Anyone not like The Beatles?

seanybiker · 12-05-2011 01:38AM

A couple of ok songs but in my opinion they are the most overrated band ever.

Badgermonkey · 12-05-2011 01:39AM

orourkeda wrote: »

Why?

Firstly, it'd be boring.

Secondly, unless we agreed parameters (see, I'm boring myself already), it'd involve putting the Beatles in a broader context musically and socio-politically from as early as '55 to 1970.

To carry it off without bluff and counter bluff would require an encyclopedic knowledge of everything from life in post-war Liverpool to bloody skiffle music.

orourkeda · 12-05-2011 01:39AM

Stained Class wrote: »

You haven't , so far given a legitimate reason for their Non-Role in modern culture other than 'your dislike'*

Like it matters'.

I think their music is overrated. I think they are overrated as musicians and are overated as an act.

I never stated that have a "non role". Ive acknowledged their influence. I just happen to think their music is nothing special and I cant quite comprehend what their attraction to people is.

You can get all snide if you wish and poo poo my opinion because I happen to disagree with you.

Stained Class · 12-05-2011 01:47AM

orourkeda wrote: »

I think their music is overrated. I think they are overrated as musicians and are overated as an act.

I never stated that have a "non role". Ive acknowledged their influence. I just happen to think their music is nothing special and I cant quite comprehend what their attraction to people is.

You can get all snide if you wish and poo poo my opinion because I happen to disagree with you.

Poo poo you.

You did'nt give a good agument other than your own personal dislike..

That's just not good enough, when arguing something on this scale..

orourkeda · 12-05-2011 01:50AM

Stained Class wrote: »

Poo poo you.

You did'nt give a good agument other than your own personal dislike..

That's just not good enough, when arguing something on this scale..

What is it you want to hear exactly?

Xivilai · 12-05-2011 02:16AM

I did like them, but I got sick of them quickly:)

Constantly bloody hearing them everywhere

cock robin · 12-05-2011 08:14AM

Ah The Beatles the band that influenced every band since the 60s. Boyzone,Westlife etc. The Beatles are sh1te, a band for young girls and insecure men to scream and throw their knickers at. Love Love me do, what a load of bollox.

Buceph · 12-05-2011 08:39AM

Lots of people in this thread who have no idea about what the state of the music scene was around the time when the Beatles came on the scene, and what they did to it over the next few years. As an earlier poster said, their best period was between Rubber Soul (Norweigian Wood... A ****ING SITAR? WHAT THE **** IS THAT, AND WHY IS HE SINGING ABOUT ARSON?!?) and Sgt Peppers. Also, a lot of people who can't really listen to a song without a "hook" or some edge to it. The Beatles are pop music, and probably the greatest pop music of all time. They tried to get away from that with some songs, some with success (Tomorrow Never Knows, put that on in a club and watch the reaction) and some with modest success but nothing outstanding (Helter Skelter, they couldn't do "hard" songs, they were pop.) And sometimes they literally wiped the floor of everything in front of them (A Day in the Life)

But to get an idea of what was going on with the Beatles you need to look at who else was around during their peak, and these are guys who can find a much better modern audience because they're more niche;

Beach Boys (Brian Wilson is said to have cried when he heard Sgt Peppers, and he's the guy who wrote Pet Sounds. Although I'd imagine 90% of AH would say they're just like Westlife because they have vocal harmonies. Get the **** out.)
Cream (Some of the best musicians of the century, in the best supergroup and who laid the way for Led Zeppelin)
Janis Joplin (Although I haven't listened to her much)
Jefferson Airplane (Ever watch Fear and Loathing?)
Jethro Tull (Folk and Rock, who the **** woulda thunk it?)
Jimi Hendrix (If you want to know what it's like to be the greatest guitar player of all time why don't you ask Rory Gallagher (I know he didn't actually say this))
The Rolling Stones
Leonard Cohen (Possibly wrote the sexiest songs of all time)
Pink Floyd (A completely different Pink Floyd to what most people know)
Syd Barrett (More of a sad case than Brian Wilson, but far greater than Wilson on the singer songwriter front)
The Kinks (Ray Davies, probably the greatest lyricist of all time)
The Who

Seriously, all from the 60's and all would give credence to the Beatles. That was a time for music that will never again be repeated or bested, ever. I'd give my left and right nut to be able to go back and experience it all.

frag420 · 12-05-2011 08:45AM

Similar to Bob Dylans singing ability, the Irish soccer team, U2 and Arsenal the Beatles were and are the most overrated pile of muck ever!

This is my honest opinion and not something to rock the boat although if I could rock a boat with the above mentioned in it in the vain hope it may capsize then ROCK ON!!

frAg

Mr Benevolent · 12-05-2011 09:01AM

I never liked the Beatles. Way overplayed.

--Kaiser-- · 12-05-2011 09:10AM

Shocking lack of musical taste in this thread. Probably from people who've never heard The White Album or Sgt. Peppers.

Ignoramuses all

optogirl · 12-05-2011 09:13AM

squod wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE2Vdcv9Q_o

Anyone who likes this kind of rubbish needs their head examined removed.

absolutely love that tune. Off with my head!

Mr Benevolent · 12-05-2011 09:14AM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Shocking lack of musical taste in this thread. Probably from people who've never heard The White Album or Sgt. Peppers.

Ignoramuses all

It's the Beatles, not Mozart.

summerskin · 12-05-2011 09:15AM

they were the first boyband. the take that of their time.

and as such, were vastly overrated ****e.

