How thin is too thin? (fashion, natural, figure, weight)

zirazira · 05-05-2011 03:39AM #1

Is being very thin still in fashion? Or has the style gone to athletic? I've always been athletic and higher in weight than recommended, but I'm thinking of doing a total makeover for professional reasons (I'm a musician) and dropping the weight down to a much lower setpoint.If i can wear this skinny dress I mean too thin.

TaraFoxglove · 05-05-2011 03:41AM

zirazira wrote: »

Is being very thin still in fashion? Or has the style gone to athletic?

Nah, very thin is still "in" for models as the fashion industry dictates. Most of the late 80s, early 90s supermodels (your Cindys, Claudias, Christys) would be too "big" by today's standards which is effed up when you think about it.

Even Victoria's Secret models are going that way, and they used to be always be a byword for curves in all the right places. :eek:

On a personal level, "too thin" comes down to the individual and their height, build etc.

deathrider · 05-05-2011 03:43AM

There's thin line (with aboslutely no pun intended... Ok, maybe a little pun) between thin a skinny. Thin can be hot, skinny... Not so much.

Jesus Wept · 05-05-2011 03:43AM

All this 'in' shite is a load of me hole.

TaraFoxglove · 05-05-2011 03:47AM

The-Rigger wrote: »

All this 'in' shite is a load of me hole.

I agree, I was just talking about industry standards.

xsiborg · 05-05-2011 03:53AM

if you feel good in it (or out of it for that matter!

) then wear what the hell you like and dont buy into media nonsense about whats in and whats out, last year they were hailing beth ditto for her curves, then this year jessica simpson is getting flak for putting on weight. hell just look at what bridget jones has done to renee zwelliger, the media hails her frumpy bridget jones character as being encouragement for "real" women, yet as renee zwelliger, the same magazines will say how "great she looks now she has her real body back" when her shoulder blades are promient in a backless dress... :rolleyes:

Paddy Cow · 05-05-2011 05:23AM

xsiborg wrote: »

if you feel good in it (or out of it for that matter! ) then wear what the hell you like and dont buy into media nonsense about whats in and whats out, last year they were hailing beth ditto for her curves, then this year jessica simpson is getting flak for putting on weight. hell just look at what bridget jones has done to renee zwelliger, the media hails her frumpy bridget jones character as being encouragement for "real" women, yet as renee zwelliger, the same magazines will say how "great she looks now she has her real body back" when her shoulder blades are promient in a backless dress... :rolleyes:

That term drives me bonkers! ALL women are real. The papers/mags are the biggest perpetrators of the skinny/fat divide. They print conflicting rubbish all the time. One day a woman showing off her size 18 body is an inspiration to "real women" and the next, someone who goes from a size 10 to 12 is a fat, lazy heifer, who needs to take her arse down the gym pronto :rolleyes:

TaraFoxglove · 05-05-2011 05:37AM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

That term drives me bonkers! ALL women are real. The papers/mags are the biggest perpetrators of the skinny/fat divide. They print conflicting rubbish all the time. One day a woman showing off her size 18 body is an inspiration to "real women" and the next, someone who goes from a size 10 to 12 is a fat, lazy heifer, who needs to take her arse down the gym pronto :rolleyes:

Yup, one of the most inane phrases popularised by the meedja. All women are real, FFS, even the one battling with an eating disorder.

up for anything · 05-05-2011 07:56AM

That dress is horrible.

Swampy · 05-05-2011 08:08AM

I've never heard anyone complain about the figure of a Victoria Secret Model.

That should be your goal.

05-05-2011 08:25AM

Depends... Asian women look great when they're tiny. 40 kilos is about right.

kfallon · 05-05-2011 08:29AM

Too thin has to be a major turn off in women! Half them models that are on the catwalks you wouldn't ride if they had pedals!

we'llallhavetea_old · 05-05-2011 08:36AM

please dont buy or wear that hideous dress op. that alone is a crime against fashion.

stovelid · 05-05-2011 08:45AM

Make sure to keep moving on the street if you wear that dress as if you stand still, cars will keep pulling over to the kerb.

WindSock · 05-05-2011 08:49AM

stovelid wrote: »

Make sure to keep moving on the street if you wear that dress as if you stand still, cars will keep pulling over to the kerb.

