM

Dionysus wrote: »

Oh Jesus. :rolleyes:

The GAA has given almost every parish in Ireland something positive. No other organisation in this island comes close to the GAA in terms of its contributuion to health, culture and community in Ireland. You don't like Irish culture, Irish politics, the Irish: we get that. Given that you've made a point of telling us this since you started, it's all rather boring and ignorant at this stage.

In contrast to the GAA, other than alcoholism, domestic abuse and broken families, the same positive contribution to Irish society cannot be said for the British company Guinness. But isn't that the rub: Guinness is a British company and in your mentality it therefore must be defended at all costs.

The GAA also did a good job hiding child abuse. As part of the establishment and upper echelons of parish society.

Pauleta · 23-05-2011 07:40PM

Dionysus wrote: »

Oh Jesus. :rolleyes:

The GAA has given almost every parish in Ireland something positive. No other organisation in this island comes close to the GAA in terms of its contributuion to health, culture and community in Ireland. You don't like Irish culture, Irish politics, the Irish: we get that. Given that you've made a point of telling us this since you started, it's all rather boring and ignorant at this stage.

In contrast to the GAA, other than alcoholism, domestic abuse and broken families, the same positive contribution to Irish society cannot be said for the British company Guinness. But isn't that the rub: Guinness is a British company and in your mentality it therefore must be defended at all costs.

WEEE! WOOOO! WEEEE! WOOOO! WEEEEE! WOOOO!

Run, its the GAA Gestapo!

Dionysus · 23-05-2011 07:42PM

Warper wrote: »

To foreigners Ireland is synonymous with drinking and Guinness is our national drink of choice. It is customory for people to have a pint of Guinness in Ireland. So what?

Yes, let's live up to stereotypes created by drug-dealing British companies like Guinness. :rolleyes:

Cormac Ó Gráda wrote a very informative article about the reality of Guinness in Ireland. It was published in The Irish Times a couple of years ago. You should read it.

Dionysus · 23-05-2011 07:43PM

The Left Hand Of God wrote: »

The GAA also did a good job hiding child abuse. As part of the establishment and upper echelons of parish society.

And your evidence for that is, what precisely, Mr "I read tabloids"?

TaraFoxglove · 23-05-2011 07:44PM

At least Guinness is something lots of Irish people genuinely like, that's something I suppose.

fontanalis · 23-05-2011 07:45PM

Dionysus wrote: »

Yes, let's live up to stereotypes created by drug-dealing British companies like Guinness. :rolleyes:

Cormac Ó Gráda wrote a very informative article about the reality of Guinness in Ireland. It was published in The Irish Times a couple of years ago. You should read it.

The sad thing is too many people have no problem playing up to the stereo type. It's as if drinking to the point of insanity is a p ositive attribute.

Dionysus · 23-05-2011 07:45PM

prinz wrote: »

Or the thousands of people the country over who enjoy the odd pint, without becoming an alcoholic, beating the lard out of a spouse or destroying their family.

Oh how desperately silly of me: it's impossible to be happy without "the odd pint" of escapism.

Nice to see the Guinness corporation has been so concerned with spreading happiness in Ireland, God bless them.

maglite · 23-05-2011 07:47PM

Should have asked for a Bulmers

strobe · 23-05-2011 07:48PM

It's a disgrace Joe, you never see heads of state tasting Champagne when they visit France or Sake when they visit Japan or wine when they visit Chile.... Oh? You sure about that Joe? All of them huh? Promotion of local but internationally known product you say? A way of showing an affinity with the locals? You... you lost me Joe, slow down...

cosmicfart · 23-05-2011 07:49PM

all this talk of Guiness is making me thirsty i must be mad

The Left Hand Of God · 23-05-2011 07:49PM

Dionysus wrote: »

And your evidence for that is, what precisely, Mr "I read tabloids"?

My brothers wife works with "disadvantaged" children. And God bless her even though she upholds her non disclosure stuff as she is a very good person it is not hard to read between the lines.

In fairness if is not a GAA thing but when it comes to parocial ascendency it kind of goes hand in hand.

Dionysus · 23-05-2011 07:52PM

Pauleta wrote: »

WEEE! WOOOO! WEEEE! WOOOO! WEEEEE! WOOOO!

Run, its the GAA Gestapo!

Or rather, in your case it's "run; here's somebody who doesn't share my hatred for Irish culture."

"Gestapo" is very original - mar dhea. You really have fallen out of the gutter of rejected British tabloid stories, haven't you.

Dionysus · 23-05-2011 07:55PM

The Left Hand Of God wrote: »

My brothers wife works with "disadvantaged" children. And God bless her even though she upholds her non disclosure stuff as she is a very good person it is not hard to read between the lines.

In fairness if is not a GAA thing but when it comes to parocial ascendency it kind of goes hand in hand.

Well, then, kindly desist from talking shíte about the GAA covering up child abuse. Next time before you go on a rant against an organisation, have evidence. Otherwise it makes you seem bigoted.

prinz · 23-05-2011 07:55PM

Dionysus wrote: »

Oh how desperately silly of me...

I know. I couldn't believe how silly your posts have been either. I remember the good old days when the G.A.A. turned down the perfidious British Guinness corporations advertising and sponsorship money.

Pauleta · 23-05-2011 07:57PM

Dionysus wrote: »

Or rather, in your case it's "run; here's somebody who doesn't share my hatred for Irish culture."

"Gestapo" is very original - mar dhea. You really have fallen out of the gutter of rejected British tabloid stories, haven't you.

Hatred for Irish Culture?????? You are really sounding like something from Irish branch of the Nazi Party.

