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Israel murder 12 people throwing stones

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    Mark27 wrote: »
    And they believe they were promised the land by god

    I hold the view God promised me a nice gaff in Foxrock and a BMW 7 series. What does that entitle me to though? Absolutely fúcking nothing which is how it should be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    cookies221 wrote: »
    Fair point. But why don't you ever criticise any Arab countries that slaughter civilians? An Israel bashing thread turns up and you're all over it like a rash. Are you aware of the current events in Libya?

    Yes I am, and I supported the intervention in Libya, and questioned why there was no intervention in Syria here.

    Syria and Libya's atrocities are internal. Israel's atrocities are much further-reaching as there are issues such as territorial disputes, and blockades of legitimate aid and food - on top of the mass murder of civilians that is also seen in Syria and Libya. I support intervention in all of the 3 conflicts, Libya, Syria and Israel. So I'd gladly see the UN go in and bitchslap all three of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭cookies221


    So why did you say " I wish the Irish would mind their own business" & "They stayed silent during the holocaust"

    How about you address my points instead of engaging in semantics and insulting me...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭cookies221


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I support intervention in all of the 3 conflicts, Libya, Syria and Israel. So I'd gladly see the UN go in and bitchslap all three of them.

    We're in agreement then. Let's not single one country/race out and label them as the root of all evil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    cookies221 wrote: »
    Are you referring to Eoin O'Malley's Blueshirt facists? I thought you pinkos were against all that?

    For somebody so easily upset by ad hominem attacks, you don't mind making them do you? Actually, I was referring to the men who signed up with foreign forces and assisted in - amongst other things - the liberation of Jews, Slavs, Poles, Russians, blacks, Romani, the disabled, the mentally ill, the dissidents, the intellectuals and all the other victims in concentration camps. I suspect you already knew that, though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    In fairness I do not think that anyone can argue with the fact that Israel treats the Palestinian's criminally and that more than a few could be charged with war crimes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭CrackisWhack


    cookies221 wrote: »
    We're in agreement then. Let's not single one country/race out and label them as the root of all evil.

    And lets not qoute posters, claiming they said things, which they did not, whilst also claiming there is an anti-semitic tone to their argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭dublincelt


    cookies221 wrote: »
    Ah, the classic cop-out. Again I repeat - you don't care about the hundreds dying from state sponsored violence in Libya, Syria, Qatar etc because it doesn't fit with your lefty agenda. But anytime a Palestinian dies you're quick to denounce the whole nation of Israel as scum and evil. Why is Israel so special? Surely you can understand why this lends itself to cries of anti-semitism.

    I wish the Irish would mind their own business. They were happy to stay silent during the Holocaust. And also when their Irish brethren were being denied their human rights in Northern Ireland in the 1960s, leaving a vaccuum for terrorist groups like the IRA to form to come to their defence instead.

    71 posts, hmmm, and the first rule of the Zionist apologist Handbook: Deflect attention from the issue at hand and mention a subtle reference to Anti-Semitism.

    That, my Terrorist State loving friend is THE "classic cop-out"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    Close friend of mine from Tyre was there, haven't heard from her yet though which is weird and has me quite worried. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭CrackisWhack


    cookies221 wrote: »
    How about you address my points instead of engaging in semantics and insulting me...


    Go back over your own posts, and count how many times you tried to insult me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Wild_Dogger


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Yes I am, and I supported the intervention in Libya, and questioned why there was no intervention in Syria here.

    Syria and Libya's atrocities are internal. Israel's atrocities are much further-reaching as there are issues such as territorial disputes, and blockades of legitimate aid and food - on top of the mass murder of civilians that is also seen in Syria and Libya. I support intervention in all of the 3 conflicts, Libya, Syria and Israel. So I'd gladly see the UN go in and bitchslap all three of them.


    Why does everybody forget Yemen ?
    They may be military allies of the USA , but why do the media turn a blind eye to this country .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    In fairness I do not think that anyone can argue with the fact that Israel treats the Palestinian's criminally and that more than a few could be charged with war crimes



    I agree. How a nation that suffered so much at the hands of the Nazis can now treat another nation so terribly is nothing short of shocking. You would think that they would have learned something from their own suffering that would prevent them from carrying out atrocities against another people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Wild_Dogger


    convicted Abusers were often abused themselves as children .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Go Israel! Fcuk the begrudgers.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    Nodin wrote: »
    "pinko"....not ad hominem, I suppose?

    I think Cookies has been asked to address this around 5 times, if not more, on this thread, and conveniently hasn't bothered to respond.

    There will also be no reference to the poster (dlofnep) who contradicted her claim about who the alleged 'pinkos' didn't post about the arab uprisings.

