Strauss Kahn resigns. :(

sensibleken · 19-05-2011 04:19PM

southsiderosie wrote: »

I don't get it - what's your point here?

IMF bail out countries right

My name is URL · 19-05-2011 04:20PM

How did they come to the conclusion that he was a flight risk? Did they just base it on the fact that he has money and lives in France?

He has family in the US, and it would not have been in his best interest to skip bail. It all seems very underhanded

Solair · 19-05-2011 04:21PM

My name is URL wrote: »

How did they come to the conclusion that he was a flight risk? Did they just base it on the fact that he has money and lives in France?

He has family in the US, and it would not have been in his best interest to skip bail. It all seems very underhanded

I suppose the court thinks he's enough connections, money and power to evade it if it lets him go.

Morlar · 19-05-2011 04:22PM

pickarooney wrote: »

I think it's a bag of bull**** that anyone should have to spend months in prison before they even go on trial for a crime. I just can't get my head around how anyone can consider that fair.

I think he was arrested on a plane about to leave the jurisdiction. These are serious charges. France not long ago resisted extraditing a french citizen convicted of sex-crimes against a child. I don't understand how anyone could be surprised he is refused bail.

sensibleken · 19-05-2011 04:23PM

couldnt possible steal this joke in good conscience so ....

Badgermonkey wrote: »

He was merely providing a much needed injection of liquidity.

It's what the IMF do.

southsiderosie · 19-05-2011 04:30PM

My name is URL wrote: »

How did they come to the conclusion that he was a flight risk? Did they just base it on the fact that he has money and lives in France?

He has family in the US, and it would not have been in his best interest to skip bail. It all seems very underhanded

He has the means to jump bail, and he was on a plane when they stopped him. No judge in their right mind is going to grant bail under those circumstances.

Also, the Roman Polanski case looms large here. I wonder if he had been British rather than French if there would have been as much concern about flight risk and international cooperation.

Finally, why would it not be in his interests? If he went to France, he would be disgraced, but would not be arrested or extradited.

PrincessLola · 19-05-2011 04:38PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

This reminds me of what happened to Michael Jackson. All someone needs to do is make an accusation and the media immediately presume them guilty and set out on a reputation-destroying smear campaign. It's a sad state of affairs when people's lives can get ruined by a lie.

I wish some of the people on here would show the same kind of sympathy on the McCann thread, but oh no! "the McCann's are deffo murderers because look at their shifty eyes!!11one!"

Dudess · 19-05-2011 05:51PM

Maybe the very same people who think the McCanns are definitely guilty are the same ones who think this guy is definitely guilty.

partyatmygaff · 19-05-2011 06:16PM

Dudess wrote: »

Maybe the very same people who think the McCanns are definitely guilty are the same ones who think this guy is definitely guilty.

They'd also tend to believe that Michael Jackson is guilty of what he was accused of too.

They also tend to believe in conspiracy theories.

The hilarious thing is that certain of them claim to be too intelligent for reading tabloids. Delicious Irony.

donfers · 19-05-2011 06:27PM

southsiderosie wrote: »

Christine Legarde's name (the current French finance minister) is being bandied about as a replacement. She gets on well with Merkel, she is familiar with European finance ministers, and she has good relationships in Washington. The sooner they get a permanent replacement in, the better.

I think the criteria for choosing the new man/woman in charge should not have getting on well with Merkel and having a good relationship with Washington at the top of the list of priorities in terms of what they are looking for, it's that kind of cosy cliquey cronyism that has gotten us into the mess we are in..................simply put, hire the person with the intelligence and economic insights who is best qualified to deal with various economic crises around the world

yes i know the political realities are such that it's necessary at times to buddy up to people you have no time for but I would hope the board of the IMF have the good sense to base their decision first and foremost on the capability of the candidate and not so much on who their friends are or how popular they are with Merkel or in Washington

southsiderosie · 19-05-2011 06:36PM

donfers wrote: »

I think the criteria for choosing the new man/woman in charge should not have getting on well with Merkel and having a good relationship with Washington at the top of the list of priorities in terms of what they are looking for, it's that kind of cosy cliquey cronyism that has gotten us into the mess we are in..................simply put, hire the person with the intelligence and economic insights who is best qualified to deal with various economic crises around the world

yes i know the political realities are such that it's necessary at times to buddy up to people you have no time for but I would hope the board of the IMF have the good sense to base their decision first and foremost on the capability of the candidate and not so much on who their friends are or how popular they are with Merkel or in Washington

Having a good working relationship with Germany is crucial - the IMF has opposed the German approach to a lot of things, and they are ultimately central to any debt restructuring. The position will be reappointed in 2012 anyway, so why not put someone in there who knows the European situation intimately and also has a good relationship with European allies (and a track record of being blunt with the banks)?

My name is URL · 19-05-2011 06:43PM

southsiderosie wrote: »

He has the means to jump bail, and he was on a plane when they stopped him. No judge in their right mind is going to grant bail under those circumstances.

Also, the Roman Polanski case looms large here. I wonder if he had been British rather than French if there would have been as much concern about flight risk and international cooperation.

Finally, why would it not be in his interests? If he went to France, he would be disgraced, but would not be arrested or extradited.

Loads of people are granted conditional bail. If this guy was a known criminal then I could see the reasoning behind refusing him any bail whatsoever, but he isn't, and they could have placed strict restrictions on him until he appeared on trial for the charges he's facing. He could have been placed under house arrest and have an electronic tag put on him.

