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A Runners log : Patience and Consistency

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 477 ✭✭brutes1


    whats your best time ten k?..maybe a couple of 5ks in the meantime will really get the speed up too..!
    Am wrecked since Sunday, long day with stopping for beer and food in dublin and then again when back west, not home till midnight..and no pb:( .
    cant believe i was so far off last year it was a tough last few k, the photos they have up of me arent ones for the kids was flat out in the home straight!. back into proper training yesterday ten miles hard on grass and trails ..think its time for a marathon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    brutes1 wrote: »
    whats your best time ten k?..maybe a couple of 5ks in the meantime will really get the speed up too..!
    Am wrecked since Sunday, long day with stopping for beer and food in dublin and then again when back west, not home till midnight..and no pb:( .
    cant believe i was so far off last year it was a tough last few k, the photos they have up of me arent ones for the kids was flat out in the home straight!. back into proper training yesterday ten miles hard on grass and trails ..think its time for a marathon

    39.50 , well due an attack , no races now till mnin marathon , need some straight weeks of good solid consistent training
    that was a long day alright , great result though, sure you were hero in the camp for the day ! , everyones time s seemed to be at least a minute of last year
    forget the marathons , there trouble !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    Just spotted this on another Thread. Directed in my direction perhaps?
    Seres wrote: »
    I really dont think its a big ask to expect people to wear their club singlets on the day , like the fact of the matter is its through your club affiliation that you are allowed to take part.

    I'll never wear the poxy thing. A maverick of the running world. Just like...........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo8Qls0HnWo



    I know you'll like this though........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnfbhdELQLA


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 477 ✭✭brutes1


    Seres wrote: »
    39.50 , well due an attack , no races now till mnin marathon , need some straight weeks of good solid consistent training
    that was a long day alright , great result though, sure you were hero in the camp for the day ! , everyones time s seemed to be at least a minute of last year
    forget the marathons , there trouble !

    hero in my own head thats about it haha:), have to go out soon and bang out 5 miles quick oh no.
    good article was on boards about macmillans ten k workouts/training , worth a read , think its also on the craughwell site, might be worth doing as an indicator


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    Seres wrote: »
    You doin lissadell at easter ? tough course , some mother of a climb up to the house eh ?!

    Yep, still targetting Lissadell - you tempted yourself?

    You have me worried about the hill now. There is a video of the course on youtube and it did not look that bad. I will have to check the elevation profile on mapmyrun again too or maybe go out and drive the route to check it out. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    brutes1 wrote: »
    hero in my own head thats about it haha:), have to go out soon and bang out 5 miles quick oh no.
    good article was on boards about macmillans ten k workouts/training , worth a read , think its also on the craughwell site, might be worth doing as an indicator

    Ya saw them , they do look very interesting to try , think i will hold back for the moment , am doing a softer program so depending on how i am after the mini marathon i might up the intensity a bit more
    When you startin your marathon program ? whats the target race ? whats the aim for the 5k series ?
    dna_leri wrote: »
    Yep, still targetting Lissadell - you tempted yourself?




    You have me worried about the hill now. There is a video of the course on youtube and it did not look that bad. I will have to check the elevation profile on mapmyrun again too or maybe go out and drive the route to check it out. :(
    The hill is definitely a toughy but it is great for killing off alot of the softer runners , good confidence booster as well if your strong on the hills , if you start a bit slower you will catch loads of people on the hill , you can use it to your advantage in this respect , the gain you can make there will give you a second wind . However not a course for a pb !
    Am tempted to do it as i have a few mates takin part but will hold off for the greater good , might go down to watch though , offer a bit of support !
    Think the finish is a downhill :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    Seres wrote: »
    Ya saw them , they do look very interesting to try , think i will hold back for the moment , am doing a softer program so depending on how i am after the mini marathon i might up the intensity a bit more
    When you startin your marathon program ? whats the target race ? whats the aim for the 5k series ?


    The hill is definitely a toughy but it is great for killing off alot of the softer runners , good confidence booster as well if your strong on the hills , if you start a bit slower you will catch loads of people on the hill , you can use it to your advantage in this respect , the gain you can make there will give you a second wind . However not a course for a pb !
    Am tempted to do it as i have a few mates takin part but will hold off for the greater good , might go down to watch though , offer a bit of support !
    Think the finish is a downhill :)

    +1 on the McMillan 10K workout, when you are ready for it.