    The compromise solution to this situation is getting less and less likely as the years pass, ie, a secular, democratic state that is neither Jewish or Muslim. This isn't in Israel's interest (especially if the current population trends in favour of Muslims continue), and the lurch to Hamas in recent years means that you have a party there with not interest in this either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭thisguy


    cookies221 wrote: »
    Ah, the classic cop-out. Again I repeat - you don't care about the hundreds dying from state sponsored violence in Libya, Syria, Qatar etc because it doesn't fit with your lefty agenda.

    can you not explain what you mean by lefty agenda cookies221? You have been directly asked this on three occassions and havent responded. Speaking for myself I know I have no agenda, I'm just disgusted by the actions of Israel as it has such a disregard for human life, and a history of this kind of disproportionate action.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    cookies221 wrote: »
    We're in agreement then. Let's not single one country/race out and label them as the root of all evil.

    I never once singled out a country or race and labelled them as the root of all evil. So I'm unsure where your basis for this comment is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Go Israel! Fcuk the begrudgers.:D

    You're confusing begrudging a nation and criticising it. Way to go for championing the mindless slaughter of a bunch of kids throwing a few stones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭CrackisWhack


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I never once singled out a country or race and labelled them as the root of all evil. So I'm unsure where your basis for this comment is.


    Read over some of the accusations she made against me, mad as a hatter:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    The compromise solution to this situation is getting less and less likely as the years pass, ie, a secular, democratic state that is neither Jewish or Muslim. This isn't in Israel's interest (especially if the current population trends in favour of Muslims continue), and the lurch to Hamas in recent years means that you have a party there with not interest in this either.

    There's a lot of talk about both the EU (and even the US) recognising a Palestinian state shortly. That will put Israel in a very difficult situation, effectively ending the utility of the US veto to support them and forcing sanctions upon them if they don't begin to act within international law. We'll see.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭CrackisWhack


    JohnathanM wrote: »
    There's a lot of talk about both the EU (and even the US) recognising a Palestinian state shortly. That will put Israel in a very difficult situation, effectively ending the utility of the US veto to support them and forcing sanctions upon them if they don't begin to act within international law. We'll see.


    It's bound to happen at some point in the future, the pressure on world leaders with regards to this issue, is increasing year after year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    JohnathanM wrote: »
    There's a lot of talk about both the EU (and even the US) recognising a Palestinian state shortly. That will put Israel in a very difficult situation, effectively ending the utility of the US veto to support them and forcing sanctions upon them if they don't begin to act within international law. We'll see.

    By November as I understand it. Israel will object of course, but the world just needs to move forward and get it done already so we can move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    Live ammunition being fired at unarmed protesters in front of the Israeli embassy in cairo. One man has been shot in the head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭CrackisWhack


    Live ammunition being fired at unarmed protesters in front of the Israeli embassy in cairo. One man has been shot in the head.


    source?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    source?

    Edwin is a great source for collecting news on the arab world on twitter http://twitter.com/#!/EJvS_nl

    It seems to be madness in cairo again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    It just sickens me that the Jews carry out such atrocities and show so little regard for life.

    That's all.

    Carry on.

    They're not carrying them out because they are Jews. It's the IDF not the JDF. Their motives are probably more nationalistic than religious.

    I condem the killings btw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    They're not carrying them out because they are Jews. It's the IDF not the JDF. Their motives are probably more nationalistic than religious.

    I condem the killings btw.

    Fair enough.

    Your user name would suggest that you would be totally anti-Israeli I would have thought!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    Israel is special, a friend of the USA, a persecuted, poor nation of cheery dancing peasants, rosy cheeked women and adorable dark haired kids, weaving simple rugs to sell in rustic markets. A more benign, opressed but happy, benevolent nation you could never find. It is beset on all sides by those who seek to do her down, pervert her children and rape her women, kill her cheery rug making menfolk who wish nothing more than a quiet life filled with the laughter of children and a merry dance to the keen of a well played fiddle. How can all of you anti-semitic basterds not support Israel?? Has 40 years of Hollywood schlock not given you all the correct view yet?

    some, none or all of the above may not be totally accurate. Anybody disagreeing with the above is a total Nazi and anti-semite. Israel may or may not be as portrayed, but no claims to the contrary will be accepted unless accompanied by a valid chunk of a blue moon, four ring pulls from cans of unicorn piss and a fully paid up membership card from the freemasons of Narnia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Incursion???

    It was a peaceful protest.

    I'm home gentlemen... Right down to business.

    What was a peaceful protest?.. (since you quoted me).

    I don't think you've ever seen what Israel's border fence looks like have you?.

    As for peaceful protests at them, I've never seen one.

    But thats just me, maybe you have?.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I'm home gentlemen... Right down to business.

    What was a peaceful protest?.. (since you quoted me).

    I don't think you've ever seen what Israel's border fence looks like have you?.

    As for peaceful protests at them, I've never seen one.

    But thats just me, maybe you have?.

    You're surely not justifying using live rounds on kids throwing stones, right?


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