RTE not showing Easter Rising ceremony??

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 24-04-2011 12:29PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Believe me - When Palestine is internationally recognised as a state, they will celebrate that moment with the dignity and respect it deserves.

Ever hear of the 4th of July? No, those Americans don't celebrate their independence at all. We mark the Easter Rising as the pivotal moment in Irish history which lead to our independence.

if irish independence was the primary motivator there would be marches and broohahahs on the day the republic actually came about, not the day a group of fanatical murderers took it upon themselves to launch a suicide attack on the british establishment and murder as many people as they could in the process.

Oh bollocks off - It has nothing to do with flag-waving. It's to do with celebrating sacrifice that people gave to pursue our freedom. They gave their lives.. Yes, their lives. And all you can do is scorn and thanks-whore on boards for it.

I think you'll find quite a few hamas and other nutter islamic group members gave their lives.. Yes, their lives in the pursuit of palestinian "freedom".
The men of the easter rising were either fanatical or easily duped into losing their lives, but they were certainly not heroes.

Our man in Havana · 24-04-2011 12:31PM

Honestly who cares?

dlofnep · 24-04-2011 12:31PM

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

if irish independence was the primary motivator there would be marches and broohahahs on the day the republic actually came about, not the day a group of fanatical murderers took it upon themselves to launch a suicide attack on the british establishment and murder as many people as they could in the process.

The Black & Tans launched an attack against the British Establishment? Not sure what history books you're reading.

Our man in Havana · 24-04-2011 12:32PM

dlofnep wrote: »

The Black & Tans launched an attack against the British Establishment? Not sure what history books you're reading.

No one mentioned the B&Ts.

dlofnep · 24-04-2011 12:33PM

Our man in Havana wrote: »

No one mentioned the B&Ts.

"A group of fanatical murderers" Fits their M.O just perfectly.

Sunnyisland · 24-04-2011 12:33PM

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

if irish independence was the primary motivator there would be marches and brouhahas on the day the republic actually came about,

There are many many marches and what ever that word is going on throughout the Island of Ireland including the Government & president presiding over the one in Dublin,This is about our national broadcaster not showing it.

Collie D · 24-04-2011 12:33PM

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

if irish independence was the primary motivator there would be marches and broohahahs on the day the republic actually came about, not the day a group of fanatical murderers took it upon themselves to launch a suicide attack on the british establishment and murder as many people as they could in the process.

I'm lost for words at this.

dlofnep · 24-04-2011 12:34PM

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Honestly who cares?

Quite alot of people it would seem.

Sunnyisland · 24-04-2011 12:35PM

Our man in Havana wrote: »

No one mentioned the B&Ts.

I take it he/she was being sarcastic

Mark200 · 24-04-2011 12:35PM

Collie D wrote: »

It's par for the course. Show any kind of interest in your country, be it history, language or sport and you're instantly dismissed as a rabid Republican who wants to blow up the Brits.

Interest is fine.

Forcing it on others is not.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 24-04-2011 12:37PM

dlofnep wrote: »

The Black & Tans launched an attack against the British Establishment? Not sure what history books you're reading.

*slow clap*

OutlawPete · 24-04-2011 12:37PM

Collie D wrote: »

I'm lost for words at this.

Wish I was.

Won't post 'em though as ban on Easter Sunday would spoil my enjoyment of the after dinner chocolate feast.

P_1 · 24-04-2011 12:37PM

Always found it a bit bizarre that it's the Easter Rising rather than our actually achieving independence that is commemorated each year. Afterall the Easter Rising was just a failure of a military operation that was not supported by the majority of the population of the time and basically destroyed this city.

Anyway I digress, if I had my way we'd commemorate our achieving independence rather than the Easter Rising each year.

Biggins · 24-04-2011 12:38PM

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

if irish independence was the primary motivator there would be marches and broohahahs on the day the republic actually came about, not the day a group of fanatical murderers took it upon themselves to launch a suicide attack on the british establishment and murder as many people as they could in the process.

:pac:

I don't know where to start! :pac:

Collie D · 24-04-2011 12:38PM

Mark200 wrote: »

Interest is fine.

Forcing it on others is not.

Nobody is forcing it on anybody to be fair.

dlofnep · 24-04-2011 12:38PM

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

*slow clap*

Save your hand stamina. I'm sure you'll need it for some trolling and thanks-whoring in some other thread.

Dozen Wicked Words · 24-04-2011 12:39PM

What does the ceremony entail, does the President etc turn up? Seems strange, if its an official event the national broadcaster doesn't cover it, you would have thought they would pay lip service to it at least and stick on a highlights programme late or whatever. Not irish so no idea whats in the ceremony.

Slightly off topic, but are RTE really showing the fecking wedding of the inbreds? Telly will be off all day then.

hatz7 · 24-04-2011 12:42PM

I wouldn't be appropriate to show the event.

What's the point in hailing what they did for independence in 1916 when we haven't got our independence in 2011?

