[CoD MW3] General News and Discussion

For all the bitching that has gone on and still does I guess regarding Black OPs, it delivers on so many levels.

Firstly, Zombies - we have people on here who pretty much play that small portion of the game on its todd.

Secondly, A completely new set of maps with two brand new DLC.

Thirdly, theatre mode which is unprecedented in CoD and an amazing edition... its staggering to think your last 100 odd games are accessible to be viewed from any perspective.

Fourthly, the wager matches - original and great fooking fun.

They fixed the stackable kill-streak nonsense.

Granted it may not look as polished as MW2 (having said that the customisation of guns etc is excellent) or indeed sound as polished, but in terms of what new aspects it brought to the franchise... If MW3 brings even half of that to the table.. I'll be happy..

everlast75 wrote: »

For all the bitching that has gone on and still does I guess regarding Black OPs, it delivers on so many levels.

Firstly, Zombies - we have people on here who pretty much play that small portion of the game on its todd.

Secondly, A completely new set of maps with two brand new DLC.

Thirdly, theatre mode which is unprecedented in CoD and an amazing edition... its staggering to think your last 100 odd games are accessible to be viewed from any perspective.

Fourthly, the wager matches - original and great fooking fun.

They fixed the stackable kill-streak nonsense.

Granted it may not look as polished as MW2 (having said that the customisation of guns etc is excellent) or indeed sound as polished, but in terms of what new aspects it brought to the franchise... If MW3 brings even half of that to the table.. I'll be happy..

I actually agree with all that, like I said I did enjoy Blops briefly I just got tired of it, the maps arent as good as MW2 bar a few like Summit which is by far the best map in the game, its fantastic for any game mode, its Blops' version of Terminal.

I really,really hope they have theatre more in MW3, it'd be amazing. remove the stackable killstreaks as well, the other night in 5 games I got 4 ac-130's from getting a predator missile in each game (ground wars), its ridiculous how easy it is to let air support wreck the other team (unless me or Lee are on the team cos it'll get blown out of the sky before it fires a shot :pac: )

hightower1 wrote: »

I really dont see the issue with stacking killstreaks tbh?
I mean even if you manage the air support its next to always shot down within seconds bar the one match a night when its not. The rest of the time its shot down very quickly so much so the best effect from air support these days is from knowing the majority of he opposition will head to the indoor areas (before its taken out that is)

I'm kind of in the middle about the stackable killstreaks... I played MW2 a while ago, all I had to do was get 5 kills, then I was pretty much guaranteed a harrier then ac-130 from the predator upwards... If you're anyway a decent player, it's no problem to do 2-3 times during a match. It's always fun for me, but not so much for the other team....

Yeah, stackable killstreaks aren't that big an issue. If your team have any sense, they'll switch class the next time they die and shoot the air support down. I'll normally have a Harrier down before it's even flown into position, like.

Unfortunately, most people online are idiots and in it for themselves. hence, making a greater case for playing in teams.

I hope they bring in the ability to cycle thorough killstreaks. For example you have uav, napam and attack helicopter(chopperblock) on. you've earned all of them and you press the down dpad to cycle through them and select the ones you wanna use first.

heres treyfails developers thoughts on it

Well it's more than just a question of if it can be done... The question is also, "Should it be done?" Gameplay balancing..

bull**** I earned those killstreaks let me use them in the order I want.

hightower1 wrote: »

I wouldnt say harriers guarentee your 11th killstreak , from what I see they get shot down 90% of the time after 2 or so kills so I just run pavelow. Even that only gets the full spin out of it around 50% of the time.

I'd like to see stackable kill streaks in mw3 but just a bit more balanced. Harriers (if not shot down) are a bit over powered for a 7 kill streak tbh. Like so much in MW2 stackable killstreaks were a good idea but poorly executed. It seems to make sense with care package / uav / counter uav / sentry gun / pred missile / attack chopper... but then goes off the deep end with harriers, chopper gunner, ac130 etc.

Seems like everything up to attack chopper seems to be fine, not too powerful and definitly relevant to the amount of kills needed but anything higher on the killstreaks are over powered bar the stealth bomber. Perhaps they shouldhave had the stealth bomber @ 9th and bumped the rest up a bit.

As I see it if they had the same balance of kills vs rewards on the killstreaks as they do all the way up to attack chopper in mw3 it'd be a good idea to keep it stackable.

what if it only stacked to a point? like say predator is kept in and airstrike/attack chopper are 6 and 7 kills, but they dont add to the next streak, so if you had predator/attack chopper/ac-130 for agruments sake, the predator could get you an attack chopper but you need gun kills to get the ac-130, best of both worlds really. that or have two tiers of killstreaks (using MW2's as example)

Tier One:
UAV/counter/care package/sentry/predator/airstrike/attack chopper

all contribute to the next highest killstreak you've selected in that tier

Tier Two

harrier/stealth bomber/pavelow/chopper/ac-130/emp/nuke

non stackable, tier one streaks dont contribute only kills you get with guns or equipment.

best of both worlds? you could have 3 tier one stackable or 2 tier one and one tier two but need the kills yourself, an attack chopper or airstike may not change the course of a game, but a chopper gunner certainly can and does

Good ideas there. I think the simplest option taking mw2s killstreaks a an example would simply be to set the more powerful ones higher and space them out better. Having only 4 kills as a gap between harriers adn chopper gunner was a mistake imo.

hightower1 wrote: »

Good ideas there. I think the simplest option taking mw2s killstreaks a an example would simply be to set the more powerful ones higher and space them out better. Having only 4 kills as a gap between harriers adn chopper gunner was a mistake imo.

definitely, especially on a ground war on an open map, you can get 1 or 2 kills alone with the bomb run and then hear the minigun going "bzzzz" "bzzzz" "bzzzz" and theres your chopper in seconds. The last time I got a nuke my harrier got me 13 kills, thats insane that the other team didnt bother shooting it down

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

I'm not having a sly dig. I'm genuine, can't help but laugh at those who think they are a baws on MW2.