    You re right about the hill, 40m gain over less than a mile.
    I'll keep it handy till then and see how I feel on the downhill.
    Still hoping for a PB, though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 477 ✭✭brutes1


    Its great to get out in this weather .especially lunch time.. but too much heat saps the energy!

    I think i will run limerick half bank hol? as for marathon not sure yet, have mileage done but nowhere near enough intensity or long stuff for a shot at 240, might run one anyway aiming at 250 pace to see where i am at , find to hard to run the long ones solo , my head gets fried:).
    as regards 5ks , me and them dont get along, am too slow, did 2 last year, have to shoot 1630 this year in a couple ..Are you in for them??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    brutes1 wrote: »
    Its great to get out in this weather .especially lunch time.. but too much heat saps the energy!

    I think i will run limerick half bank hol? as for marathon not sure yet, have mileage done but nowhere near enough intensity or long stuff for a shot at 240, might run one anyway aiming at 250 pace to see where i am at , find to hard to run the long ones solo , my head gets fried:).
    as regards 5ks , me and them dont get along, am too slow, did 2 last year, have to shoot 1630 this year in a couple ..Are you in for them??
    Sure there is loads of marathons to train for whenever you want to give 2.40 a shot !

    No luck with the lunchtime run today , way things are goin might not get out at all today

    No not doin the 5k series , they were great the once but just to far to travel for a 5k , also dont think it would be a good idea just coming out of injury


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    Saturday

    10miles : did with a couple of mates , faster than usual , dont know finish time but clockin them out bout 7.50 pace , felt great after , never felt as good after 10miles in a while .

    Sunday

    Rest :Knew it was goin to be tricky to get out but this will be the last day the ball will drop for a while

    Monday :missed the lunchtime run but got in 40mins easy in the evening & pilates


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 477 ✭✭brutes1


    Solid enough seres...You are upping the miles by the looks of it, how many speed sessions a week you plan, - intervals and tempo is it?

    Strugglin here this week with work and lack of appetite for hard training..:(..ill have to drag my ass to the track for penance and a good beating by the fast lads later , isnt running fun :)! ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    brutes1 wrote: »
    Solid enough seres...You are upping the miles by the looks of it, how many speed sessions a week you plan, - intervals and tempo is it?

    Strugglin here this week with work and lack of appetite for hard training..:(..ill have to drag my ass to the track for penance and a good beating by the fast lads later , isnt running fun :)! ..

    ya , doin 1 tempo and 1 interval weekly and a long run , the tempos will vary between one long or a few shorter one and the intervals will be done at either 5km or 10km pace
    Im the total opposite frame of mind at the moment , loving gettin back into it , so much
    enthusiasm for the training at the moment

    Havent been gettin out much at lunch this week with work either
    change to the evening runs is nice though , bit more tricky juggling time etc ...

    A few trashing at training and youll be back fightning , hate when it get like that too !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    Tuesday

    8km with 25min tempo @ 4.24km pace : hilly loop near the house

    Wedneday

    4.7miles easy with the sister & stretching

    Thursday

    40min pilates & 4.5mil @ lunch easy , 39mins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    Have been neglecting the log recently , had to do a bit of rooting to find it

    Friday

    5.5miles :5*1km with 90sec recovery : 4.15/3.54/3.54/3.52/3.55 .
    First rep was ridiculously slow but the rest were consistent and controlled

    Sat

    Pilates & Stretching


    Sunday

    Easy Long Run : 13.15km/70min :

    Monday

    40mins : No Garmin , this was a struggle as i did it just before dark , was pretty wrecked and full of heavy weekend food ! but i did it so youll have days like that


    Tuesday
    AM Pilates & Stretching

    Tempo : 6.65km with 2*10min tempo with 3min break : 4.20km pace & 4.13km pace , my pace was all over the shop today , was suppose to do them at 4.15 pace , session wasnt hard just the pace was very inconsistent. Back feel great of late


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 477 ✭✭brutes1


    Good going, a Solid block of training in there with pretty good quality - do you run the hard sessions solo? Id usually run them with another lad it pushes you to the limit , will you up the mileage pre 10k or are you happy enough with what you are doin ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    pratically always run solo , easy/hard/long , whatever , like to keep the speed sessions controlled , save my limts for the playing field , not goin to do anything major with the mileage for a while , have just started this simple enough program and want to see if i can execute it without my injury resurfacing , the mini marathon preformance will determine my next step , you get a new lease of life for training ? last time you were lacking motivation !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 477 ✭✭brutes1


    Seres wrote: »
    pratically always run solo , easy/hard/long , whatever , like to keep the speed sessions controlled , save my limts for the playing field , not goin to do anything major with the mileage for a while , have just started this simple enough program and want to see if i can execute it without my injury resurfacing , the mini marathon preformance will determine my next step , you get a new lease of life for training ? last time you were lacking motivation !


