SPOILERS Series 6, Episode 1 - "The Impossible Astronaut"

MrVestek · 23-04-2011 07:52PM

Ginny wrote: »

Honestly I shouted "nnoooooo" at the TV as the credit music started! Haven't done that for a while.

We did that too! Moffat certainly loves his cliffhangers.

bigdaddyliamo · 23-04-2011 08:09PM

Well, after the traditional post show cigar......I must say, what a great episode!
Plenty of WTF moments and next week can't come quick enough.

Thought there was a bit of a nod to Watchmen when

the alien killed Joy...bit of a Doctor Manhattan splatter!!

...Nice!:D

Ginny · 23-04-2011 08:24PM

After watching the trailer for next week I was surprised

How much of the first 2 episodes were part of the series 6 trailer

I also thought

The spaceman that shot the doctor would be the doctor when they lifted their visor at the start

Jessibelle · 23-04-2011 08:31PM

Achilles wrote: »

Omg! I literally WTF'd out loud when
he was shot and started to regenerate at the start... then was shot again and killed.... also does this mean that this Doctor is the last ever regeneration?! Bah!

Nah, he said himself in the Sarah Jane Adventures he's found a way around that, so wtf is actually going on is beyond me, though I'm betting on parallel universes...

K-9 · 23-04-2011 08:42PM

That flew in. Matt superb again, River very good also. Oval Office superbly done and not a bad Nixon performance.

Some very funny lines:

Mrs. Robinson

,

That's okay Mr. President, you were my second choice too

and Rory's

there's nothing out there

line.

The pregnancy one wasn't a surprise to me either, wonder where they'll go with that?

Basq · 23-04-2011 08:45PM

K-9 wrote: »

Some very funny lines .. Rory's
there's nothing out there
line.

I laughed at this first and thought "typical Rory line.." when he's terrified!

But then realised he actually meant it as the alien wiped his mind when he turned back to River.

ebbsy · 23-04-2011 08:51PM

A good start to the season for sure.

Doctor DooM · 23-04-2011 08:56PM

For those worried about this being the last incarnation or whatever... think script writer for a second.

Moffat was very specific in pointing out that the Doctor couldn't know he was to die or it'd change the time stream. The Doctor now knows, so the time stream is going to change- and there will probably be consequences to that (they were specific in mentioning that, too).

Ginny · 23-04-2011 09:40PM

I loved

“Do not compliment the intruder!"

Cookie33 · 23-04-2011 10:59PM

Loved it!

My inital thought at the end was that

the girl in the space suit was amy's daughter.. but isn't that too obvious?

Was watching parts of Dr Who Confidential and they mentioned that they put hints throughout the episode on whats going to happen throughout the series.. maybe i should watch it again

Basq · 23-04-2011 11:35PM

Watched it again this evening.. and enjoyed it as much, if not more, the second time!

Couple of things I noticed:

a) signs of Amy's pregnancy - "put on a few pounds", the Doctor's "get back to making babies" line to Rory and Amy and her nausea in the oval office. Her sudden stomach pains at that crucial moment - was it early signs of pregnancy or something more?
b) the exchange between Amy and the alien in the bathroom - I forget the scene largely but the alien insinuated that Amy should tell the Doctor one thing (her pregnancy?) but shouldn't let the Doctor know something else - his death? Ramblings I know!
c) definite signs that Rory's jealousy of Amy and the Doctor's relationship will come to a head this season when River was talking to him while unlocking the vault. Arthur Darvill conveyed so much heartache there.

Another trailer for the next episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmsMgHod_nk

Cookie33 · 23-04-2011 11:59PM

I am very entrigued to know what the tally marks are doing on their skin (river, rory and amy)

perhaps keeping mark of where they are in terms of timeline - could it have an inception feel?

ixoy · 24-04-2011 12:07AM

Excellent episode - very dark (and scary) for a 18:00 show.

