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Anyone not like The Beatles?
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You have such a lovely way with words I had to highlight it and you more or less said it for me . These guys knew how to sing and harmonise together as good as any group you care to mentionBadgermonkey wrote: »
Why are they held in such esteem by such a broad range of highly accomplished musicians across virtually all genres from jazz to rock to classical?
For primarily self taught guys, they are considered to have been abundantly blessed with a musical sensibility and literacy light years ahead of their contemporaries (Brian Wilson excepted) in terms of compositional structure, chord progression and use of rhythm and harmony.
AgreedPeople who don't appreciate The Beatles should curl up and die or leave the planet.
I mean that in the nicest way possible.
I love and admire hundreds of groups and artists and far to many to include here ,ie, The Beach Boys ,The Doors ,Rolling Stones ,Roy Orbison to name a few and different generes , classical , soul , jazz ,rock .
But the Beatles for me growing up have being a very important part of my musical heritage which goes byond all the hype ever written about them but rather than go into a big long schlong as to why , I think badgermonkeys post above say's it all simply enough for me .
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Millions of YouTube Listeners ,many who are only in their teens , are delighted to discover and much prefer them over much of the crap out there that's called music today .The quotes on all their songs on YouTube speak for themselfs .0 -
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Their music was crap before they started using vast quantities of illegal substances. Paul McCartney and Ringo were crap no matter what they took, or didn't take, and still are crap.
This whole "Ringo was a rubbish drummer" is something that gets trotted out over and over. He wasn't a showy drummer. People who don't know what good music is about equate showy with good.
Listen to this for a tasty drum groove:
As for Mcartney. I don't think many would deny he's a fantastic songwriter (e.g. Eleanor Rigby). But his bass playing was quite tasty too. Not flashy. Tasty.
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Yet Strawberry fields/Penny Lane was beaten to numero uno in the UK by "release me" by Englebert Humperdinck. Mad. Well in reality it wasn't. Double A sides were unknown before that(another fab four first) so the charts judges counted the two songs as separate. Still got it to number two though. They did have a scary amount of firsts in media and music and helped to popularise others. They really changed the landscape like no others before or since.
Not liking them I can understand, but not appreciating them I can't. Me? I don't like Pink Floyd. Well one, maybe two songs. The rest I personally find too middle england twiddling for me. However I do appreciate their huge influence and general quality and innovation. I much prefer the Stones but would rate the Floyd so far ahead of the Stones that Jagger would need the services of the Hubble to see Gilmore's artistic arse moving away from him. Zappa I don't rate. I like him, but musically he's the equivalent of a heavy duty coffee table book with a flash cover. Looks good on the shelf to show your cred, but you've never really read it. Mostly cos it's unreadable. Good man for a quote, the Wilde of wock
but unlike Wilde not the giant he thought he was in the field he chose. Beefheart another on that score. My humble naturally. 
:P Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.
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I agree. Now I looove showy too. I'll fap to Hendrix or Moon all the day long.Deleted User wrote: »This whole "Ringo was a rubbish drummer" is something that gets trotted out over and over. He wasn't a showy drummer. People who don't know what good music is about equate showy with good. But yep the song was always the thing. Everything was subservient to the individual song.
AKA "Right John can you make up your fcuking mind as to what time this song is supposed to be in?" have a listen, it goes from straight 4 to the bar then 16ths then a fcuked up waltz. That's lennon though, timing all over the shop. Good Morning another example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmOecBHVhLg I remember seeing an interview with McCartney AFAIR about ringo and his drumming. Lennon had waltzed in one day with a Motown record and said to Ringo "Here Richie can you do it like that?" He replied "but John there's two drummers on that track". John "Don't let that worry ya Rich you'll be grand". Sometimes they would lay down a track and then ask him to put a drum part to it afterwards :eek: just by feel as it could be all over the place. Ask any drummer today and he or she will be WTF at that. Being their drummer with their ever changing needs would have been a nightmare and he kept up.Listen to this for a tasty drum groove:Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.
