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Do you like Solicitors? ... do you think they are scum?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭tony007


    those pesky trying to improve our health, cure our illnesses, etc etc, no gooders!!!!

    That was the point I was making


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    I had to defend myself against a ridiculous lawsuit recently, brought against me by an utter pr1ck who thought he was on to a good thing having been encouraged to take action by his equally dishonest financial advisor. On the day of the action his barrister and solicitor advised him to drop the case lest he not only lose the case but have costs and damages to pay as well.

    Both his legal representatives and mine were perfectly professional and were a credit to their companies.

    Obviously not all solicitors are that classy but I haven't met a rogue one yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Mostly scum. The legal profession in general have a lot to answer for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    I guess everyone who is bitching wont go crawling to one when they have a run in with the law so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    Meh. I know a fair few simply because I'm studying Law and most of my friends have family who are practicing, and while there are a few bad eggs, I would consider 90% of the solicitors I know to be caring, compassionate people who are competent and capable when it comes to doing their jobs. (Alliteration ftw!:pac:) I hear a lot of people saying things like "all lawyers are scum" and then struggling to provide a few concrete examples to back up their assertions, so as far as I have seen through personal experience it's more a case of there being the idea that solicitors are morally bankrupt etc. rather than there actually being many morally bankrupt solicitors. If that makes sense. Which it probably doesn't, my brain is fried. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    A solicitor that can make you loads of money out of a personal injury claim is good, one that is after your blood in a law suit is bad. Swings and roundabouts with them.

    I know you are famed all over boards.ie for your conspiracy theory rants but the BS you posted above takes the biscuit for me. The purpose of insurance or settlement is to put the injured party back in the same position they were in prior to an incident - not to make them a shed load of money in a claim for a twisted ankle and put someone else bankrupt or out of business in the process. That kind of carry on is the height of scumbagyness (my new word!) and both recipients of cash in said cases (solicitors and 'injured' party) should go to hell for their lies.

    It's people with views like this 'on the make' which have the rest of us paying such high insurance costs - i.e. those who make false or exaggerated claims in order to make 'loads of money' are stealing directly from the pockets of each and every one of us. If you truly believe what you just posted the biggest scumbag in this thread is you. :mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,227 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    there are good and honourable solicitors around , but sadly way too many see themselves above the law , and driven by greed - checkout the ones advertising for divorce - anyone who has witnessed divorce knows how horrible an experience it can be, for all parties - not something to be advertised alongside plumbers and handymen - the tribunal gravy trains are a disgrace - 15 years to tell us what we already know - at a scandalous cost to the nation , making a small select elite even wealthier, in there salubrious D4 mansions


  • Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We're focusing on the wrong set of assholes here.

    Barristers are the real gob****es.

    Those wigs and gowns make me cringe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    No Lawyers, no problems


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭MadameCholet


    Bit of an extreme view. My solicitor was alright. He wasn't cheap BUT he actually 'overlooked' a few consulations which was decent of him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Trevor451


    This thread belongs in the law forum :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Meh. I know a fair few simply because I'm studying Law and most of my friends have family who are practicing, and while there are a few bad eggs, I would consider 90% of the solicitors I know to be caring, compassionate people who are competent and capable when it comes to doing their jobs. (Alliteration ftw!:pac:) I hear a lot of people saying things like "all lawyers are scum" and then struggling to provide a few concrete examples to back up their assertions, so as far as I have seen through personal experience it's more a case of there being the idea that solicitors are morally bankrupt etc. rather than there actually being many morally bankrupt solicitors. If that makes sense. Which it probably doesn't, my brain is fried. :pac:

    Thats a good way of putting it. The legal profession will never have good PR nor will it be seen as a carin and compassionate profession. You only have to look at court cases and tribunals that make news headlines and solicitors rarely come out smelling of roses. The reason behind this is that they do their job to a very high professional standard. I think it is the profession rather than the people that is morally unbalanced and this view usually rubs off on the people who work as solictors/lawyers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    I love one.

    The most gorgeous woman I've ever seen. Otherwise, they're all c*nts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    And what about human right solicitors? Or intellectual property solicitors? Or even our justic minister Alan Shatter? All scum obviously....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    those pesky trying to improve our health, cure our illnesses, etc etc, no gooders!!!!
    I haven't met many people who became better by going to the doctor. Improving your health by visiting a doctor? Don't make The Onionator laugh.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,442 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    whiteonion wrote: »
    I haven't met many people who became better by going to the doctor. Improving your health by visiting a doctor? Don't make The Onionator laugh.

    So my cancer just cured itself. Funny that...

    Don't make such stupid points!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    The purpose of insurance or settlement is to put the injured party back in the same position they were in prior to an incident - not to make them a shed load of money in a claim for a twisted ankle and put someone else bankrupt or out of business in the process. That kind of carry on is the height of scumbagyness (my new word!) and both recipients of cash in said cases (solicitors and 'injured' party) should go to hell for their lies.

    Try saying that to a biker that has been confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life due to some reckless cage driver that has pulled out in front of him. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭PinkFly


    i was in court last year over family law....

    my solictor was a big mistake....

    he kept saying wat a lovely girl i was and that i needed to get a fella...

    and even kissed me on the cheek a gave me a hug after wards....

    i felt violated ....

    :(

    and then he took my money

    :(:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭van der vart


    got divorced after 12 years, got screwed more by the solicitors, than i did in my married life :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Just like every other person that studies hard and dioes their best to get ahead in a highly competitive profession you get the ususal droolers giving them stick. Only in Ireland.:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭boogle


    Why do people insist on classifying an entire group of people based on the fact that they have the same job?