Yeah I always thought the phrase 'to stop traffic' was more of an insult.

wild_cat · 05-05-2011 08:50AM

Swampy wrote: »

I've never heard anyone complain about the figure of a Victoria Secret Model.

That should be your goal.

You do realise that you can't gain or loose weight in specific places? Fat has to come off/go on the body over all or comes off first in different areas of the body depending on your build or make up.

If I could gain weight just on my tits i'd get lock jaw from smiling.

biko · 05-05-2011 08:57AM

After Hours -> Fashion & Appearance

tan11ie · 05-05-2011 09:26AM

Too thin = Victoria Beckham

serenacat · 05-05-2011 02:06PM

I think curves are making a comeback, the whole 50s hourglass look is in.
Beyonce body is amazing she is my goal as she obviously works out but has curves too, overall she looks very healthy

In this photo below who looks better?? I prefer Liona Lewis (sp)

TaraFoxglove · 05-05-2011 02:22PM

Swampy wrote: »

I've never heard anyone complain about the figure of a Victoria Secret Model.

That should be your goal.

Yeah, I mean they used to be the standard for enviable figures but now - :eek:.

CK2010 · 05-05-2011 03:02PM

OP i honestly think you should just aim to be the best you you can be. not skinny, not whats 'in', just a healthy, more fit version of you. dont go on fad diets to get yourself thin or anything like that, just eat right, exercise a bit more and you'll naturally feel and look better. honestly.

I was always thin, really sickly thin, no matter what i ate. i hated hearing girls say 'curves are in, you dont need to be thin' and all that crap. people cant drastically alter their natural body shape. if you're naturally thin with small boobs you're never natrally going to look like beyonce. if you eat more to get your 'curves' you can bet it'll go to your tummy and your thighs in the form of flab! which happened to me after having my daughter!

now i go to the gym and eat healthy, i have a 'toned' body, well its getting there!

its neat and more defined, and has a few muscles here and there that give me some shape but its in no way 'curvy' (apart from my huge bum :rolleyes:) because i know i never will be curvy unless i get surgery!

i really urge you just to look at what kind of body you naturally have and aim for the best version of that you can be. im not saying big girls cant slim down or anything like that, of course you can completely transform your body with hard work but theres only so far nature will let you go unfortunately.

Semele · 05-05-2011 04:26PM

It's an unanswerable question tbh. You can have an opinion on what is too thin for a given individual but that's it. There's no definitive answer. What looks too big/ just right/ too thin is dependant on height and build every bit as much as weight.

I think Beyonce and Leona look great in those photos and I love that curvy but toned look. I, however, will never have that because I don't have that build to start with. If I were to be that weight (proportionally speaking, leave height differences out for simplicity here) I would look horrible because I have tiny hips and thus a propensity to a fat tummy no matter how thin I get. I'd have 20 spare tyres at their weight and no amount of exercise would give me a toned look without dropping some weight first. On the other hand I have friends who have a wider pelvis and they can carry a lot more weight and still look great, because they maintain a flat stomach, Beyonce/Leona style. Basically, when they gain weight they do it evenly all over, whereas mine goes straight to my stomach and no amount of sit-ups makes that look ok!

This is why BMI is a rubbish indicator of size. I'm carrying too much weight for me to look/feel good at the minute but am still at the low end of the "healthy" spectrum.

fghijkl · 05-05-2011 07:34PM

but I'm thinking of doing a total makeover for professional reasons (I'm a musician) and dropping the weight down to a much lower setpoint.

Eh sorry i'm not seeing the link between dropping weight and furthering your music career

, you're either a good musician or not surely?

Just off the top of my head:
Adele is a heavier girl than most pop singers and she's huge at the moment.
The lead singer of the go team is very athletic and they've been pretty successful.
Nicole from the pussycat dolls is fairly thin and she's doing well.

I don't see how losing a sh**load of weight will change how talented you are? And i think changing your body shape just to "fit in" with current "trends" is insanity. If you want to lose weight do it for the right reason, i.e to be healthy, but not a misguided attempt to make your career more successful.

E.T. · 05-05-2011 07:39PM

Swampy wrote: »

I've never heard anyone complain about the figure of a Victoria Secret Model.

That should be your goal.

