Thinking of faking work experience to reduce gap in employment .....

theonlyking · 17-05-2011 04:14PM #1

Hi, after leaving my last job in december 2008 due to back pain after a car crash I am currently applying for a few jobs. My problem is though I did not reallly leave my last employer on the best of grounds. I have got a written reference from them basically stating i worked there, and left on my own accord . But because of the 2 and 1/2 year work gap i am thinking of faking some work experience.

I have a friend who manages a shop will give me a fake verbal/ written reference but am wondering about possible consequences doing this. I am just trying to reduce the 2 and 1/2 yr work experience gap. I need to know how much i can reduce this gap to without my prospective new employer finding out from my p45 or other tax forms etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks people :-)

Nijmegen · 17-05-2011 04:48PM

Well, when you submit any documentation to them for processing you into your new job it'll indicate either when you really did leave prior employment, or if you were signed on (since when) etc.

You can have a form filled out fresh - if you say you have no P45 - but their payroll people can get info back then on any records revenue have.

theonlyking · 17-05-2011 05:10PM

thanks for the reply

so they will find out im telling porkies if i say i work until say 2009 even and have no p45 ??? wow i thought the year in between would stop anyone ever knowing :mad: thanks again

Elisabeth Blanctorche · 17-05-2011 06:00PM

Nijmegen wrote: »

Well, when you submit any documentation to them for processing you into your new job it'll indicate either when you really did leave prior employment, or if you were signed on (since when) etc.

You can have a form filled out fresh - if you say you have no P45 - but their payroll people can get info back then on any records revenue have.

This is nonsense. Employers can not request personal data such as tax history from revenue. They can just request a certificate of tax credits for the current tax year to know how much PAYE to deduct.

from revenue.ie

6.2 Employer's tax credit certificate

(See sample tax credit certificate in Sample forms)

In addition to issuing an employee tax credit certificate to each employee, (see part 1 above), Revenue also issues a tax credit certificate to the employer.

The employer certificate shows:

* The total amount of the employee's tax credit
* The total amount of the employee's standard rate cut-off point
* The rates of tax payable by the employee
* The employee's previous pay and tax from 1 January, if applicable (see New Employees and Employees Recommencing part 9 )

The employer tax credit certificate also shows where the employee/pensioner is entitled to Tax Exemption and Marginal Relief (see Calculation of Tax Under the PAYE System part 10).

No information regarding the personal circumstances of the employee is disclosed on the employer's certificate. It shows only the total amount of the tax credits and standard rate cut-off point to which the employee is entitled together with the equivalent weekly and monthly figures.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/business/paye/guide/employers-guide-paye-recommencing.html#section9

theonlyking · 18-05-2011 03:46AM

thanks elizabeth...much appreciated .:):):) .. so that would mean if i say to prospective employer that i have worked to say october 2010 , and use a reference from my friend they would not find out from any of my tax certificates??? they will only know about any work done / tax paid for the current year??

swordofislam · 18-05-2011 01:28PM

theonlyking your employer won't have access to your tax records from earlier than January.

leeroybrown · 18-05-2011 01:55PM

The Revenue won't disclose any tax information other than what's on the P45 for the relevant year. If you don't claim any work for 2011 then you won't even need a P45.

Personally I wouldn't fake work experience and if I were your employer I'd likely dismiss you on the spot if I found our you'd lied about work experience on your CV.

swordofislam · 18-05-2011 04:01PM

I would fake work experience but don't pretend that you can do something you've never done.
Your employer would be justified to sack you on the spot if you were caught.

theonlyking · 18-05-2011 05:31PM

Thanks all for the replies people

..you have put my mind at ease ... ive already got a degree and i am just gonna fake some menial delivery work so it looks as though i've been doing something more than sitting around for the past 2 and 1/2 years. Not gonna fake qualifications though . Righteo time to start sending out some cv's . Wish me luck

:D

Jim2007 · 18-05-2011 08:16PM

theonlyking wrote: »

Thanks all for the replies people ..you have put my mind at ease ... ive already got a degree and i am just gonna fake some menial delivery work so it looks as though i've been doing something more than sitting around for the past 2 and 1/2 years. Not gonna fake qualifications though . Righteo time to start sending out some cv's . Wish me luck :D

I have to say I find you course of action to be very foolish! If you start with a new employer on this basis you're going to have to keep that lie up everyday while you work there, you're going to have to watch every word you say in case you slip up and even more, hope that no one you know works there or joins later in case they let slip your lie.....

And of course, you're giving your employer grounds for dismissal should they so wish on discovery!

Think how much worse it will be to try and find a job if you are dismissed for a lie on your application.

Good luck with that,

Jim

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