    Thats very sound thinking, stick to the plan ! You are very disciplined thats half the battle

    Still not back in the swing of things weekdays tend to be really long work days this time of year for some reason..and end up cramming in 5 runs Friday to Sunday then small miles during the week .
    I need a target long race , am now thinking of achill half early July , ran it before , ill have to sign up to get committed !! Need to crack a few pbs this year i have been in decline for some time:D!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    brutes1 wrote: »
    Thats very sound thinking, stick to the plan ! You are very disciplined thats half the battle

    Still not back in the swing of things weekdays tend to be really long work days this time of year for some reason..and end up cramming in 5 runs Friday to Sunday then small miles during the week .
    I need a target long race , am now thinking of achill half early July , ran it before , ill have to sign up to get committed !! Need to crack a few pbs this year i have been in decline for some time:D!
    5 runs friday to sunday , thats very hectic goin ?! Is achill really expensive? heard it was more expensive than conn , know what you mean bout the pbs , havent had one since the streets last august


    Wednesday

    4.5miles/42 mins : have been told to do easy runs very slow !! anyway morro i have 10*400m so want to be as fresh in the legs as possible
    Forgot socks yesterday so have blisters today , alway forgettin somethin in the training gear :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 477 ✭✭brutes1


    Think Achill is 60 quid so a fair bit i guess but what the hell dont mind a good tough run ..plus a few of the lads are doing it or more like going on the piss after crawling around the course !

    I find myself forgetting things always and doing silly things like leaving the car key in the car door all day ...old age i guess...;)
    You should bring a stock of clothes into work by the sounds of it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    brutes1 wrote: »
    Think Achill is 60 quid so a fair bit i guess but what the hell dont mind a good tough run ..plus a few of the lads are doing it or more like going on the piss after crawling around the course !

    I find myself forgetting things always and doing silly things like leaving the car key in the car door all day ...old age i guess...;)
    You should bring a stock of clothes into work by the sounds of it!
    as long as they dont expect to to carry them home or clean up their puke it wont be too bad !
    Have bags everywhere with training gear and still manage to forget stuff , think i dont restock them enough

    Thursday

    8km with 10*400m , 75sec recovery 86/78/84/81/84/83/83/83/82/83/ :
    i knew this session was gonna be tough and it was everything i expected and worse ! . Target was 84sec so bar the crazy second one they were quite consistent . The first two i didnt really know the pace i was suppose to be doin and from rep 4 on they settle down .I was suppose to take 90sec break between each one but thought 75sec would be enough , NO !
    They was an awful lot of mental strenght cramming between reps from bout 5 on , had to really dig deep , at time like this really wish i was training with people , i actually walked between reps which i never do .
    Was in bits at the end , hardest session since last August , but all in all pretty happy with it for no other reason than my back held out
    Gonna dread this session the next time it comes around :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭cwgatling


    Well done Seres, solid pacing. Doing intervals by yourself is a nightmare. I have done it too but it is way easier with someone else.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Great splits in that session, it's always harder doing them on your own. How often are you planning on doing sessoins like that?

    Be interesting to know what difference there really is between walking or jogging your recovery's. Think I read someone on here saying jogging them is better for building your speed endurance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    Seres wrote: »
    8km with 10*400m , 75sec recovery 86/78/84/81/84/83/83/83/82/83/ :
    i knew this session was gonna be tough and it was everything i expected and worse ! . Target was 84sec so bar the crazy second one they were quite consistent . The first two i didnt really know the pace i was suppose to be doin and from rep 4 on they settle down .I was suppose to take 90sec break between each one but thought 75sec would be enough , NO !
    They was an awful lot of mental strenght cramming between reps from bout 5 on , had to really dig deep , at time like this really wish i was training with people , i actually walked between reps which i never do .
    Was in bits at the end , hardest session since last August , but all in all pretty happy with it for no other reason than my back held out
    Gonna dread this session the next time it comes around :(

    That's a good session alright, did you really keep to 75s recovery, you would have been entitled to the 90s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    cwgatling wrote: »
    Well done Seres, solid pacing. Doing intervals by yourself is a nightmare. I have done it too but it is way easier with someone else.

