Gaelscoils

deise go deo · 15-05-2011 08:19PM #1

There is a lot of demand for places in Gaelscoils around the country, some new ones will be opening this September and there are campaigns ongoing in several places in the country for a new Gaelscoil to be opened.

What do you think of them?

orourkeda · 15-05-2011 08:21PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY

jam_mac_jam · 15-05-2011 08:21PM

I think its a great idea, much better way of teaching children a language. I am not great at Irish myself so its good to see things changing and more children being able to speak it.

orourkeda · 15-05-2011 08:22PM

waste of time, effort and money

deise go deo · 15-05-2011 08:22PM

orourkeda wrote: »

[YOUTUE]m_mDTLphIVY[/YOUTUBE]

I have to commend you commitment to disrupting Irish language threads, That was incredibly fast:D

Captain_Generic · 15-05-2011 08:23PM

Good to know we're pumping money into something which will appeal to foreign investors

orourkeda · 15-05-2011 08:24PM

deise go deo wrote: »

I have to commend you commitment to disrupting Irish language threads, That was incredibly fast:D

I have to commend your commitment to starting threads about a useless language

Wibbs · 15-05-2011 08:25PM

Oh great not this aris agus aris agus aris... What's "change the tune" as Gaelige?

thehairyelbow · 15-05-2011 08:26PM

They're something I wish were around when I was going to school. My son goes to one. He's seven and to hear him chat away brings a bit of athais to my croi. He loves it.

flyaway. · 15-05-2011 08:31PM

I think they're a great idea- really the best way to keep the language alive. As a current LC student having an awful time with Irish, I really wish my parents had sent me to one. All my cousins went to the local Gaelscoil for primary school and they're all now in an Irish speaking secondary school and they love it.

If I'm still living in Ireland when I'm a parent, I would most certainly consider sending my children to one.

Saila · 15-05-2011 08:32PM

they're gae

Captain_Generic · 15-05-2011 08:33PM

flyaway. wrote: »

I think they're a great idea- really the best way to keep the language alive.

It always seemed to me that all the measures the government has to adopt to "keep the language alive" shows just how dead it is.

I think its time to turn off the life support

Seanchai · 15-05-2011 08:35PM

Captain_Generic wrote: »

Good to know we're pumping money into something which will appeal to foreign investors

:rolleyes:

Iwasfrozen · 15-05-2011 08:35PM

No, the only reason to teach children Irish is to keep it alive. Better to let Irish die and have our children spend an hour a day learning a useful language

orourkeda · 15-05-2011 08:35PM

Captain_Generic wrote: »

It always seemed to me that all the measures the government has to adopt to "keep the language alive" shows just how dead it is.

I think its time to turn off the life support

Should have been done years ago. At least children would have time to learn a subject of greater relevance.

byhookorbycrook · 15-05-2011 08:37PM

Captain_Generic wrote: »

It always seemed to me that all the measures the government has to adopt to "keep the language alive" shows just how dead it is.

I think its time to turn off the life support

Just back from a football trip to Rath Cairn in Co. Meath. All 8 teams speaking Irish, staying with Gaeltacht families where Irish is the first language. Can't get more "alive " than that. Next week 60 of our students are going to Ring in Co. Waterford to experience Gaeltacht life for a few days too.

We have 475 children in our school, all speaking Irish at work and play. This, in a town on the edge of the Pale. We have 60 places per year and are always hugely oversubscribed. So, the language is dead???

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-05-2011 08:39PM

As long as the demand is there, why not? I'm no advocate of the Irish langauge, but I wouldn't stand in someone else's way.

orourkeda · 15-05-2011 08:39PM

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Just back from a football trip to Rath Cairn in Co. Meath. All 8 teams speaking Irish, staying with Gaeltacht families where Irish is the first language. Can't get more "alive " than that. Next week 60 of our students are going to Ring in Co. Waterford to experience Gaeltacht life for a few days too.

We have 475 children in our school, all speaking Irish at work and play. This, in a town on the edge of the Pale. We have 60 places per year and are always hugely oversubscribed. So, the language is dead???

It has been kept alive by artificial means for years. Time to pull the plug

thehairyelbow · 15-05-2011 08:40PM

I can see this one getting interesting.

byhookorbycrook · 15-05-2011 08:40PM

How are Gaelscoileanna artificial?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 15-05-2011 08:42PM

I went to an irish language primary and secondary school, the only time anyone in the school ever spoke irish was when a teacher was around. other than that, all english.