I twigged Amy's pregnancy but didn't River Song also feel nauseous? Is she pregnant too? With the Doctor's spawn?

Moffat does love messing around with the way people view monsters ("Don't blink" and now "Look behind you!"). Good make up and a neat idea.

Going on a wild guess here - the girl in the astronaut suit is River Song. It'd fit in with her talking about being young and impressionable when she meets the Doctor.

Looking forward to the next episode tomorrow!

aidan_walsh · 24-04-2011 12:08AM

I took the stomach cramps to be an effect of the memory wipe - River had them too!

aidan_walsh · 24-04-2011 12:11AM

Looking forward to the next episode tomorrow!

Saturday, I'm afraid. The back to back turned out to be a bad rumour.

Mr E · 24-04-2011 12:13AM

Can a mod please add "Spoilers" to the thread title? Its a pain in the hole reading this thread.

aidan_walsh · 24-04-2011 12:14AM

Whoops. Thought it would be taken as given after broadcast :S

Ginny · 24-04-2011 12:20AM

aidan_walsh wrote: »

I took the stomach cramps to be an effect of the memory wipe - River had them too!

As did I.

ixoy · 24-04-2011 12:56AM

aidan_walsh wrote: »

Saturday, I'm afraid. The back to back turned out to be a bad rumour.

What?!!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Your posts on this forum just depress me...

Cris Jones · 24-04-2011 01:42AM

Doctor Who is not good tv any more. Moffatt has lost the plot.

Banjo Fella · 24-04-2011 02:08AM

Marvelous beginning to the series, I loved it! I especially liked Amy and the Doctor's little scene where she solemnly sweared by fish-fingers and custard.

Lots of hilarious scenes and lines as usual, despite the dark, unsettling mood. "I'm the King of Okay! Oh, that's a rubbish title... forget that."

*speculation Stetson on!*

I also thought that the kid in the spacesuit could be Amy's daughter... but then I realised something. Er, the spacesuit is very definitely adult-sized. How could a child plod around in it so menacingly and convincingly? It must be some kind of illusion, I doubt whatever's inhabiting the suit is human.

I first picked up on Amy's pregnancy when she felt sick in the Oval Office, but I'm a little confused after watching the episode again. She felt sick immediately after seeing the Silent, just like River did after seeing a group of them later on... is it possible that the Silents can somehow impregnate people? Maybe they need humans to reproduce? They are very humanoid, and for some reason... dressed in dapper suits. Hmm, this sounds even more ridiculous than I thought it would after writing it down.

Still, they had no use for menopausal old Joy, and there's that oft-used phrase; "a pregnant silence". Could have some sort of poetic relevance! Or not. It's likely Amy's been trying to tell the Doctor about her pregnancy since the start of the Time/Space Comic Relief short.

Also remembered something during River's speech to Rory about her relationship with the Doctor. When the Doctor met her for the first time in Silence In The Library, they did some catching up and she mentioned the "crash of the Byzantium", and a "picnic at (somewhere)". We've seen the first, but was the picnic at the beginning of this episode the other one she was referring to? If so - Moffat, you clever man! That was broadcast around three years ago!

Too much rampant rambling speculation, sorry, but just one more thing! Presumably Amy will continue to try saving the Doctor's life. If she succeeds, maybe it will destroy the universe? We still don't know what caused the TARDIS to explode in the last series, and that Silent Amy met in the bathroom seemed keen on having her talk the Doctor into a paradox. It doesn't really fit together properly.

So excited about this new series! Can't wait for next Saturday.

aidan_walsh · 24-04-2011 02:09AM

Your posts on this forum just depress me...

Hopefully a picture of a cat in a stetson will be of some amends.

bren2001 · 24-04-2011 10:33AM

Cookie33 wrote: »

I am very entrigued to know what the tally marks are doing on their skin (river, rory and amy)
perhaps keeping mark of where they are in terms of timeline - could it have an inception feel?

