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Any results kanturk 3 day?

  • 02-05-2011 03:16PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭


    Nothing on cycling ireland or Irishcycling would love to hear an update.
    Failed with 200 m to go last year to win the final stage and unfortunately broken this year and unable to compete

    Any results? Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭Home:Ballyhoura


    A2/A3 Race:
    1. Damien Shaw (Mullingar Lakeside Wheelers)
    2. Wes Murphy (Dublin Wheelers)
    3. Tom Shanahan (Limerick CC)

    I have the GC after the TT but that probably didn't change much by the finish....Shaw won the 1st stage and the time trial. Damian Travers (Dungarvan CC) won the 3rd stage and Declan Hanrahan (Worldwide Cycles) won the 4th and final soaking wet stage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    Thanks for that. No info to be found yet on the websites.

    Thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭zzzzzzzz


    A2/A3 Race:
    1. Damien Shaw (Mullingar Lakeside Wheelers)
    2. Wes Murphy (Dublin Wheelers)
    3. Tom Shanahan (Limerick CC)

    I have the GC after the TT but that probably didn't change much by the finish....Shaw won the 1st stage and the time trial. Damian Travers (Dungarvan CC) won the 3rd stage and Declan Hanrahan (Worldwide Cycles) won the 4th and final soaking wet stage!

    What was the winning time in the TT?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭Home:Ballyhoura


    What was the winning time in the TT?

    10:28 :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭zzzzzzzz


    10:28 :eek:

    Ouch!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭JacksonHeightsOwn


    10:28 :eek:

    by some 19 year old on a normal race bike, he wasnt even on a TT bike!!

    my brother did 11.06, 4th in A4's, but still only got 1 measly point for it,

    just to clarify the measly 1 point, everybody that competed got 1 point, so why bother put in all that effort to get such a good time just to get the same points as the lad that came last :mad:

    the weather was shocking this morning, credit to anyone that finished that stage, worse rain ive seen in a long time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Pat Kavanagh


    just to clarify the measly 1 point, everybody that competed got 1 point, so why bother put in all that effort to get such a good time just to get the same points as the lad that came last :mad:

    Ya, the fella that came fifth got the same result as the fella who came 40th, and the same as everybody in between. Made no sense to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭cormpat


    the weather was shocking this morning, credit to anyone that finished that stage, worse rain ive seen in a long time

    Absolutely miserable this morning! By the look of things there was a lot that didn't start the A4 race this morning, compared to yesterday.

    Well done to Kanturk CC for putting on a great event, would like to think I'll be back again next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭JacksonHeightsOwn


    cormpat wrote: »
    Absolutely miserable this morning! By the look of things there was a lot that didn't start the A4 race this morning, compared to yesterday.

    Well done to Kanturk CC for putting on a great event, would like to think I'll be back again next year.

    i think the fact that the race wasnt done by a timed GC and just points, alot of riders weighed up the risks with gaining 1 little point, and went with their health instead, understandable really,

    the rain really was intense.

    yesterdays stage was great viewing though, amateur sports at it finest, credit to all involved!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭J Madone


    Well Chris, how did your big brother get on, and the rest of the Tiernans lads?
    Great night on Saturday , very impressed with your team set up!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭JacksonHeightsOwn


    J Madone wrote: »
    Well Chris, how did your big brother get on, and the rest of the Tiernans lads?
    Great night on Saturday , very impressed with your team set up!

    they all threw a wobbly when they found out the race was done on points, so did a runner, besides, Tuck had to be back in work for 5

    Bren inparticular was not a happy bunny, in fairness to him, he did a smashing time in the TT, got 4th,

    on sunday, he thought the race lead was decided by time, so on that stage he punctured at the foot of the first climb on the second lap, lost close to a minute with perhaps only 20km left yet dug in like Cancellara (and im not bull****ting), and finally got onto the back of the group right on the line in Kanturk, so after all that effort in 2 stages, he only had 1 point, he was damn near tears. he thought he was still in the top 5

    a special mention to some chap that helped Bren from Tiernans back onto the main group on the Sunday, Alan something, ill have his name tomorrow, and my god does this man deserve a clap on the back!!! trojan work by this guy.

    as for the "team set up", you missed sunday night, six 12oz sirloin steaks and close to what seemed like 15 stone of pasta was cooked, and mainly munched by our very own strength and conditioning expert "John".

    i swear that lad has hollow legs,

    we had great craic on saturday though Ed, very nice to meet you indeed, some great stories and often inspiring ones too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭J Madone