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They are regarded as great songwriters not virtuoso musicans.If you want to hear a virtuoso musican listen to Yngwie Malmsteen.
But for your own sake don't.
Precisely - Malmsteen is rightly considered a genius technical guitarist. His music though, by and large, is tuneless drivel. Being technically brilliant has little to do with song-wring talent.
One of my favourite Beatles songs, you can't get much simpler than this
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The Beatles? Who the fcuk are they?
Find me a Beatles song even half ways as good as this:
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The Beatles? Who the fcuk are they?
Find me a Beatles song even half ways as good as this:
Done
As Wibbs said earlier, the Stones created enough good songs for a couple of best of CDs but, from what I've heard, they made an astonishing amount of filler0 -
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The Beatles are probably my all time favourite band, and as a bass player myself Paul McCartney has had a big influence on me, when he was good he was really good:
I have met plenty of people who don't like them though and usually (but not always) these people don't know much about them beyond things like Love Me Do and I Want to Hold Your Hand.0 -
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As Wibbs said earlier, the Stones created enough good songs for a couple of best of CDs but, from what I've heard, they made an astonishing amount of filler
That's drivel in comparison0 -
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Dogdaysareover wrote: »I never got the Beatles, "We all live in yellow submarine"??
How high were they?!:pac:
In fairness, they were a good band. But I was completely put off by John Lennon. Much like Bono in U2 or that Gallagher idiot in Oasis. Completely self-obsessed, while lecturing the rest of us. I liked the Beatles music, but preferred Wings. Like U2 but hate Bono.
Can't stand Oasis. Remember one time they were on some American live show, and yer man Liam upended a can of beer on the stage. The Yank presenter took the piss out out him left, right, and centre. "Ewwww, he spilled a beer - wow!".
I'm 52 now, so my musical tastes stretch from Queen to Abba to Status Quo to LZ/Uriah Heep/Deep Purple/Josh Groban, and even a bit of classical. I even like the Sound Of Music and some other musicals. Can't stand Jazz though.
It does become academic as you get older. All that matters is what you enjoy yourself. But the Beatles (and many 60s bands) were on the coat tails of the greats like Bill Haley, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis et al. But they did bring it a step further in the evolution of music.
En:)joy it folks - don't argue about it. Expand your musical horizons every day. We're not here for that long in the overall scheme of things.0 -
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IMHO the Stones as a band, inventive they are not, or in a very limited sense. They pick a groove and stick with it and they've had maybe three such grooves in their musical career. Hell they've been ripping themselves off ad nauseam for the last 20 odd years. Actually they remind me a lot of U2 on that score. They're very similar in that respect. To be fair, both are distinctive bands. You can't mistake them for anyone else and they do have some good grooves in the mix. But overall and when we're talking about quality and consistency in output and influence the Beatles are scarily ahead.
You know way more than me on this subject, but to me it's simply a matter of taste. I find much of the Beatles music very boyish and sometimes cringeworthy. I find most of the Stones stuff damn cool - but hey, that's just me!
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Lolwut?Their music was crap before they started using vast quantities of illegal substances. Paul McCartney and Ringo were crap no matter what they took, or didn't take, and still are crap.
Paul McCartney (regardless of what you think of him as a person) is a fantastic songwriter and still gives great live performances. Saw him last year at the RDS and he was brilliant. Still in fine voice and so much energy for a man only a few years off 70.
I think the Beatles were fantastic, but I also think Elvis was the most overrated singer in history. I don't hate his music, but there's very little of it that I actually enjoy ("Suspicious Minds" is a good song but the rest is very meh.) Also the fact that he never wrote his own songs and was basically a puppet being controlled by svengalis in the background annoys me. He had a decent voice and was pretty good looking but nothing more.Them and Elvis, never really liked either.
Anyone who likes this kind of rubbish needs their head examined removed.
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That is quite possibly my favourite Beatles song of all time. How dare you, sir.
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