Bail aside, the fact that the media are basically allowed to portray him as a guilty man before trial is ludicrous. How come reporters are allowed into the courtroom before it's even been established that there is enough evidence to prosecute him? Is there no such thing as prejudice in the US?!

arybvtcw0eolkf · 19-05-2011 06:57PM

Dudess wrote: »

I know it's off-topic and has been asked before, but why do some people post in threads to say they don't care, rather than just ignoring the thread? A tad attention-seeking like...

I don't know Dudess

and I don't care

IvyTheTerrible · 19-05-2011 06:57PM

donfers wrote: »

I think the criteria for choosing the new man/woman in charge should not have getting on well with Merkel and having a good relationship with Washington at the top of the list of priorities in terms of what they are looking for, it's that kind of cosy cliquey cronyism that has gotten us into the mess we are in..................simply put, hire the person with the intelligence and economic insights who is best qualified to deal with various economic crises around the world

yes i know the political realities are such that it's necessary at times to buddy up to people you have no time for but I would hope the board of the IMF have the good sense to base their decision first and foremost on the capability of the candidate and not so much on who their friends are or how popular they are with Merkel or in Washington

I can't see Sarkozy letting Lagarde go in any case, she is one of the strong members of his cabinet and with his popularity at an all time low, he needs her there to help him get re-elected next year.

My name is URL · 19-05-2011 07:17PM

Interesting article here - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28135.htm

[...] Dominique Strauss-Kahn, managing director of the International Monetary Fund, has called for a new world currency that would challenge the dominance of the dollar...

southsiderosie · 19-05-2011 08:16PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Loads of people are granted conditional bail. If this guy was a known criminal then I could see the reasoning behind refusing him any bail whatsoever, but he isn't, and they could have placed strict restrictions on him until he appeared on trial for the charges he's facing. He could have been placed under house arrest and have an electronic tag put on him.

Bail aside, the fact that the media are basically allowed to portray him as a guilty man before trial is ludicrous. How come reporters are allowed into the courtroom before it's even been established that there is enough evidence to prosecute him? Is there no such thing as prejudice in the US?!

He is being treated in a standard way. In jury trials, prejudice is dealt with in juror selection and instructions from the judge. In a bench trial, it is assumed that the judge has enough sense to focus on the evidence and not the media hoopla.

I honestly think if he 1) had not been caught on a plane and 2) was not French citizen that he would have had a much better chance of receiving conditional bail.

bryaner · 19-05-2011 08:55PM

Dudess wrote: »

Maybe the very same people who think the McCanns are definitely guilty are the same ones who think this guy is definitely guilty.

The Mc Canns are guilty, guilty of leaving their kids on their own..

challengemaster · 19-05-2011 08:58PM

I guess you could say.... Strauss Kahn't....

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
:cool:

Thrill · 19-05-2011 09:03PM

Strauss-Kahn Granted Bail

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/strauss-kahn-bail-hearing-20110519

$1 million

hondasam · 23-05-2011 10:19PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1390165/Strauss-Kahns-DNA-dress-New-York-hotel-maid-allegedly-raped.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

An Ghaeilge cac · 23-05-2011 10:22PM

I think Bertie would be a fantastic candidate for this role. :pac:

Son Of A Vidic · 23-05-2011 10:26PM

Has Kahn been executed yet? Surely he can't be still breathing at this stage?

Big Nasty · 24-05-2011 12:54PM

It's his jizz!!!

Nodin · 24-05-2011 01:09PM

hondasam wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1390165/Strauss-Kahns-DNA-dress-New-York-hotel-maid-allegedly-raped.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

I don't know why they keep bringing up him being a womaniser....

hatrickpatrick · 24-05-2011 01:14PM

Nodin wrote: »

I don't know why they keep bringing up him being a womaniser....

Because promiscuity, which is completely legal and frankly is nobody else's f*cking business, is still something society thinks it has a right to comment on.

If you're a man, promiscuity is used in rape cases as a reason you're probably guilty.
If you're a woman, promiscuity is used in rape cases as a reason you most likely consented to it.

Even though in both scenarios, promiscuity or otherwise has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the situation at hand.

Conclusion: F*ck society, f*ck judgemental prudes, and f*ck taboo. They cause more trouble than anything else in this world.

Elle Collins · 24-05-2011 01:18PM

He's a pervert and a rapist who's about to get himself a good long American-style prison sentence - good enough for him.

Nodin · 24-05-2011 01:21PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Because promiscuity, which is completely legal and frankly is nobody else's f*cking business, is still something society thinks it has a right to comment on.

If you're a man, promiscuity is used in rape cases as a reason you're probably guilty.
If you're a woman, promiscuity is used in rape cases as a reason you most likely consented to it.

Even though in both scenarios, promiscuity or otherwise has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the situation at hand.

Conclusion: F*ck society, f*ck judgemental prudes, and f*ck taboo. They cause more trouble than anything else in this world.

True. Occassionally I think the world has progressed rather more than it has.

wes · 24-05-2011 01:42PM

Things are looking bad for Strauss Kahn imho:

Dominique Strauss-Kahn DNA 'linked to maid'

walshb · 24-05-2011 01:48PM

What I would like to know is how these people get to such positions with such
baggage and pasts? Arnie? How the hell did all his antics get swept under the carpet?

seamus · 24-05-2011 01:53PM

wes wrote: »

Things are looking bad for Strauss Kahn imho:

Dominique Strauss-Kahn DNA 'linked to maid'

I don't think he ever denied that an encounter took place tbh. All it proves is that something happened

Strauss Kahn resigns. :(

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