I'm thinking of becoming a Scientologist

holystungun9 · 15-05-2011 11:58AM

Leeg17 wrote: »

Na na na na na Na na na LEADER

I for one, welcome our Church of Scientology overlords, especially the ones from Azerbaijan.

krudler · 15-05-2011 12:13PM

bnt wrote: »

South Park can lampoon Scientology with impunity, but you won't see even the slightest oblique reference to them on The Simpsons, because Bart would lose his voice. Nancy Cartwright is a long-standing Scientologist, and is currently campaigning for her Scientology-inspired book to be used in Illinois schools. The book, called "Good Choices", is about building "character" in students, but she denies it's an attempt to teach Scientology in schools:

We know how Scientology operates, including the way Hubbard considered it entirely legitimate to cheat and lie to non-Scientologists, as long as it furthers the aims of Scientology. This is how they get things done - but it looks like it's not going to work in this case, thankfully. :rolleyes:

the Leader episode is one massive dig at cults and scientology, although its years old so I'm not sure if Cartright was one back then

mconigol · 15-05-2011 12:16PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

What???

Biggins · 15-05-2011 12:20PM

mconigol wrote: »

What???

He's a fcuking loon, a space cadet without a brain and spaceship.
Pay Cruise no heed. Thankfully more and more people are learning he's off his rocker and subsequently not willing to give up their hard earned money just so that he can give it away to bigger nutjobs, murders and robbers.

mconigol · 15-05-2011 12:27PM

Biggins wrote: »

He's a fcuking loon, a space cadet without a brain and spaceship.
Pay Cruise no heed. Thankfully more and more people are learning he's off his rocker and subsequently not willing to give up their hard earned money just so that he can give it away to bigger nutjobs, murders and robbers.

Oh....I gathered that much!

Feel sorry for his poor wife and kid though.

Biggins · 15-05-2011 12:29PM

mconigol wrote: »

Oh....I gathered that much!

Feel sorry for his poor wife and kid though.

Yea, everywhere they go, there is Scientology 'minders' two steps behind them!

mconigol · 15-05-2011 12:41PM

Biggins wrote: »

Yea, everywhere they go, there is Scientology 'minders' two steps behind them!

That's nice. Looking out for their own like that. Maybe I've misjudged them?

Saila · 15-05-2011 12:41PM

Biggins wrote: »

Yea, everywhere they go, there is Scientology 'minders' two steps behind them!

ah you're stalking has run into a brick wall eh? look at it as a challenge though, chin up my man!

Biggins · 15-05-2011 12:44PM

Saila wrote: »

ah you're stalking has run into a brick wall eh? look at it as a challenge though, chin up my man!

I know.
I'm trying to catch up with them, to hit them with a bottle of "Kop the fcuk on!" but they escape my clutches every time.

Biggins · 15-05-2011 12:45PM

mconigol wrote: »

That's nice. Looking out for their own like that. Maybe I've misjudged them?

No, you haven't.

mconigol · 15-05-2011 12:55PM

Biggins wrote: »

No, you haven't.

I don't know. It would be nice to have a minder.

I get so lonely sometimes.

......wait that's how it starts isn't it!

krudler · 15-05-2011 12:57PM

Biggins wrote: »

He's a fcuking loon, a space cadet without a brain and spaceship.
Pay Cruise no heed. Thankfully more and more people are learning he's off his rocker and subsequently not willing to give up their hard earned money just so that he can give it away to bigger nutjobs, murders and robbers.

and yet I still like him as an actor, and people rarely have a bad word to say about him regarding his behaviour on set, always professional and approachable apparently, mad beliefs aside, its kinda hard to accept famous people you like are kinda crazy, like Mel Gibson, great charm, huge charisma, good actor, mental case.

Biggins · 15-05-2011 01:01PM

krudler wrote: »

and yet I still like him as an actor, and people rarely have a bad word to say about him regarding his behaviour on set, always professional and approachable apparently, mad beliefs aside, its kinda hard to accept famous people you like are kinda crazy, like Mel Gibson, great charm, huge charisma, good actor, mental case.

Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot (to mention just three) were also nice people too supposedly up close and at times.
While the above are in a complete different league as regards their activities, pleasant personality does not mean they are 'solid blokes'.
It just sadly means they are good at window-dressing their oft times nutty ideas and ideologies behind an cover appearance of nice normality.

bnt · 16-05-2011 11:29PM

krudler wrote: »

the Leader episode is one massive dig at cults and scientology, although its years old so I'm not sure if Cartright was one back then

I forgot about that one, though I have seen it. After a little more reading I get the impression that the cults it references are more explicitly "cults" e.g. Jim Jones' outfit. Nancy Cartwright has been a Scientologist since about 1989 (I read), but I doubt she thinks she's in a cult, so I guess she wouldn't see much in that episode to offend her directly. :rolleyes:

According to the author of The Gospel According to the Simpsons (referenced here) another episode was going to spoof Scientology more directly, but it got vetoed, and Matt Groening went on to have a go at them in Futurama (with the "Church of Robotology")

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 16-05-2011 11:51PM

bnt wrote: »

South Park can lampoon Scientology with impunity, but you won't see even the slightest oblique reference to them on The Simpsons, because Bart would lose his voice

Well,south park did loose voice actor of chef who was a scientolgist,simpsons should end for its own sake its so awful now,i felt sorry for the bbc reporter who tried to cover it,9.28 he looses his temper finally-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-rM6vA5BVE

Flukey · 17-05-2011 12:00AM

Typical Scientologist Recruiter: "Did you know that according to Einstein that we only use 10% of our brains?"

Reply: "Yes, and if only 1% of mine worked I'd still know to keep away from you guys."

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Typical Scientologist Recruiter: "Would you like a free personality test?"

Reply: "It's already clean."

Typical Scientologist Recruiter: "Pardon?"

Reply: "My brain; so I don't need it washed by you!"

Griffen262 · 17-05-2011 12:03AM

Ara sure, They're a great bunch of lads all the same..

LighterGuy · 17-05-2011 12:12AM

Now I am normally one to respect the beliefs of others. As who the hell am I to say otherwise...

However, with facts things change. Scientology was founded by a science fiction writer who was once arrested for fraud. Religion and fraud seem to be two words that match together in the current world we live in.

But to dig deeper into their beliefs about aliens and "our souls" I can without a doubt say this "religion" is a cult. Nothing more, nothing less. Albeit a powerful cult you'll sue you for anything negitive you say against them.

LighterGuy · 17-05-2011 12:54AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

The only real difference between scientology and most other religions is it's new and people can see that the people who started it are scammers/idiots/both.

They're all cults IMO.

Thats the thing.
Because its new anyone with any sense can see through it.
As for "established" religions... well, who am I or anyone else to dispute someone elses beliefs. Even if the same logic can be applied.

Chad ghostal · 17-05-2011 12:55AM

probably not the place to post it, but thought this was very interesting:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright?currentPage=all

It's Paul Haggis's (Writer/Director - crash, the next three days, million dollar baby etc) account of his time as a Scientologist.
It gives the reasons people are attracted to it, as well as the bad stuff everybody hears about..

Saila · 17-05-2011 01:30AM

Im going to start my own religion now, bolloxology it will be called just so you know what you're getting up front

Capt'n Midnight · 17-05-2011 01:39AM

I could point out stuff in their sacred writings, but they use copyright and lawyers.

The circuit diagrams of the meter things have been posted on the interweb

As that crap about using x% of your brain, biologically speaking our brain is expensive to run it's actually a burden that evolution would select against unless it conveyed some survival advantage.

Strange that in the last 500,000,000 years no creature has been able to fully utilise their brains OR it's only humans that can't

Have a look at the Selfosophy episode of Millenium too