Dionysus · 23-05-2011 07:58PM

fontanalis wrote: »

The sad thing is too many people have no problem playing up to the stereo type. It's as if drinking to the point of insanity is a p ositive attribute.

I couldn't agree more. Next time people are looking for genuine signs of Ireland "growing up", they could look at the romantic position alcohol is given in this society.

Drunk/delusional/emotionally unstable people welcoming the Queen of England is not a sign of Ireland "growing up". Far from it.

cosmicfart · 23-05-2011 07:59PM

Leave the black stuff alone FFS it has nothing to do with nazis or the recession ill kick ur as$

fontanalis · 23-05-2011 08:06PM

cosmicfart wrote: »

Leave the black stuff alone FFS it has nothing to do with nazis or the recession ill kick ur as$

Why can't we talk about the Black Stuff, black shirt?

cosmicfart · 23-05-2011 08:08PM

fontanalis wrote: »

Why can't we talk about the Black Stuff, black shirt?

Im Irish not Italian

Dionysus · 23-05-2011 08:10PM

Pauleta wrote: »

Hatred for Irish Culture?????? You are really sounding like something from Irish branch of the Nazi Party.

You really are fixated with the Nazis, as if you were fighting them back in 1934, or 1935, or 1936, or 1937 or 1938, or indeed for most of 1939 - actually, in your particular case, have you ever fought a single Nazi? Well? I know you've read about them in your daily tabloid but...?

Nope. So kindly shut the fuck up with your aspirations to be a British Rambo, or even an ex post facto Brtish version of Hugh O'Flaherty (oops).

PS: Assuming from your passion about Nazism that you personally did have some connection with Nazis, I can only hope you weren't in that unit of British soldiers within the Nazi SS?

prinz · 23-05-2011 08:11PM

Dionysus wrote: »

Drunk/delusional/emotionally unstable people welcoming the Queen of England is not a sign of Ireland "growing up". Far from it.

:pac: Brilliant. So you're pals at GAA HQ, where do they fit in? Drunk, delusional or emotionally unstable? You realise that your posts are the very embodiment of the backward nonsense that the rest of us are leaving behind yes?

Dionysus · 23-05-2011 08:15PM

prinz wrote: »

You realise that your posts are the very embodiment of the backward nonsense that the rest of us are leaving behind yes?

You realise that you're wrong again? I doubt it, but alas we can hope that some day you'll get over your rather juvenile need to have an intensity of feeling in a populist framework. And, while I'm at it, it's dreadfully nice of you to take it upon yourself to speak for "the rest of us".

prinz · 23-05-2011 08:17PM

Dionysus wrote: »

And, while I'm at it, it's dreadfully nice of you to take it upon yourself to speak for "the rest of us".

I thought you'd appreciate it since you've done it plenty of times already on this thread.

Dionysus · 23-05-2011 08:19PM

prinz wrote: »

:pac: Brilliant. So you're pals at GAA HQ...

Perhaps we could lay off "the black stuff" (to use a neat little phrase from a Guinness advert in the 1930s)?

Big Nasty · 23-05-2011 08:19PM

Guinness is Irish and one of our best known exports.

I don't see the problem.

hsbc · 23-05-2011 08:19PM

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

Like some people, I wasn't too fussed about these visits. I didn't see and still haven't seen how they will benefit us as a nation.

But what amazes me is how exposed the Guinness brand has become. The drink played a massive part in both the visits of the British and US head's of state, with the former visiting the Storehouse and the latter mixing it up with the lick-arses down in Moneygall.

The Guinness executives must be jizzing in their jocks at this. Truly remarkable advertising for the Guinness brand, which no amount of money could buy. (in before the "dem immigants, we hadte pay 30 millyinz for that, fuppin ginnizz...blah blah the guvement").

People love giving out. Cop on and just enjoy the occasion.

The Left Hand Of God · 23-05-2011 08:20PM

Dionysus wrote: »

Well, then, kindly desist from talking shíte about the GAA covering up child abuse. Next time before you go on a rant against an organisation, have evidence. Otherwise it makes you seem bigoted.

By GAA thing I meant not the organisation but by GAA thing I meant some of its senior members in the parochial sense.

Bit like its not all the priests, just some.

But the hierarchy will make decisions to protect the few to protect the greater. Not unlike the church.

The Waltzing Consumer · 23-05-2011 08:20PM

Dionysus wrote: »

I couldn't agree more. Next time people are looking for genuine signs of Ireland "growing up", they could look at the romantic position alcohol is given in this society.

Drunk/delusional/emotionally unstable people welcoming the Queen of England is not a sign of Ireland "growing up". Far from it.

Jesus :rolleyes: the amount of begrudging posters on this site is unreal. Can you not just be quiet if you have the urge to become a killjoy? Are you the guy who sits in the corner at parties or in a bar slagging people as they walk past cause they have fun? Bitter bitter people.

prinz · 23-05-2011 08:20PM

Dionysus wrote: »

Perhaps we could lay off "the black stuff" (to use a neat little phrase from a Guinness advert in the 1930s)?

Yes, quite. Only one problem, I'm not a Guinness drinker. I don't like the stuff.

jt69er · 23-05-2011 08:22PM

WhiteRussian wrote: »

Well actually, the Daily Mail link says the secret service will supply their own keg. It looked like Guinness he drank though had a very white head that was not like the cream coloured head that comes on a Guinness usually. I'd be skeptical as to whether it was actually Guinness

what do you thing it was :rolleyes:

Guinness - the only beneficiary of these visits

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