    I thought the lads all knew that they were 3 separate races as A4s this year aren't allowed have stAge races. Great effort from Bren in the TT and from the puncture. Was glad to see John and Tuck getting top 10 in the bunch sprint. Was not an easy stage yesterday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭fran oconnor


    J Madone wrote: »
    I thought the lads all knew that they were 3 separate races as A4s this year aren't allowed have stAge races. Great effort from Bren in the TT and from the puncture. Was glad to see John and Tuck getting top 10 in the bunch sprint. Was not an easy stage yesterday!
    Tuck and John done great, but Dave also did really well to bring himself right from the back of the bunch, he was saying he was cramped up like mad but gave it a good old push to get back up to the group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭J Madone


    Knew I forgot someone , great weekend and nice to meet you Fran. The fastest wheel change man in the country!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭fran oconnor


    J Madone wrote: »
    Knew I forgot someone , great weekend and nice to meet you Fran. The fastest wheel change man in the country!
    Great to meet you to, i have to say Chris takes the honours for the quick wheel change for Bren on Sunday as i was driving. Good weekend had by all though, and by the end of the season i'm sure there will be one or two more weekends away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭First Focus


    Any sign of pictures on any site, its disappointing coverage, especially with the terrible conditions
    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭cormpat


    Tuck and John done great, but Dave also did really well to bring himself right from the back of the bunch, he was saying he was cramped up like mad but gave it a good old push to get back up to the group.

    I was in that group that chased back on after getting dropped on the climb. We were like men possessed! I tried attacking coming into Kanturk then, got about 100m up the road but the well was dry, couldn't even contest the sprint then. Have to get the tactics right!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,400 ✭✭✭Caroline_ie


    So it was a 'pretend' stage race for A4? :eek:

    Any idea where we can get the TT times for A2?A3?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,520 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    J Madone wrote: »
    I thought the lads all knew that they were 3 separate races as A4s this year aren't allowed have stAge races.

    AFAIK there is nothing in the rules that says A4s can't have proper time-based stage races.

    The rules DO say:

    "Holders of an A4 licence may only compete with other A4 licence holders with the exception of handicap races."

    ...but that just means they're not allowed in stage races with other cats.

    Were transponders used in the other stages?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,682 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    AFAIK the rules state A4's cannot compete with other categories except as past of a handicap race.
    This is the reason they cannot take part in existing stage races.
    There is noting I can find in the regulations which stops the running of an A4 only stage race .....