Chips Lovell · 24-04-2011 12:43PM

Relax everyone. They'll probably show it on the news.

Biggins · 24-04-2011 12:43PM

dooferoaks wrote: »

...are RTE really showing the fecking wedding of the inbreds? Telly will be off all day then.

Apparently so they are showing a foreign Royal wedding. Fair enough but to neglect something of our own, of such historical importance (and if those don't get the importance, they are uneducated idiots!), RTE top heads should all be sacked from their positions!

Collie D · 24-04-2011 12:43PM

pithater1 wrote: »

Always found it a bit bizarre that it's the Easter Rising rather than our actually achieving independence that is commemorated each year. Afterall the Easter Rising was just a failure of a military operation that was not supported by the majority of the population of the time and basically destroyed this city.

Anyway I digress, if I had my way we'd commemorate our achieving independence rather than the Easter Rising each year.

It's seen as a turning point in the road to independence, much the same way as the Boston Tea Party was in the US War of Independence. I do see your point though.

dooferoaks wrote: »

What does the ceremony entail, does the President etc turn up?

Various Cabinet members including Taoiseach and President and members of the armed forces. A naval commander is re-enacting the reading of the Proclamation followed by a fly-over by the Air Corps.

My name is URL · 24-04-2011 12:45PM

Mark200 wrote: »

Interest is fine.

Forcing it on others is not.

Would the fact that RTE show the ceremony mean that they are 'forcing' people to watch it? I take it you view the showing of the royal wedding in the same light?

The ignorance in this thread is astounding but completely unsurprising.

Our man in Havana · 24-04-2011 12:45PM

Collie D wrote: »

It's seen as a turning point in the road to independence, much the same way as the Boston Tea Party was in the US War of Independence. I do see your point though.

Various Cabinet members including Taoiseach and President and members of the armed forces. A naval commander is re-enacting the reading of the Proclamation followed by a fly-over by the Air Corps.

A waste of public money tbh.

dlofnep · 24-04-2011 12:46PM

The re-enactment ÓSF did in Tyrone was brilliant.

Part 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzOEDTdNK3Y

Part 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGG-q64XMxw

Part 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9n1XzQvUMM

petroltimer · 24-04-2011 12:46PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Quite alot of people it would seem.

not me, don't waste licence fee by covering a commemoration for a bunch of terrorists. Where will it end, they caused the destruction of Dublin city and caused the deaths of hundreds of people, all the while real Irish men where fighting in the trenches.

omg a kitty · 24-04-2011 12:48PM

dooferoaks wrote: »

What does the ceremony entail, does the President etc turn up? Seems strange, if its an official event the national broadcaster doesn't cover it, you would have thought they would pay lip service to it at least and stick on a highlights programme late or whatever. Not irish so no idea whats in the ceremony.

Slightly off topic, but are RTE really showing the fecking wedding of the inbreds? Telly will be off all day then.

Its a commemoration of the 1916 Rising, The President, The Taoiseach and The Minister of Defence, Justice and Equality attends it along with 300 members of the Defence Forces, relatives of people who fought (and died) in the Rising. I think it also features a fly by by the Air Corps PC-9s?

Collie D · 24-04-2011 12:49PM

Our man in Havana wrote: »

A waste of public money tbh.

Much bigger squandering of public money around but I won't wander off topic. I really don't see the problem with a remembrance ceremony for one of the most important occasions in our history.

Biggins · 24-04-2011 12:49PM

Our man in Havana wrote: »

A waste of public money tbh.

Sometimes its not about money, its about pride, honour and respecting those that paid an ultimate sacrifice so that you can god-damn have an Irish nation and the idea that one could be created by those that gave an ultimate sacrifice!

We waste a hell of a lot more money for less deserved occasions and reasons!
Sometimes the right occasion does actually justify the money!

Have we become such an ungrateful fcukin nation and a shower of **** that we can't pay homage to those that took great steps to see we are free from foreign rule?
If so, I am ashamed to be on the same island with such people!

dlofnep · 24-04-2011 12:50PM

petroltimer wrote: »

not me, don't waste licence fee by covering a commemoration for a bunch of terrorists. Where will it end, they caused the destruction of Dublin city and caused the deaths of hundreds of people, all the while real Irish men where fighting in the trenches.

It lead to our independence. I suppose no damage was done during the American revolution, or the French revolution? Terrorists my hole. Patriots of Ireland they were, and no less.

Dozen Wicked Words · 24-04-2011 12:50PM

Collie D wrote: »

It's seen as a turning point in the road to independence, much the same way as the Boston Tea Party was in the US War of Independence. I do see your point though.

Various Cabinet members including Taoiseach and President and members of the armed forces. A naval commander is re-enacting the reading of the Proclamation followed by a fly-over by the Air Corps.

Very odd decision then, couldn't imagine the BBC not showing Rememberance Day without the Daily Mail/Daily Express etc kicking up a right stink.

RTE not showing Easter Rising ceremony??

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