Stones, Who, Zep, all far superior.

stovelid · 12-05-2011 09:15AM

I was too busy disliking them to actually listen to them for years - as you do when you're about 15 and you think that anything popular/consensus based/in your parents music collection is shit

When I grew up and listened to it, I liked a lot of it.

bonerm · 12-05-2011 09:20AM

While we're on the subject. Mozart, Beethoven, overrated! Most of their tunes didn't even have vocals. Like wtf? :rolleyes:

Badgermonkey · 12-05-2011 09:27AM

Buceph wrote: »

Syd Barrett (More of a sad case than Brian Wilson, but far greater than Wilson on the singer songwriter front)

The only aspect that really lends itself to comparison between the two is probably the 'acid-casualty' angle.

stovelid · 12-05-2011 09:27AM

summerskin wrote: »

they were the first boyband. the take that of their time.

and as such, were vastly overrated ****e.

I didn't realize they all died straight after A Hard Days Night.

How terrible.

thebostoncrab · 12-05-2011 09:33AM

I don't like the first few records, but as they kept going I liked them more than more.

I think Wings are better to be honest...*Hides from abuse*

stovelid · 12-05-2011 09:36AM

thebostoncrab wrote: »

I think Wings are better to be honest...*Hides from abuse*

I liked Wings too.

Paul Mac had some OK tunes by himself too.

Coming Up, Take it Away etc.

Buceph · 12-05-2011 09:40AM

summerskin wrote: »

they were the first boyband. the take that of their time.

and as such, were vastly overrated ****e.

Stones, Who, Zep, all far superior.

First off, you seem to be talking entirely about The Beatles early stuff. And comparing it to the Rolling Stones post 66. Compare like with like, look at the early stuff The Stones released and you can see it's a blatant rip off of The Beatles.

And with Led Zeppelin, you're again not comparing the years. Zeppelin didn't take off until after The Beatles had released Sgt Peppers and Abbey Road. A real comparison would be The Beatles to the Yardbirds, who were actually filled with far better musicians than The Beatles, but who were still inspired by the freedoms The Beatles had achieved for musicians.

And The Who needed until the 70s to break through. They had some great songs in their earlier albums but their sound wasn't defined, and they had no stand out albums, which the Beatles did.

Badgermonkey wrote: »

The only aspect that really lends itself to comparison between the two is probably the 'acid-casualty' angle.

I'm not too sure. I think if you had put together Wilsons musical abilities and his arrangemeny abilitiesl, Barrett's lyrical abilities and got them working together in their lucid moments it would have been the most genius album of all time.

GavRedKing · 12-05-2011 09:44AM

I've a buddy who is a huge Beatles fan and a few buddies who like them but they have never appealed too me.

So in short, I dont like them, they just dont do it for me really.

hal9000 · 12-05-2011 09:49AM

Dont like the beatles, dont like their music, dont like the individuals, dont like the their messianic cult status, but I especially dont like their smug fans telling me you cant not like the beatles, and how Im an ignoramus that just doesn't understand their music or music at all.

Gunsfortoys · 12-05-2011 09:53AM

Later albums are brilliant, they matured a good bit.

neilthefunkeone · 12-05-2011 09:54AM

Have to say i cant stand the Beatles.. Just a band i never liked.. People have tried with the whole "but they were the first of their kind" blah blah blah.. I just dont like them.. never will either!!

And whats worse is people telling you have crap taste in Music cos i dont like them.. Good point of view idiot!!!

Buceph · 12-05-2011 09:57AM

hal9000 wrote: »

Dont like the beatles, dont like their music, dont like the individuals, dont like the their messianic cult status, but I especially dont like their smug fans telling me you cant not like the beatles, and how Im an ignoramus that just doesn't understand their music or music at all.

Go ahead, don't like their music. But at the same time don't say it's ****e and don't say it hasn't been hugely influential. That just shows you up.

I don't like Michael Jacksons music, in fact I hate it. I don't like Jackson the person, I don't like his messianic cult status and I don't like his fans telling me I can't not like him. But if I said to anyone into their music that Michael Jackson isn't talented, didn't write hugely influential songs, didn't write some of the definitive pop songs, and that he was just "****e" I'd be laughed at and dismissed.

There are a couple of artists whose contribution to modern music simply can't be denied. Music that you can directly trace its influence to where we are today. You can do that with Jackson and you can do that with the Beatles. You're free to not like the music, but to deny the enormity of the music is plain ignorance.

Badgermonkey · 12-05-2011 09:59AM

Buceph wrote: »

I'm not too sure. I think if you had put together Wilsons musical abilities and his arrangemeny abilitiesl, Barrett's lyrical abilities and got them working together in their lucid moments it would have been the most genius album of all time.

I've got a bike, you can ride it if you like,
I love you most of all, my favourite vega-tables.

Could be onto something there

RachaelVO · 12-05-2011 10:04AM

Don't mind them so much...

Not a big fan of John Lennon though. Why people rate Imagine and Woman as two of the best songs ever written is beyond me. Total sh1te.

I'm going to hide behind the couch now, cos there's a load of abuse coming my way!

Mr. Presentable · 12-05-2011 10:04AM

I liked them when I was in my teens, but as my musical taste matured I got bored of them. I recall a Bob Dylan remark to Lennon along the lines of:

"you have a great gift, John, why do you write such junk?"

And that's pretty much it. There's no doubting the song writing craft of Lennon, but he only performed after the Beatles split. McCartney showed bugger all with Wings or solo to suggest to me he was the genius he's acclaimed to be.

So, in summation, I don't like the Beatles. If they are on the radio I switch channel the same as if Jedward came on.

Lemegeton · 12-05-2011 10:05AM

i never liked them. i understand and respect their influence and how important a band they were.
but their music always bored me

Anyone not like The Beatles?

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