    Dont mind tempos and even long reps cause your still a bit below your limits and you can check your pace on the garmin regularly but i dont think its a good idea checkin your pace for 400s , def would have been easier chasing someone

    Great splits in that session, it's always harder doing them on your own. How often are you planning on doing sessoins like that?

    Be interesting to know what difference there really is between walking or jogging your recovery's. Think I read someone on here saying jogging them is better for building your speed endurance?

    I rarely wark between reps but today i was just nailed and i def dont think it help cause i felt sick at the end , i think it easier to up the pace from a jog than a walk .
    dna_leri wrote: »
    That's a good session alright, did you really keep to 75s recovery, you would have been entitled to the 90s.

    Never cheat on the sessions ! ya figured i didnt need the 90s because i only take 90s on long reps of 800m/1000m , but once i stuck 75s rest in the garmin program that was it ,how wrong was i !
    Im surprised how consistent they were though !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 477 ✭✭brutes1


    Very good session well done, bet you were buzzin afterwards..!. Sessions solo are really good for toughening you up for races, now you know you can push yerself , so much of it is mental when it comes down to it:D
    your not tempted by the castlebar minimarathon as a tune up ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    brutes1 wrote: »
    Very good session well done, bet you were buzzin afterwards..!. Sessions solo are really good for toughening you up for races, now you know you can push yerself , so much of it is mental when it comes down to it:D
    your not tempted by the castlebar minimarathon as a tune up ??

    Hope your right , although sometimes i find it hard running alongside people in races because i train on my own the whole time , other runners can really annoy me if im running with them for a couple of km
    No tune up race , just wanted to get a couple of weeks of consistent training in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    Friday

    38min easy : legs tired today , cut it a bit short as i havent taken a rest day yet this week and i need to do a long run morro morn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Perkina3


    Hey Seres,

    Where do you live?? I am going to UCD with a group off boards next tues but it's a bit off the beaten track for me like. Otherwise I run on my own....

    That's if you are close to me!

    Will be doing intervals though I reckon you could be a bit quicker than me! :P I would try stay with you for as long as possible though.

    Perkina3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    Perkina3 wrote: »
    Hey Seres,

    Where do you live?? I am going to UCD with a group off boards next tues but it's a bit off the beaten track for me like. Otherwise I run on my own....

    That's if you are close to me!

    Will be doing intervals though I reckon you could be a bit quicker than me! :P I would try stay with you for as long as possible though.

    Perkina3
    thanks Perkina3 , but my major problem is i live in county roscommon , where feck all people run ! but thanks for the offer though , enjoy the session !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    Page 7 !Jesus i dont know if i will remember all i done since the last session , the old memory is a bit sketchy at the best of times , ah sure the garmin will help

    Saturday 1st May

    10miles

    Sunday

    Rest

    Monday

    40mins easy


    Tuesday

    30min tempo @ 4.13 pace / 7.14km : was suppose to do this at 4.30 pace but felt good and wasnt under too much pressure at that pace 6.58/6.45/6.49/6.39 : alot of hills , first session where i have felt a real improvement since injury

    Wednesday

    Easy 45min

    Thursay

    easy 40min

    Friday

    5*1200 with 90sec break : planned @ 3.50-4min pace but felt good doing them at the faster pace so why not
    1. 4.26 :3.42 pace
    2. 4.20 : 3.37 pace
    3. 4.26 : 3.42 pace
    4. 4.36 : 3.50 pace
    5. 4.26 :3.42 pace
    Session was surprisingly manageable , probably could have paid more attention to pace though , one of them there is very dodgy

    Friday

    easy 40min

    Saturday

    11miles in 90min : up at the crack of dawn for this one , hate doin the long runs at any other time

    Sunday

    Rest

    Monday

    40min easy

    Today, Tuesday will be 500*10 , which im dreading so will leave till this even , really not a lunchtime session !


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