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Do you think the 1916 rebels where terrorists?

  • 05-05-2011 09:09PM
    #1
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭


    This is a view that has been cropping up from certain posters all too frequently lately.

    Here is an example from Denerick, who I hope won't mind me singling him a bit out here(can't be arsed looking for other examples, he is certainly not the only one who says this, so this thread is not a go at him I'm just using his post as an example).

    "[the 1916 rebels] were fanatics and terrorists.

    What part of this do you not get?

    I think you'll find that this is a surprisingly common opinion, at least to anyone who has stopped to think and/or read about it for more than five minutes."
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72047045&postcount=16
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72047136&postcount=22


    Now I think this is complete rubbish. The 1916 rebels were heroes in my book, who fought for Irish freedom. Not fanatical terrorists.

    What do you guys think? I will put up a poll, could be interesting.

    Do you think the 1916 rebels were terrorists? 9 votes

    Yes
    0%
    No
    100%
    Sir Digby Chicken CaesarseanybikerPaparazzoGrizzly 45slippy wicketjoe stodgeKeithAFCPauletaben.schlomo 9 votes


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Comments

  • #2
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    No
    Please, no more!


  • #3
    Kiera
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Great! Another thread for you and Keith to bicker in! :rolleyes:


  • #4
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Why isn't that description accurate?


  • #5
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,181 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    No
    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    This is a view that has been cropping up from certain posters all too frequently lately.

    Here is an example from Denerick, who I hope won't mind me singling him a bit out here(can't be arsed looking for other examples, he is certainly not the only one who says this, so this thread is not a go at him I'm just using his post as an example).



    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72047045&postcount=16
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72047136&postcount=22


    Now I think this is complete rubbish. The 1916 rebels where heroes in my book, who fought for Irish freedom. Not fanatical terrorists.

    What do you guys think? I will put up a poll, could be interesting.
    its were,sorry for being pedantic.


  • #6
    Sykk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter..


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  • #7
    KeithM89_old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    Kiera wrote: »
    Great! Another thread for you and Keith to bicker in! :rolleyes:

    And she doesnt mean the cool one... :cool:

    :p


  • #8
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    ben.schlomo wrote: »
    its were,sorry for being pedantic.
    Thanks for that, I can never remember which to use.


  • #9
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    This is a view that has been cropping up from certain posters all too frequently lately.

    Here is an example from Denerick, who I hope won't mind me singling him a bit out here(can't be arsed looking for other examples, he is certainly not the only one who says this, so this thread is not a go at him I'm just using his post as an example).



    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72047045&postcount=16
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72047136&postcount=22


    Now I think this is complete rubbish. The 1916 rebels where heroes in my book, who fought for Irish freedom. Not fanatical terrorists.

    What do you guys think? I will put up a poll, could be interesting    .

    Isn't any "terrorist" someone else' "freedom fighter"


  • #10
    Daegerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    I think the person who suggests that they were terrorists, is in fact a terrorist.


  • #11
    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    No
    yes of course they were.


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  • #12
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    they were bloody-minded ideologically driven fools with no popular support, but they didn't attack a civilian population, though they did bring massive damage to their city with no aim but a blood sacrifice. They didn't have a useful plan with a reasonable expectation of success, so while I have no time for their actions, they weren't terrorists, just morons.


  • #13
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Who's going to close this thread?


  • #14
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    No - They were soldiers, like any other. I don't do the word 'terrorist'. Like I've said before, it's a term coined by those with a sizeable media sway, to portray one side as 'baddies' and the other as 'goodies'.

    The leaders of the Rising were brave men, with incredible conviction and courage.


  • #15
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    yes they were.
    They had very little popular support remember.

    What would you think of a group today if they took over various parts of a city and had a shoot out with the regular army and police


  • #16
    Kiera
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Who's going to close this thread?

    My money is on Micky!


  • #17
    Fuhrer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    What I really want to know is what KeithAFC thinks about this


  • #18
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »
    yes they were.
    They had very little popular support remember.

    What would you think of a group today if they took over various parts of a city and had a shoot out with the regular army and police

    Suicide bombers. Because the herald says so


  • #19
    Thatnastyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Thatnastyboy


    can we have a 3rd option on the poll?

    I put forward,

    This dead horse has been beaten enough, its merely a strange stain on the footpath


  • #20
    Joe10000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Joe10000


    ter·ror·ist
    [ter-er-ist]
    - noun 1.*person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates violence or threats of violence, esp., in pursuit of politcal goals.

    If you accept that definition then there is only one answer.

    Either way they are responsible for the
    creation of this state and should be recognised for same. Call them what you like.


  • #21
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    No
    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    The 1916 rebels were heroes in my book, who fought for Irish freedom. Not fanatical terrorists.
    Thanks for clearing that up, I honestly didn't know that's what you believed.


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  • #22
    ascanbe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    Were the A-Team terrorists?


  • #23
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Kiera wrote: »
    My money is on Micky!

    11\10 the field


  • #24
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    It wasn't me! wrote: »
    They didn't have a useful plan with a reasonable expectation of success

    No, they only brought Britain to the a real bargaining table for the first time, and gained popular support for independence - evident by the results of the general elections less than 2 years later.

    No success my hole. The Easter Rising is the reason why we are no longer a part of the United Kingdom. It was never meant to succeed militarily - it was meant to succeed politically, and succeed it did.


  • #25
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Kiera wrote: »
    Great! Another thread for you and Keith to bicker in! :rolleyes:
    Excellent contribution there kiera. If you dont like the thread and have no meaningful contribution there is not much point in you posting is there?

    Besides I was shocked to discover that keith is on my http://www.boards.ie/love.php list so we are best pals really.


  • #26
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Thatnastyboy wrote: »
    can we have a 3rd option on the poll?

    I put forward,

    This dead horse has been beaten enough, its merely a strange stain on the footpath

    Why didn't they blow up other sh1t


  • #27
    Kiera
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    orourkeda wrote: »
    11\10 the field

    *wush*

    Wut? :confused:

    /note i have no idea about betting terms if that is one? :)


  • #28
    Thatnastyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Thatnastyboy


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Why didn't they blow up other sh1t

    :eek: as in?


  • #29
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    No
    I would say yes. That is what i have voted for. I don't see how they weren't


  • #30
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Thatnastyboy wrote: »
    :eek: as in?

    The asgard :eek:


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  • #31
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    In fairness to Kiera, the amount of political threads on AH is mind-blowing. I come on here to talk about porn, the westboro baptist church and to watch Terry get naked in public.

    I can see why people see a trend in topics.


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