I thought the marks were to represent how many times they see the aliens considering you forget when you stop seeing them. But when they arn't looking at the aliens how do they remember what the marks are? Seemingly another paradox.

mach1982 · 24-04-2011 10:42AM

Banjo Fella wrote: »

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*speculation Stetson on!*
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Also remembered something during River's speech to Rory about her relationship with the Doctor. When the Doctor met her for the first time in Silence In The Library, they did some catching up and she mentioned the "crash of the Byzantium", and a "picnic at (somewhere)". We've seen the first, but was the picnic at the beginning of this episode the other one she was referring to? If so - Moffat, you clever man! That was broadcast around three years ago!

.

ivers says
Could be as River says their paths are going in opposite ways , could the next meeting she has with the Doctor be her last or his first.

jasonb · 24-04-2011 11:24AM

Definitely don't think the sickness is to do with Amy's pregnancy, as River left it too. It must be something to do with seeing and then forgetting the Aliens. That said, Rory didn't feel sick!

I'm pretty certain the line 'You were my second choice for President' was used in The West Wing too.

Haven't we already seen the first time the Doctor met River ( in the Library ), as he didn't know her at all then. And as River said, it did kill her, as she died in that, right? So it's the writers bringing it all together really. If they show us the picnic, we'll know 'cos he'll give her his Sonic Screwdriver ( oo-er! ).

I thought it was a very good episode, quite dark which is good. Not sure how they'll get around him 'properly' dying when he's 1100, or even that he's meant to die as Matt Smith, not some other actor, but sure it's Dr. Who, they'll always figure out a way...

Loved that time has gone from wibbly wobbly to lumpy bumpy!

J.

The Sparrow · 24-04-2011 11:49AM

I'm clearly in the minority but I'm just not a fan of Moffat's Dr. Who. I loved the episodes he wrote before becoming head writer but I'm just not warming to his head writer stuff. It is far too geeky and self aware for my taste.

This episode was good but lot's of it annoyed me such as the spoiler jokes. I mean, one is bad enough but two is just ridiculous. Everything seems to be written in an attempt to get a wry chuckle out of internet geeks (such as me, I suppose). Like time now being lumpy wumpy instead of wibbly wompy. And that just gets tiresome.

And why do they always have to do these contrived stories that start at the end and work back to the beginning? And lot's of it was contrived. For instance,

forgetting the aliens when you turn around... well actually it wasn't that they forgot them, it is that they saw the opposite of what was there. If you just forgot them, you would look back as you wouldn't be able to remember what was there.

And the pregnancy thing was completely telegraphed.

Killer_banana · 24-04-2011 12:57PM

Absolutely brilliant. Had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I don't know how I'll wait a week for the next part though.

When Amy felt nauseous my first thought was pregnancy but then I thought I was being stupid. :P

Not sure who the child could be. The theories that it's either

Amy's child or River both seems plausible but they're also quite obvious which makes me think they're not right. Of course if River is Amy's daughter like some people think both theories could be right which would be a little less obvious. =P

The aliens look like a creepier version of The Gentlemen from Buffy. The Gentlemen gave me nightmares as a kid and still kind of scare me so plenty nightmare fuel from these guys.

Also, I love that the Doctor calls Rory and Amy 'The Ponds' rather than...wait do we know Rory's last name?

aidan_walsh · 24-04-2011 01:01PM

Williams, isn't it?

Killer_banana · 24-04-2011 01:05PM

aidan_walsh wrote: »

Williams, isn't it?

I think you're right. Thanks for that.

Bajingo · 24-04-2011 03:32PM

The control room Rory and River enter in this episode looks a lot like the control room from 'The Lodger' season 5..is this budget constraints or a connection between the aliens of that episode possibly being 'The Silence'?

**SPOILERS** Series 6, Episode 1 - "The Impossible Astronaut"

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SPOILERS Series 6, Episode 1 - "The Impossible Astronaut"