What to spend average public service retirement gratuity on - 2 new apartments?

gigino · 14-05-2011 04:05PM

Biggins wrote: »

Thats the fault of the government

The government not only work with the public service but are part of the public service, and also get government pensions and gratuities.

Biggins wrote: »

- why are you appearing to be very selective and picking on public servants and their hard earned entitlements?

because , as my brother say to me ( jibes to me ! ) the taxpayer does not give a tax free gratuity of the cost of 2 apartments ( on average ) to each retiring public servant. A gold watch is all some get / many have got, in the private sector - if they are lucky !

Nodin · 14-05-2011 04:05PM

sollar wrote: »

Whats this obsession with buying two appartments. If i had 100K in the morning i wouldn't be spending it on 2 appartments.

Coke and hookers? Or are you an old fashioned moralist like myself......

....and thinking of weed, booze and 'good time girls'.

Nodin · 14-05-2011 04:06PM

Biggins wrote: »

I suspect he's just using his "2 apartment" statement as a way to berate public servants in a derogatory way for some still unexplained personal reason!

Public servant GF left him, mebbe.

gigino · 14-05-2011 04:08PM

I would say most are putting it in a nice safe place abroad now...before its enough to buy 3 nice new government approved apartments here lol

Biggins · 14-05-2011 04:09PM

gigino wrote: »

The government not only work with the public service but are part of the public service, and also get government pensions and gratuities.

So define your anger towards them and stop silly, blankly lashing out at all!
You do your efforts no justice.

gigino wrote: »

...because , as my brother say to me ( jibes to me ! ) the taxpayer does not giove a tax free gratuity of the cost of 2 apartments ( on average ) to each retiring public servant. A gold watch is all some get / many have got, in the private sector - if they are lucky !

...And yet again, have a go at those that are actually responsible for this outcome. Not those that were luck to be spared and actually only got better what they were entitled to!

DubTony · 14-05-2011 04:20PM

shar01 wrote: »

Formula for lump sum:
Salary x service x 3 / 80

To qualify for full benefits, one must have 40 years service.

Anyone who stays in any job for 40 years probably deserves decent benefits.

FYP

gigino · 14-05-2011 04:23PM

Biggins wrote: »

have a go at those that are actually responsible for this outcome.

what do you mean? Its a great outcome for say a Guard who joined in 1981 and who retired last year. The guard who joined in 1981 may not have reckoned on getting a great tip / gratuity ( the price of 2 or 3 apartments ) when he retired on full pension ( 50% of finishing salary ) aged 50, but ....you mean those responsible for this outcome should be attacked ? like the p.s. trade union officials, top public servants, politicians...lol ?

MagicSean · 14-05-2011 04:24PM

gigino wrote: »

Retiring public servants get a lump sum gratuity payment of a year and a halves finishing salary , tax free, in addition to their normal pension of 50% of finishing salary.

Average salary in the public service is only € 47,000 per annum according to the cso ( www.cso.ie ) but remember finishing salaries are on average considerably higher due to age, promotion, increments etc.
80k will but not one but two new apartments in some parts of the country.
http://www.daft.ie/searchnew_development.daft?id=12590

Begrudgers may ask in what other ( bankrupt !) country would the average retiring public servant - in addition to their annual pension - get a cash tax free amount equivalent to a couple of nice new apartments, built to government specifications in scenic areas, as a tip ?

A few colleagues and acquantances have retired lately. What does the average public service retirement gratuity get spent on? Usually kids are raised, mortgage paid off etc so should it be
2 apartments in Ireland

a weekend in Las Vegas

a golf villa in Portugal

helping the kids get on the housing ladder, or what ?

Weren't you banned from the economy forum for all your public service bashing posts?

tayto lover · 14-05-2011 04:28PM

If thats all they're getting after working hard for 40 years then its a paltry sum.

gigino · 14-05-2011 04:28PM

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

Weren't you banned from the economy forum for all your public service bashing posts?

I am quite pro public service but question public sector expenditure.

Yes, I am banned for the next 2 days from there;),

Biggins · 14-05-2011 04:29PM

gigino wrote: »

what do you mean. Its a great outcome for say a Guard who joined in 1981 and who retired last year. The guard who joined in 1981 may not have reckoned on getting a great tip / gratuity ( the price of 2 or 3 apartments ) when he retired on full pension ( 50% of finishing salary ) aged 50, but ....you mean those responsible for this outcome should be attacked ? like the trade union officials, top public servants, politicians...but shure they are on the same themselves..

Dear god you still don't get it.
...And who is responsible?
Stop the lashing out at those that are only collecting that which others is giving them!
Have a go at the pay-masters if you want to bring about change - not bash the receivers for their long efforts and only trying to gain what they can from their pay-masters.

Enough of this rubbish!

445279.ie · 14-05-2011 04:31PM

How many apartments again did you say? :rolleyes:

Praetorian Saighdiuir · 14-05-2011 04:32PM

gigino wrote: »

I am quite pro public service but question public sector expenditure.