    The relevant rules are copied directly below

    http://www.cyclingireland.ie/getattachment/6d0cb862-3446-4e33-90bd-555f9bd0ec31/TR-R--2011-Final-Jan-11-V18.aspx
    TECHNICAL REGULATIONS
    CHAPTER T1 - LICENCES
    1. All persons riding a race or carrying out any function, in connection with any team, or with the
    organisation of any race, will hold a current licence from their National Federation, save marshals or
    other persons who are assisting in the running of the race, but who are not the race organisers. The
    organiser will be able to identify these non-licence holders if requested by the Chief Commissaire.
    2. Before competing or participating in any approved race, a person may be requested to produce a current
    licence which must be signed by the licence holder to the appointed Commissaire, for inspection. Failure
    or refusal to do so may result in the person being prohibited from taking part in the race.
    3. A person, not being a member of a National Federation nor under suspension from a National
    Federation, may take out a one-day licence to comply with rules T1.1 and T1.2 above. One-day Licences
    are not valid for National Championships other than MTB Championships.
    4. A rider’s licence may contain both the name of his UCI Registered Team and his Cycling Ireland
    Registered Club. (See Glossary)
    5. A rider being a member of both a Team and a Club as defined in rule T1.4 above, unless given written
    approval by the Board of Cycling Ireland, must compete under the Team name save for the following
    exceptions.
    (a) A National, Provincial or County team selection
    (b) As a member of a mixed team
    (c) In a stage race where the approved special race regulations allows for a rider to compete as a
    guest, on a team other than that stated on his licence. No more that one guest rider will be
    permitted on any team with a maximum of 4 riders and 2 guest riders on a team of 5 or more
    riders.
    6. In respect of rules T1.5(b) and T1.5(c) above, a rider participating on a composite team or as a guest
    rider, must be in possession of a letter from his Team/Club giving permission to compete for a team other
    than that as stated on his licence.
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    CHAPTER T2 - GRADING/CATEGORIES
    1. Grading which is based on age will be determined by subtracting the year of birth from the current year
    With the exception of Youth (10) and Youth (12).
    2. Licences will be issued for the following grades: -
    (a) Youth (10) A rider who has not yet reached their 10th birthday. Such a licence will be
    restricted and will exclude competition on open roads. But will permit the holder to
    complete in Mountain Bike, Track, Skills, Cyclo Cross and events, which are run
    on closed circuits. (Maximum gear is in line with gearing for 12’s)
    (b) Youth (12) Riders who have reached their 10th birthday, 11 and 12 years of age in the current
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    (c) Youth (14) 13 and 14 years of age in the current year.
    (d) Youth (16) 15 and 16 year of age in the current year.
    (e) Junior* 17 and 18 year of age in the current year.
    (f) Espoirs (U23)* 19 to 22 years of age in the current year and not a member of a UCI Pro Team
    (g) Elite* 23 years of age or over in the current year.
    (h) Veterans* an optional class for those in the 40 year or over age group.
    A rider who satisfies the criteria above regarding a Veterans licence may only
    apply for such a licence on their initial licence application for that year
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    * Categories may be A1, A2, A3 or A4
    Any rider who is members of a UCI registered team will be deemed to be an A+ rider.
    3. Where appropriate the following grades are recognised by the UCI.
    MALE: -
    (a) Youth Aged 16 years and under.
    (b) Juniors 17 and 18 years of age.
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    Pro Team .
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    This is an optional category.
    FEMALE: -
    (a) Youth Aged 16 years and under.
    (b) Juniors 17 and 18 years of age.
    (c) Elite 19 years of age and over.
    (d) Master 30 years of age and over. This is an optional category.
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    CHAPTER T3 - UPGRADING
    1. Points will be awarded on all open races in Ireland as follows: -
    (a) In road races up to 50km, points to be awarded 3-2-1;
    (b) In road races over 50km and up to 100km, points to be awarded: 6-5-4-3-2-1;
    (c) In road races over 100km, points to be awarded, 8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1;
    (d) National League road races points will be awarded 12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1;
    (e) In any road race with 20 riders or less points to be awarded 3-2-1;
    (f) National Senior Road Race Championship – Double points as detailed in (d) above;
    (g) National Veterans and National A3 Road Race Championship, National Junior Championships,
    National Women’s Championships 12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3.
    (h) National Time Trial Championships 6-5-4-3-2-1;
    (i) National Hill Climb Championship 6-5-4-3-2-1;
    (j) National Criterium Championship 12-10-8-6-4-2;
    (k) International Calendar single day races – Double points awarded as (d) above;
    (l) Stage races – per stage as (a), (b), (c) above in respect of road stages and time trial stages 3-2-1,
    final general classification - points to be awarded: 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1.;
    (m) International Calendar stage races – per stage as (f) and (h) above, final general classification
    points to be awarded 34-32-30-28-26-24-22-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-6;
    Points Table
    Placing 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
    RR up to 50km T3.1.(a) 3 2 1
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    RR over 100km T3.1.(c) 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
    National League T3.1.(d) 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
    Race < 20 riders T3.1.(e) 3 2 1
    National RR Champ T3.1.(f) 24 22 20 18 16 14 12 10 8 6 4 2
    National Vet, A3 Senior Men,
    Junior & Womens RR Champs T3.1.(g) 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3
    National TT Champ T3.1.(h) 6 5 4 3 2 1
    National HC Champ T3.1.(i) 6 5 4 3 2 1
    National Crit Champ T3.1.(j) 12 10 8 6 4 2
    UCI Race Single Day T3.1.(k) 24 22 20 18 16 14 12 10 8 6 4 2
    Stage Race Final GC (1) T3.1.(l) 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
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    Note (1) - Stage Points as (a), (b), (c) above in respect of road stages with 3-2-1 for TT Stage
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    (d) An A4 rider on amassing 10 points, cumulative across years, will be upgraded to A3.
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    3. (a) A junior on reaching senior grade will not be categorised as A1 or above.
    (b) An A2 rider on amassing 15 points in a calendar year will be upgraded to A1.
    (c) An A2 rider with less than 15 points at year end will carry 50% of the total obtained, rounded down,
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    (d) An A2 rider, on the first full year following their upgrade and each year thereafter, must obtain 6
    points or revert back to A3 grade with 7 points.
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    points or revert back to A2 with 7 points.
    4. (a) Senior riders in the year of their 40th birthday and each year thereafter may apply for a veteran’s
    designation on their licence.
    (b) A1 riders in the year of their 50th birthday or greater may apply for an A2 licence before the
    commencement of the following season. ;.
    (c) Subject to Board approval I.V.C.A. members not in possession of a Cycling Ireland licence will be
    deemed to be an A3 rider.
    Notes:
    i. A1 riders with zero points at the end of the 2010 season will not be automatically downgraded but may
    apply for downgrading to A2.
    ii. A2 riders with zero points at the end of the 2010 season will not be automatically downgraded but may
    apply for downgrading to A3.
    iii. Applications for re-grading in respect of points (i) and (ii) above must be submitted to the National
    Grading Officer during the months of November and June.
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    from season 2010 to 2011 to allow for the smooth changeover to the new system.
    5. Upon reaching the necessary points for upgrading, the riders will submit their licence and number to
    Cycling Ireland for re-issue with their new category.
    6. Commissaires have the power to withdraw a rider's licence if his points total is in excess of that required
    for upgrading and to submit it in accordance with rule T3.5 above.
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    from that point in time.
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    National Grading Officer he may be re-graded as A2 or A3.
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    may request, with the riders agreement, that they be re-graded. However all decisions are subject to the
    final approval of the National Grading Officer. Riders upgraded under this rule will be subject to the
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭zzzzzzzz


    Any sign of pictures on any site, its disappointing coverage, especially with the terrible conditions
    :confused:

    There are some here:
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Limerick-Cycling-Club/148776895134506


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭niceonetom


    A really great weekend. I learned a lot and I even enjoyed some of it.
    1. Stage racing is hard.
    2. Cork has some ROUGH roads. Double bar tape and sturdy bottle cages rough.
    3. I need to race more aggressively and not take so long to get my race-head on.
    4. You can never be too well warmed up for a sub-10km time-trial.
    5. There are loads of cyclists MUCH stronger than me.
    6. This will continue to be true no matter how much I improve.
    7. Stage racing is hard.

    On an organisational basis, it's a bit of a mixed bag in the way it's run - absolutely fine if you're just riding it for experience and a laugh but if I was taking it really seriously and thought I had any chance of a good result I would probably find the lack of info about routes, times, standings etc. a bit frustrating. That said, the marshalling was exceptionally good for our (A2/3) races and the courses were challenging without ever feeling unsafe. The general atmosphere was really good and friendly without any of that cycling-is-serious-business attitude and officiousness that occasionally creeps in at some races.

    The bunch felt good too - very well behaved and safe with very very little in the way of nervy braking or kamikaze attempts to make up for lack of legs with a surfeit of balls.

    The winner, Shaw, rode like a monster. I had a quiet enough time on the first stage so didn't see him at all up the road in the break, but for stages 3 and 4 he just dominated proceedings with brute horsepower. On the last (horrifically wet) stage he rode the last two laps - about 44km - chasing the break unaided, while the rest of us took turns trying to jump off the front. He was playing with us, or that's how it seemed. He'd give you a gap and he wouldn't jump after you, but if more than one or two bridged to you he'd, gently gently, up the pace and tow the bunch up to you as you cooked out there in the wind. You could have 10 seconds but any more would be greeted with more watts and you would be back in the bunch where you belonged. He did this again and again and again, all while riding on the hoods and looking completely unflustered. Very impressive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭Home:Ballyhoura


    Any sign of pictures on any site, its disappointing coverage, especially with the terrible conditions
    :confused:
    I have hundreds of photos, I might pick out a selection and send them onto Irish Cycling or else put them up online somewhere for people to see. Also, as aidan.offbeat said I put some on the Limerick CC facebook page.....
    Any idea where we can get the TT times for A2?A3?
    See attachments below! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭crashoveroid


    I have hundreds of photos, I might pick out a selection and send them onto Irish Cycling or else put them up online somewhere for people to see. Also, as aidan.offbeat said I put some on the Limerick CC facebook page.....


    See attachments below! ;)

    I was 26th here that was the easiest part of the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭cormpat


    I have hundreds of photos, I might pick out a selection and send them onto Irish Cycling or else put them up online somewhere for people to see.

    Would love if you could stick them up online, if it's not too much trouble....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭First Focus


    I have hundreds of photos, I might pick out a selection and send them onto Irish Cycling or else put them up online somewhere for people to see. Also, as aidan.offbeat said I put some on the Limerick CC facebook page.....