To be blunt, I just found it all so comically bizarre how I was the told not to voice my opinions more or less, this despite always being detailed in my responses, because I bashed MW2 too much yet.. I go on to see the same people who typed/thanked those comments to me who continually hate on BOPS. At least I kept my disdain of MW2 to one or two threads, the megabitch and PS3 thread as well. I didn't feel the need to take it to multiple threads like a few here have done.

I don't care if people prefer MW2, I did at one point but now I do not, but the constant nitpicking with BOPS to justify ones reasoning behind going back to the previous game is farcical. I said re: sound and graphics in BOPS, they aren't perfect by any means but I guess you can say I have tunnel vision when I do something and that's the case here. I'm all about the kills, sound and graphics is an after thought.

I know you blame the community for all of MW2 faults, you said that before. That's a cop out! The community are headless chickens who will use any cheap tactic that is present to gain an advantage. It's up to the developer to fix the broken stuff. You're giving too much credit to the mindless numpties = the majority of COD players.

Just want to also state, both MW2 and BOPS are nearly as bad /good as each other IMO. BOPS edges it due to reasons Everlast posted (good post btw).

Anyway, I digress. Just had to point out the double standards is all

good post, both games have their faults, and you're right, the developers need to take a step back and see what can be exploited, if it can, take it out. simple as. giving players a "helping hand" is just encouraging bad/noobish gameplay. we could all stand there and blast the map with noobtubes but thered be no satisfaction in it.

I do agree that Blops improved on a lot of bullsh1t that was in MW2, but then it has its own bullsh1tty streaks and perks as well, but its getting there. I really, really hope whats left of IW makes MW3 work, I see it as the last chance to drag COD as a franchise out of the noob riddled, kiddie game its viewed as by people who play other franchises, not that it stops me enjoying being a COD player.

When you get a good game going with two good teams it cant be beaten as an online experience, where teams are genuinely fighting and holding positions or whatever instead of some clown standing behind a wall sending grenades sailing across to random sides of the map and being rewarded for it with overpowered killstreaks.

Lads, lets be honest. MW3 will not be the perfect game everyone is looking for. I hope it will, but thats nearly impossible.

Even if the game appears amazing and perfect at the start, the bad side of the community (well about 70% of the community) will abuse some cheap function of it. I mean, even if they take out second chance and ghost, something harmless, like flak jacket, will get abused and no one will be able to get grenade kills. Everyone will complain about flak jacket, etc, and it will appear noobish.

I can't wait for MW3, but that's not because i think it will be perfect and fix all off past COD's problems, it's because I want a newer game.

I rage about all of CODs problems constantly, but maybe they have to be there. I mean, if COD was perfect, this forum wouldn't get as much traffic. The COD Megabitch thread trounces the Sunshine And Lollipop thread in post numbers. Why? Because people LOVE to bitch. Myself included.

Every COD in recent years has had a gun/perk that everyone hated, eg Black Ops has Ghost and Second Chance, MW2 had OMA/DC, W@W had mp40 and Jugg. Hell, even COD 4, the game which many considered to be the most balanced and the greatest COD game ever, had Frags x3 and Martyrdom.

What I'm saying is, COD wouldn't be COD if it was the perfect game. As much as I'd like if it was, MW3 won't be perfect. No doubt they'll have some superbitch perk planned to annoy us with, eg Noobtube x100 COD will always have some way to annoy us, and maybe that's the way it's supposed to be. I still will always bitch though

If you want a game to tear you to shreds, while getting you addicted and making you fall in love with it at the same time, thus making you fcuk up your education/love life/occupation, get a COD game.
If you want to stay relaxed while gaming, may i suggest:

senordingdong wrote: »

In fairness, I remember the MW2 trailer, and the BOPS trailer, they weren't awfully reflective of the gameplay but more so of the cut scenes.

theres a lot of stuff in the trailers thats ingame footage though, MW2 doesnt have any cutscenes once the levels begin anyway, allt he stuff in the trailer like the snowmobile, fight in the favela with soap showing the guy out the window and the gulag attack is all ingame footage

Im fooking excited I know this isn't the multiplayer trailer, but we will probably get a sort of feel from it anyways

senordingdong wrote: »

Well, I for one will be waiting for the single player footage.
MW1 had an amazing campaign, utterly brilliant. And a great multiplayer too.

Then MW2 pissed a single player campaign into the snow and made some slight adjustments to the multiplayer.

Don't get me wrong, ill still play the Campaign, its just all I can think of know is the MP. The Campaign is more of a bonus to me