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Finally.. The eye for an eye is gonna happen this Saturday.

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  • #32
    gonedrinking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭gonedrinking


    newmug wrote: »
    The point is that all the evil people of the world blind all the good people. When the good people blind them back, everybody's blind!

    But why should the bad people get off scot free. That will just encourage others in the future to be bad. And then what sort of society are we living in?!


  • #33
    gonedrinking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭gonedrinking


    Lemsiper wrote: »
    Ya, because animals throw acid in each other eyes :rolleyes:

    What about cobras? They spit venom into other animals eyes to blind them which is pretty much the same as chucking acid.


  • #34
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    gonedrinking wrote: »
    This will never go ahead, they are just going to find some technicality to get out of it.

    Here's hoping.


  • #35
    gonedrinking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭gonedrinking


    greendom wrote: »
    Here's hoping.

    what if he blinds someone else in the future, would you still think the same?


  • #36
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Bad luck for all the old Testament Funsters - they have had a rethink.

    TEHRAN (AFP) – The court-ordered blinding of an Iranian man who hurled acid in the face of university classmate Ameneh Bahrami has been postponed, the ISNA news agency said on Saturday without giving a source. The sentence had been scheduled to be carried out at noon (0730 GMT) on Saturday at the judiciary hospital in Tehran in the presence of a physician and representatives of the coroners' office and the prosecution.


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  • #37
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    gonedrinking wrote: »
    what if he blinds someone else in the future, would you still think the same?

    Far worse if the state decides to lower itself to the level of people who do despicable things like this. If the state blinds someone with acid it is stating that this is a legitimate course of action.

    The state should not lower itself to the lowest members of its society.

    If that makes me a bleeding heart liberal so be it. A proud one too.


  • #38
    latenia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭latenia


    mike65 wrote: »
    Saturday at the judiciary hospital in Tehran in the presence of a physician and representatives of the coroners' office and the prosecution.

    How the fup could a doctor agree to be part of this?


  • #39
    Fizman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    latenia wrote: »
    How the fup could a doctor agree to be part of this?

    Because said doctor can see that this evil cnut is getting his comeuppance?


  • #40
    Mrmoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    greendom wrote: »
    Far worse if the state decides to lower itself to the level of people who do despicable things like this. If the state blinds someone with acid it is stating that this is a legitimate course of action.

    I disagree though, most states have to do things for the greater good, whether that is taxes, imprisonment, jury duty it has to be done. Now, I can clearly see the difference between imprisonment and corporal punishment such as this, the state has a duty to protect its citizens. Hopefully this will act as a deterrant and prevent any future attacks.


  • #41
    Liamario
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭Liamario


    An eye for an eye makes sense on paper, but if you really think about it, it's quite disturbing.
    The thought of mutilating the eyes of someone is more than a little creepy.

    Maybe I'm just putting myself in the situation of being blinded and that's what's making me feel uncomfortable or it could be a large splinter in my "eye"


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  • #42
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,652 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    The Davestator wrote: »
    Once word gets out that if you burn someone the same thing will happen to you if might help.
    Yes. This course of action is definitely the right one.

    May I use the US as an example? They have capital punishment and I can't ever remember hearing of a murder committed there.:rolleyes:


  • #43
    lastlaugh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    gonedrinking wrote: »
    What about cobras? They spit venom into other animals eyes to blind them which is pretty much the same as chucking acid.

    The fundamental flaw in that analogy is that Cobras would spit venom as a defensive measure, not as evil retribution for being spurned.

    To compare someone who would do such a thing to an animal is an insult to animals.


  • #44
    Lemsiper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Lemsiper


    gonedrinking wrote: »
    What about cobras? They spit venom into other animals eyes to blind them which is pretty much the same as chucking acid.

    Exactly, what about venom. Acid is the subject.

    They don't do it out of spite either.


  • #45
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    An Iranian woman who had acid thrown on her face by a man she refused to marry has been granted retribution which will see the man responsible be subjected to the same act at the hands of the state.

    Story is here - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/13/iran-blind-criminal-acid

    Do you agree with this type of punishment, and should a similar idea be introduced here?

    Personally I think it's retarded in this instance since the type of crime in the story is usually borne out of sharia laws in the first place.


  • #46
    Gordon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72208697


  • #47
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    shakira what?


  • #48
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Gordon wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72208697

    Ah balls.. mods can delete this so!


  • #49
    jimcoolding
    Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭jimcoolding


    and that is why i don't start threads in a.h for fear of duplication and in general failure


  • #50
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    jesus, no, that's dreadful.


  • #51
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    for the women who get raped, does the victim then get to use a strap-on on him?


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  • #52
    Coriolanus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Keep this one. It has a poll and everyone knows polls are Gods way of telling us he loves us.

    Anyway, no. It's barbaric and probably stupid to boot.

    IF I steal a loaf of bread, then what? The limit of the laws punishment is stealing a loaf of bread from me?


  • #53
    LondonIrish90
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭LondonIrish90


    Absolutely disgusting in my opinion.

    The state of Iran is showing itself (as if we didn't already know) to be no better than the evil scumbag who ruined this woman's life forever.

    If this policy of "an eye for an eye" was ever implemented in Britain or Ireland, I would leave and never, ever return.


  • #54
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    A lot of crimes like the one mentioned in the article happen because of the deep-seated religious beliefs which also dictate sharia laws. I don't see how something can be countered by using the same set of ideals as what caused the problem in the first place.. It's self-perpetuating insanity.


  • #55
    metrovelvet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,375 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    Eye for an eye. If someone pokes out your eye, presumably taht person has his two eyes when he is poking out your eye, but when its your turn to poke out his eye, you dont have two eyes, you are starting out with one. Hardly fair.


  • #56
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    What sort of "physician" would willingly blind someone or indeed harm someone in anyway? That goes against the very crux of Medicine. The government can go to hell with their punishments and sentences, I'd rather lose my job than disable someone in an act of state-sponsored revenge.


  • #57
    Adamisconfused
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Adamisconfused


    LondonIrish90 wrote: »
    Absolutely disgusting in my opinion.

    The state of Iran is showing itself (as if we didn't already know) to be no better than the evil scumbag who ruined this woman's life forever.

    If this policy of "an eye for an eye" was ever implemented in Britain or Ireland, I would leave and never, ever return.

    The last execution in Ireland took place in 1954. I presume the parents of most of us were alive then. The last execution in Britain happened in in 1964 and in France in 1977. The US and Japan still retain the death penalty.
    Iran is simply implementing a slightly twisted version of state vengeance.


  • #58
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    I disagree though, most states have to do things for the greater good, whether that is taxes, imprisonment, jury duty it has to be done. Now, I can clearly see the difference between imprisonment and corporal punishment such as this, the state has a duty to protect its citizens. Hopefully this will act as a deterrant and prevent any future attacks.

    How much "greater good" will be caused by this ?

    It's been empirically proven that Capital punishment has no impact on reducing murder rates so I fail to see how corporal will make any difference.

    A bit more than "hopefully" is needed for a state to carry out such despicable acts.


  • #59
    brummytom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Nope, I think it's stupid.

    How can you claim any kind of moral standing when punish a person for a crime they've committed by dragging yourself down to their exact level? Just because something's state-sanctioned doesn't make it right.


  • #60
    pragmatic1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    I'm liberal about most things with the exception of violent crime. **** em.


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  • #61
    evercloserunion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    Be honest OP, if you start a thread to bash Muslims at least don't pretend it's a thread about the appropriate social response to crime.


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