    See attachments below! ;)
    Thanks Ballyhoura, i'd love if you put them up online also, thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭Home:Ballyhoura


    cormpat wrote: »
    Would love if you could stick them up online, if it's not too much trouble....
    Thanks Ballyhoura, i'd love if you put them up online also, thanks again

    Alright lads will put em up later on if I get a chance...what website would you recommend to you that is free? I use flickr for other stuff but they start asking for money after you have uploaded 200 photos which would happen to me after about 1 race!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭JacksonHeightsOwn


    niceonetom wrote: »
    A really great weekend. I learned a lot and I even enjoyed some of it.
    1. Stage racing is hard.
    2. Cork has some ROUGH roads. Double bar tape and sturdy bottle cages rough.
    3. I need to race more aggressively and not take so long to get my race-head on.
    4. You can never be too well warmed up for a sub-10km time-trial.
    5. There are loads of cyclists MUCH stronger than me.
    6. This will continue to be true no matter how much I improve.
    7. Stage racing is hard.

    On an organisational basis, it's a bit of a mixed bag in the way it's run - absolutely fine if you're just riding it for experience and a laugh but if I was taking it really seriously and thought I had any chance of a good result I would probably find the lack of info about routes, times, standings etc. a bit frustrating. That said, the marshalling was exceptionally good for our (A2/3) races and the courses were challenging without ever feeling unsafe. The general atmosphere was really good and friendly without any of that cycling-is-serious-business attitude and officiousness that occasionally creeps in at some races.

    The bunch felt good too - very well behaved and safe with very very little in the way of nervy braking or kamikaze attempts to make up for lack of legs with a surfeit of balls.

    The winner, Shaw, rode like a monster. I had a quiet enough time on the first stage so didn't see him at all up the road in the break, but for stages 3 and 4 he just dominated proceedings with brute horsepower. On the last (horrifically wet) stage he rode the last two laps - about 44km - chasing the break unaided, while the rest of us took turns trying to jump off the front. He was playing with us, or that's how it seemed. He'd give you a gap and he wouldn't jump after you, but if more than one or two bridged to you he'd, gently gently, up the pace and tow the bunch up to you as you cooked out there in the wind. You could have 10 seconds but any more would be greeted with more watts and you would be back in the bunch where you belonged. He did this again and again and again, all while riding on the hoods and looking completely unflustered. Very impressive.

    the marshalling was excellent, and all fair play to everyone that helped out in that respect.

    some things that need addressing would be the lack of information on routes, start and finish, times etc......

    also, a cup of tea and a cake for the lads after they race wouldnt go a miss,

    i personally think each team entered should be given a race pack, with Race Rules explained, Race Routes, time of sign ons, and where the start is, in relation to the sign on

    also, i dont expect people to have the results as soon as the race ends, but again, explain in your race pack when the results will be issued, that way it would save everybody asking for them.

    its just small things, but i think for a race the size of this one, a small race pack should be provided, because most of the competitors travelled from afar, and alot of the information seemed very "cloak and dagger"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭fran oconnor


    the marshalling was excellent, and all fair play to everyone that helped out in that respect.

    some things that need addressing would be the lack of information on routes, start and finish, times etc......

    also, a cup of tea and a cake for the lads after they race wouldnt go a miss,

    i personally think each team entered should be given a race pack, with Race Rules explained, Race Routes, time of sign ons, and where the start is, in relation to the sign on

    also, i dont expect people to have the results as soon as the race ends, but again, explain in your race pack when the results will be issued, that way it would save everybody asking for them.

    its just small things, but i think for a race the size of this one, a small race pack should be provided, because most of the competitors travelled from afar, and alot of the information seemed very "cloak and dagger"
    I couldn't agree more, the guy that was taking times at the finish on the TT missed about three people because he was being asked for times by so many people, it should be a case that you either wait around until it's all over to get them, or head off straight after the race and get them the next morning IMO.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭crashoveroid


    the marshalling was excellent, and all fair play to everyone that helped out in that respect.

    some things that need addressing would be the lack of information on routes, start and finish, times etc......

    also, a cup of tea and a cake for the lads after they race wouldnt go a miss,

    i personally think each team entered should be given a race pack, with Race Rules explained, Race Routes, time of sign ons, and where the start is, in relation to the sign on

    also, i dont expect people to have the results as soon as the race ends, but again, explain in your race pack when the results will be issued, that way it would save everybody asking for them.

    its just small things, but i think for a race the size of this one, a small race pack should be provided, because most of the competitors travelled from afar, and alot of the information seemed very "cloak and dagger"

    Results were issued at the sign on for each stage thats fairly Standard for most stage races.

    Race packs are a good idea but do cost money and as far as i know there was no sponsor for the weekend.

    At a stage race you wont get fed after each stage usually after the last stage at the prize giving.


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