You missed all the controversy over one of the Victoria Secret Models weight last month then? (I read way too many crappy celeb sites)

As the site (dlisted) said below the picture "When your arms are a successful hiding place for your waist during a game of hide-and-seek, you know you're a serious kind of skinny."

05-05-2011 08:30PM

holy fcuk that middle one looks ill :eek::eek:

Dudess · 05-05-2011 11:08PM

When it interferes with health - this is obviously a non medical opinion, but a woman may have an extremely slender build, however I assume once her skin, hair, teeth, nails are healthy, her menstrual cycle is as normal, and she's eating right, well, once she doesn't lose any weight, all would seem ok.

I saw a girl recently though whose eyes were bulging and dead-looking, she had massive dark circles under them, her skin was grey and her cheeks were hollow. Her actual build might be ok for some very petite women, yet it was obviously underweight for her. She looked anorexic, poor girl.

Sibylla · 05-05-2011 11:18PM

In the above photo of the Victoria's secret models, The blonde model in the middle looks grossly underweight and quite unwell where as the other two look healthy. You should aim to be healthy, never skinny. It is recommended to stay within your B.M.I. as a guideline for what's suitable for you. Right now among celeb culture of course thin is in, there are a number of curvier celebs who are still slim, however the unwell, underweight look never looks good. Some people are naturally skinny but still look good when you are forcing yourself to go underneath your appropriate weight it's obvious in your skin, hair etc.

fghijkl · 05-05-2011 11:48PM

I saw a girl recently though whose eyes were bulging and dead-looking, she had massive dark circles under them, her skin was grey and her cheeks were hollow. Her actual build might be ok for some very petite women, yet it was obviously underweight for her. She looked anorexic, poor girl.

There's a woman who goes to my local gym occasionally who looks just like this, i have no idea why she is being allowed in, the staff just seem to turn a blind eye, i mean she is skeletal, just watching her working out is very disturbing

I was half of mind to say something to a staff member one day but i'm sure i'd be told it was none of my business, and it's not but it's just so sad

05-05-2011 11:55PM

fghijkl wrote: »

Eh sorry i'm not seeing the link between dropping weight and furthering your music career , you're either a good musician or not surely?

You have to admit, it is a valid question. Personally I think Adele is great, I think she always looks comfortable in her skin and she wears her weight well, you only notice most of it when looking at her in relation to other people. But there's no denying the amount of scrutiny someone (particularly women) will come under when trying to get into a business that involves publicity. When I saw this thread, like you, I thought, Adele's got weight on her and she looks great and her career is good. But as for girls who are in the public eye and thin, I could sit here all day listing them.

However even though the question is valid, and thin is still in, the 50's trend at the moment has been going for a while now, and I think it's got one major factor behind it. Finally girls with curves (not even weight necessarily) have a style that suits them. It's not that curves are in, it's that people are getting tired of looking at the same shape all the time. Basically, everything is in, once it's dressed nicely! I think especially with singers, there is a lot more appreciation now for girls who look less like a fashion model and more like someone who's done hard graft to get to where she is. Once you're not overweight I'd say you're fine.

Dudess · 06-05-2011 12:34AM

I just don't understand why under-nourished looking girls are used to showcase designer fashion. The clothes tend not to look good on them. I realise slender is a must, but wouldn't the clothes surely look better on those with healthily slim physiques like those of e.g. Michelle Pfeiffer, Heidi Klum, Halle Berry? In fairness, prior to the "waif" trend, "supermodels" like Claudia Schiffer, Cindy Crawford, Naomi Campbell, Linda Evangelista, Yasmin Le Bon, Christy Turlington, Tyra Banks etc looked healthy.

06-05-2011 11:02AM

Apparently (well the excuse they use) is so that people will look at the clothes, and not the models.

Fashion models really are too thin these days, and always will be! But that's just how it is.

And that whole "real women" thing is so bloody stupid. And "real curves". Blah blah! At my highest weight (and probably the highest weight I could ever reach without being...pregnant) my bmi was 21. Some people just can't put weight on! My cousin is a size 6, she's very thin. However you wouldn't really notice it as her boobs are massive and her figure would be considered very "curvy". Similar to Beyonce! But then I have friends who would be the same height and weight as her but would be considered way too thin as they have no curves.

How thin is too thin? (fashion, natural, figure, weight)

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