    That's almost as stupid as saying that all people who live in a 3-bed semi are complete ****. They have nothing in common apart from their particular attraction to 3-bed semis.

    Cop on.


  • Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    whiteonion wrote: »
    I haven't met many people who became better by going to the doctor. Improving your health by visiting a doctor? Don't make The Onionator laugh.

    Yes, I'm sure I.V. antibiotics had nothing to do with my tonsillitis getting better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭paddydriver


    A solicitor that can make you loads of money out of a personal injury claim is good, one that is after your blood in a law suit is bad. Swings and roundabouts with them.

    Especially if one of your kids has the misfortune to fall off one in a public play ground!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    I would disagree. I would be considered quite a nice person and I'm hoping to be a solicitor in a few years.

    Also I know quite a few solicitors at the moment. The vast majority would be lovely people that I enjoy talking to and are always nice and helpful to me.

    Yes you will always get the arrogant ones, my law class has shown me that, but you will get that in every single profession that there is

    You would say that! :pac:

    "All the people in my street gang are nice to me. Ergo lovely people":pac:

    I've met quite a few student solicitors over the last few years. Yet to meet one that I would like to do anything for me in the future. It makes me sad sometimes :(


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,442 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    mconigol wrote: »
    You would say that! :pac:

    "All the people in my street gang are nice to me. Ergo lovely people":pac:

    I've met quite a few student solicitors over the last few years. Yet to meet one that I would like to do anything for me in the future. It makes me sad sometimes :(

    I would also have said that 5 years ago when I was still considering medicine as a future career. Trust me there are plenty of law students that I know that I would avoid at all costs, most of them want to be barristers though :D

    95% of the solicitors that I have met have been absolutely lovely people. Again you always get the arrogant ones but that's the same in every profession!

    People love to generalise and base all their opinions on what other people say...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    whiteonion wrote: »
    I haven't met many people who became better by going to the doctor. Improving your health by visiting a doctor? Don't make The Onionator laugh.

    Yes, my good friend. My doctor is always looking out for me and has given me a weekly appointment to improve my health. He says there is something stuck in my backside (although it hasn't caused me any harm as far as I can tell). He suggested that I come back every week so that he can have a poke round in there to prevent it getting worse and to improve my elasticity or something. And he doesn't charge me either as it's a fairly quick procedure. Who's laughing now 'onionator'????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,227 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Just like every other person that studies hard and dioes their best to get ahead in a highly competitive profession you get the ususal droolers giving them stick. Only in Ireland.:rolleyes:

    only in Ireland would you get , 15 year long tribunals , producing very little , yet costing a fortune - who were the real winners from these fiascos ? -
    I think you might find a fair few in the privileged corridors down by the law library or Dublin 4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Nah, plenty of them are good people just doing a job - you'd swear they were all big-shot Moriarty ones. Certainly not as bad as people who get an orgasm out of finding groups to hate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭James Jones


    I would disagree. I would be considered quite a nice person and I'm hoping to be a solicitor in a few years.
    Also I know quite a few solicitors at the moment. The vast majority would be lovely people that I enjoy talking to and are always nice and helpful to me.
    Yes you will always get the arrogant ones, my law class has shown me that, but you will get that in every single profession that there is

    OK so you might be nice but here's my personal story:
    I was involved in a serious accident, separated from my wife, bought my own house with the accident settlement claim and was discriminated against due to my marital status following separation.
    Solicitor 1 overcharged me by €5,000 (then added VAT!). This was refunded (with threatening letter!) following threat of complaint to Law Society.
    Solicitor 2 overcharged me by €3,500 but I got a refund following a complaint to Law Society. Both of these individuals failed to give me the required Section 68 letter.
    Solicitor 3 failed to register my house despite receiving payment for doing so. This was sorted out by Law Society.
    Solicitor 4 gave me advice to go to Equality Tribunal 3 months after incident, despite the requirement to notify the respondent of my complaint within two months. He threatened to take me to court for failing to pay his bill but I told him I wanted €2,000 for his failure ( my case was comparable to THIS CASE). He waived the bill but I threatened him with a complaint to the Law Society as he had not provided a Section 68 letter and so he gave me €2,000.

    So,
    4 solicitors and let down 4 times but got refunds or compensation out of 4 solicitors following complaints (or threats of complaints ) to Law Society. Moral of my story? 100% of solicitors that I have dealt with are **** except for the ones who work for the Law Society. They're G-R-R-R-E--A-T!!!
    I had to defend myself against a ridiculous lawsuit recently, brought against me by an utter pr1ck who thought he was on to a good thing having been encouraged to take action by his equally dishonest financial advisor. On the day of the action his barrister and solicitor advised him to drop the case lest he not only lose the case but have costs and damages to pay as well.
    Both his legal representatives and mine were perfectly professional and were a credit to their companies.
    Obviously not all solicitors are that classy but I haven't met a rogue one yet.

    Yea right! Why didn't they give him this advice BEFORE the day of action? Because it was financially more rewarding for them to let the worthless case go as far as possible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Well I never needed one in a legal dispute or anything so I wont form an opinion based on their job but the few I knew in a personal capacity made it clear that most of those who become solicitors do so because of contacts. Its a very hard profession to become established in without contacts but hey that could be said for a lot of professions in Ireland!


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