Yes, I am banned for the next 2 days from there;),

You are boring and should be banned from the whole internet. If you are so against PS pensions then when it comes time to collect yours, I hope you politely decline.

MagicSean · 14-05-2011 04:33PM

gigino wrote: »

I am quite pro public service but question public sector expenditure.

Yes, I am banned for the next 2 days from there;),

No you aren't pro public sector. You do nothing but attack it with baseless and ill-informed opinions and "facts".

johnthemull · 14-05-2011 04:34PM

Hello there
I am a public servant waiting to retire soon.
I am spending my lump sum on prostate massage.
is mise le mas a chara etc

ldxo15wus6fpgm · 14-05-2011 04:35PM

tayto lover wrote: »

If thats all they're getting after working hard for 40 years then its a paltry sum.

What if they're not working hard though? I have a cousin who works in a hospital as part of the administration staff. He has seen plenty of people constantly getting promoted up through the ranks just so they can be got rid of from that particular department, because they don't do a stroke of work. IMO the public service system in Ireland is a shambles.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 14-05-2011 04:40PM

I could have retired in 2006, I calculated my grat then to be about €15,000 +/-

I'll have to make a decision on retiring (or not) before Feb. 2012 - if I stay on after that date I might be lucky if I can afford two tents for next summer's Electric Picnic.

Just thinking, at a stretch I could squeeze in a paddling pool (unheated) and lord it up over my private sector sloggers.

Biggins · 14-05-2011 04:42PM

Elise Tight Snorer wrote: »

...I'll have to make a decision on retiring (or not) before Feb. 2012 - if I stay on after that date I might be lucky if I can afford two tents for next summer's Electric Picnic.

You can still have two tents?
Ya rich sod!

MagicSean · 14-05-2011 04:46PM

Biggins wrote: »

You can still have two tents?
Ya rich sod!

Well he'll probably have to rent one out to help with the bills.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 14-05-2011 04:46PM

Biggins wrote: »

You can still have two tents?
Ya rich sod!

Pifft, idiot - one can't board one's servants in one's own quarters :mad:

tayto lover · 14-05-2011 04:47PM

Evelyn Fat Spyglass wrote: »

What if they're not working hard though? I have a cousin who works in a hospital as part of the administration staff. He has seen plenty of people constantly getting promoted up through the ranks just so they can be got rid of from that particular department, because they don't do a stroke of work. IMO the public service system in Ireland is a shambles.

Well if thats whats happening in his part of it then that part is in a shambles. How do you know about the rest of it though ?

Biggins · 14-05-2011 04:49PM

Elise Tight Snorer wrote: »

Pifft, idiot - one can't board one's servants in one's own quarters :mad:

LOL True! :pac:
One begs one others forgiveness for such frightful forgetfulness.

gigino · 14-05-2011 04:59PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Well if thats whats happening in his part of it then that part is in a shambles. How do you know about the rest of it though ?

most of us have some siblings, and/or friends, neighbours, old classmates, sports buddies etc who are also in the public service ...thats how we know about the rest of it

johnthemull · 14-05-2011 05:05PM

most of us have some siblings, and/or friends, neighbours, old classmates, sports buddies etc who are also in the public service

Have you not reported them to the gestapo yet?

gigino · 14-05-2011 05:09PM

johnthemull wrote: »

Have you not reported them to the gestapo yet?

dunno what you are talking about ....the Gardai, revenue commissioners cannot be compared to the Gestapo.

johnthemull · 14-05-2011 05:11PM

gigino wrote: »

dunno what you are talking about ....the Gardai, revenue commissioners cannot be compared to the Gestapo.

Guess you dont do sarcasm in the private sector

arybvtcw0eolkf · 14-05-2011 05:12PM

gigino wrote: »

dunno what you are talking about ....the Gardai, revenue commissioners cannot be compared to the Gestapo.

I've just had a browse through your other posts, your just a little man full of hatred aren't you?.

Have you failed at everything in your hate filled miserable little life?.

Whats made you like this, full of crap & hatred?.

Vizzy · 14-05-2011 05:16PM

Elise Tight Snorer wrote: »

I've just had a browse through your other posts, your just a little man full of hatred aren't you?.

Have you failed at everything in your hate filled miserable little life?.

Whats made you like this, full of crap & hatred?.

Leave her alone - she's only 12

johnthemull · 14-05-2011 05:16PM

Elise Tight Snorer wrote: »

I've just had a browse through your other posts, your just a little man full of hatred aren't you?.

Have you failed at everything in your hate filled miserable little life?.

Whats made you like this, full of crap & hatred?.

Who was that addressed to?
Check out the meaning of the word "moderator"
WTF?

Vizzy · 14-05-2011 05:27PM

johnthemull wrote: »

Who was that addressed to?
Check out the meaning of the word "moderator"
WTF?

I would suspect that it wasn't directed at you but at the guy who thanked your post.

What to spend average public service retirement gratuity on - 2 new apartments?

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