Iwasfrozen · 15-05-2011 08:42PM

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Just back from a football trip to Rath Cairn in Co. Meath. All 8 teams speaking Irish, staying with Gaeltacht families where Irish is the first language. Can't get more "alive " than that. Next week 60 of our students are going to Ring in Co. Waterford to experience Gaeltacht life for a few days too.

We have 475 children in our school, all speaking Irish at work and play. This, in a town on the edge of the Pale. We have 60 places per year and are always hugely oversubscribed. So, the language is dead???

Being spoken in rural back waters certainly makes it "alive" but it doesn't qualifiy it as a workable language for a first world western european country.

Don't get me wrong, leave Irish to those who want to speak it. By all means. But don't expect the rest of us to subsidise your hobby. And certainly don't force those grown adults to learn it.

dlofnep · 15-05-2011 08:43PM

I would, if I could find a suitable girl to put up with my crankyness! Gaelscoileanna are brilliant. Their teachers are enthusiastic, and there is a sense of community in the schools that you rarely find outside of them. They also offer children a real opportunity to learn the Irish language, through a fun and practical fashion.

Naturally, the usual anti-Irish brigade of 4 or 5 posters on here will show there face on here and tell us how useless Irish is, and how Gaelscoileanna are a waste of funds - but I think the majority of the population is in support of them. It's just a shame that there aren't enough Gaelscoileanna open, as the demand for them is really high. It's also a shame that they don't receive enough funding. I know many Gaelscoileanna which are nothing more than prefabs, like my local Gaelscoil - but despite this, it's still full to the brim with eager kids.

byhookorbycrook · 15-05-2011 08:44PM

I'm sorry to hear that Sir Digby. There may be one or two children in our school who speak English at times, but they really do speak Irish most of the time in our school.

123balltv · 15-05-2011 08:44PM

I get the bus to work every morning/afternoon with a gang of Irish school
kids I have never heard them whisper even a tiny word of Irish all I hear is
English whats the point to only ever speak Irish in a concrete building then get out into the real world and speak like everyone else English.
I would'nt want my kids to go to learn a language that they'll only ever speak at school waste of time

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 15-05-2011 08:47PM

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

I'm sorry to hear that Sir Digby. There may be one or two children in our school who speak English at times, but they really do speak Irish most of the time in our school.

im sure our teachers thought that as well

Iwasfrozen · 15-05-2011 08:48PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Naturally, the usual anti-Irish brigade of 4 or 5 posters on here will show there face on here and tell us how useless Irish is, and how Gaelscoileanna are a waste of funds - but I think the majority of the population is in support of them. It's just a shame that there aren't enough Gaelscoileanna open, as the demand for them is really high. It's also a shame that they don't receive enough funding. I know many Gaelscoileanna which are nothing more than prefabs, like my local Gaelscoil - but despite this, it's still full to the brim with eager kids.

Four or five posters? We're already at fourteen out of thirty eight.

deise go deo · 15-05-2011 08:50PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Four or five posters? We're already at fourteen out of thirty eight.

I think you will agree that there is a difference between saying 'Nope' in a Poll and harping on about how useless a language you don't speak is at every opportunity.

byhookorbycrook · 15-05-2011 08:50PM

I hear them speak Irish when they think they are not being overheard ,e.g. togging off for matches, when I come around a corner unexpectedly, when they are in the hall taking out sports equipment and I pass by unseen. It would be very difficult for them to become fluent if they were not speaking the language amongst themselves.

Iwasfrozen · 15-05-2011 08:52PM

deise go deo wrote: »

I think you will agree that there is a difference between saying 'Nope' in a Poll and harping on about how useless a language you don't speak is at every opportunity.

Ah but there is no "Irish is useless and I put it down at every oppertunity" voting option, come to think of it there's no Atari Jaguar option either!

dlofnep · 15-05-2011 08:53PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Four or five posters? We're already at fourteen out of thirty eight.

No you're not. There is a difference between not wanting to send your kid to a Gaelscoil (which is a valid position), and being a routine anti-Irish language poster, popping their face into every Irish language thread to re-affirm to us how 'useless' the Irish language is, and what a 'waste of time it is'. You're like a broken record at this point, and it is absolutely the same usual suspects who do it.

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