Science TR071

celtic723 · 21-04-2011 03:37PM

For Vertebrate Form & Function i see there's notes for Kumlesh Dev.

I know you're not supposed to cite lecturers but i'm just wondering if we actually had him for lectures?

I remember him for a certain lab but not for lectures.

Anyone able to clarify?

banjopaul · 21-04-2011 03:54PM

If I remember correctly, we had one lecture with him, and were essentially told to learn the stuff in the second lecture ourselves. Might have been missed due to the snow..

23-04-2011 09:26PM

Hah! I still hadn't managed to do any study, thought my first exam (BY2201) was on Tuesday, and then realised that it's not actually till the 3rd! I have a second chance to redeem myself

amacachi · 24-04-2011 12:00AM

true-or-false wrote: »

Hah! I still hadn't managed to do any study, thought my first exam (BY2201) was on Tuesday, and then realised that it's not actually till the 3rd! I have a second chance to redeem myself

Fcukin timetable that's up is organised by day instead of date, have to get onto the reps about it.

Also I can beat you, still haven't been in the library yet. :P 1 and 3 in Biology are gonna screw me.

24-04-2011 11:40AM

Just looked. That's so incredibly weird, it wasn't always like that was it?

Aoiferz · 24-04-2011 01:03PM

No, only in the last few days when they posted the timetable again after all the changes.

Charlie Sheen · 24-04-2011 04:51PM

What happens if you're completely unprepared for an exam and fail it miserably? Will they still let you do a supplement if you couldn't write anything? Just haven't got a clue for it.

amacachi · 24-04-2011 04:56PM

Charlie Sheen wrote: »

What happens if you're completely unprepared for an exam and fail it miserably? Will they still let you do a supplement if you couldn't write anything? Just haven't got a clue for it.

They did for me last year when I wrote next to nothing but I'd done well enough in the labs and that. They're under no obligation to let you repeat.

What year are you in?

Charlie Sheen · 24-04-2011 05:00PM

amacachi wrote: »

They did for me last year when I wrote next to nothing but I'd done well enough in the labs and that. They're under no obligation to let you repeat.

What year are you in?

JF. I've done all the coursework bar the seminars. Hopefully I'll be able to cram a bit in the day off I have and get enough to write an answer or two.

amacachi · 24-04-2011 05:12PM

Any effort between now and the exam would get you through Biology anyway.

Charlie Sheen · 24-04-2011 05:18PM

amacachi wrote: »

Any effort between now and the exam would get you through Biology anyway.

You've given me hope. It's mainly Geography that I have literally no idea about anyway. (ridiculous, I know!)

amacachi · 24-04-2011 05:20PM

Charlie Sheen wrote: »

You've given me hope. It's mainly Geography that I have literally no idea about anyway. (ridiculous, I know!)

Which one? Again they're easy to pass IMO, look at the past papers for ideas of what could come up again. The more general titles are the best to look at.

DancingQueen:) · 24-04-2011 05:30PM

Charlie Sheen wrote: »

You've given me hope. It's mainly Geography that I have literally no idea about anyway. (ridiculous, I know!)

I know what you mean, I can hardly understand the notes i've taken for one of the lecturers because I was writing so fast! Missing a few of the nine o'clock starts doesn't help me either = /

Charlie Sheen · 24-04-2011 05:57PM

amacachi wrote: »

Which one? Again they're easy to pass IMO, look at the past papers for ideas of what could come up again. The more general titles are the best to look at.

Semester 2. I plan on doing it soon - just have so much to cover in everything else.

DancingQueen:) wrote: »

I know what you mean, I can hardly understand the notes i've taken for one of the lecturers because I was writing so fast! Missing a few of the nine o'clock starts doesn't help me either = /

I pretty much didn't bother after a while and just wrote down a few key words which are all over the place now. Hopefully I'll be able to write enough to get a shot at a repeat exam.

DancingQueen:) · 25-04-2011 12:59PM

Charlie Sheen wrote: »

I pretty much didn't bother after a while and just wrote down a few key words which are all over the place now. Hopefully I'll be able to write enough to get a shot at a repeat exam.

With the journal, essay and group work we should have a good amount of marks already, the exam's only worth 40% luckily so, if we're lucky, repeats might not even be an option

Dubs · 25-04-2011 06:09PM

Were last years first years told what percentages they were taking into the end of year exam, for any modules?

amacachi · 25-04-2011 06:18PM

I did Biology, Maths and Geography and I don't remember being given our CA marks before the exams, just some bits and pieces individually.

Jammyc · 25-04-2011 06:24PM

For Chemistry, yes. Maths Methods, yes. Foundation Physics, yes but you'll probably have to email your project supervisor to ask for your mark there. Biology, I do remember getting some marks back, can't remember what though.

Jammyc · 26-04-2011 02:01PM

What are people using to study for Infection and Immunity? I'm finding it hard to get a structure on things.

Any good sources for the biochemistry/signaling side of things?

Scoobydooo · 26-04-2011 08:53PM

What essay titles are people looking at for Bio101, any hints?

Craguls · 26-04-2011 09:30PM

Jammyc wrote: »

What are people using to study for Infection and Immunity? I'm finding it hard to get a structure on things.

Any good sources for the biochemistry/signaling side of things?

You'll find it hard to come by but Janeway's Immunobiology has your back for O Farrelly and Mills. Hinton (<3) gave out a few review's from Nature; microbiology that'll make your life easier for Samonella but I think what they're going for is integration of the whole course more so than anything else. Think Bradley's Tb lectures and the latency and disease that comes where BCG is used for example and why.

In other news, finished my vertebrate form and function notes today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YCN-a0NsNk

Dingle Ranger · 27-04-2011 01:08PM

It's actually ridiculous how little structure the lecture notes have looking back on them.

She's (O' Farrelly) just jumping from random parts of immunology.

Then for some of the other lectures, it's hard to to imagine what the question could be when all you have to graphs of infection incidence.

celtic723 · 27-04-2011 01:48PM

Alright guys probably a stupid question but is that the priority for this molecule?

I'm wondering if the longer carbon chain gets priority over the CH3 or does the CH3 take priority over the long carbon chain.

In the notes it says the atoms directly attached to the stereocentre.

In that case the CH3 should take priority because the other side only has a CH2 attached in the first instance.

Jammyc · 27-04-2011 03:15PM

celtic723 wrote: »

Alright guys probably a stupid question but is that the priority for this molecule?

I'm wondering if the longer carbon chain gets priority over the CH3 or does the CH3 take priority over the long carbon chain.

In the notes it says the atoms directly attached to the stereocentre.

In that case the CH3 should take priority because the other side only has a CH2 attached in the first instance.

Carbon is higher molecular weight than Hydrogen, so the longer hydrocarbon chain will have higher priority.

Craguls wrote: »

You'll find it hard to come by but Janeway's Immunobiology has your back for O Farrelly and Mills. Hinton (<3) gave out a few review's from Nature; microbiology that'll make your life easier for Samonella but I think what they're going for is integration of the whole course more so than anything else. Think Bradley's Tb lectures and the latency and disease that comes where BCG is used for example and why.

In other news, finished my vertebrate form and function notes today

Aye, I actually have a pdf of the 6th ed, but its verry long. I've kind of taken a strategy of covering malaria and tb but looking at the whole course when studying them, that way it kind of forces me to learn everything but its all relevant and integrated.

CH3 < CH2-CH3

27-04-2011 04:14PM

celtic723 wrote: »

In the notes it says the atoms directly attached to the stereocentre.

In that case the CH3 should take priority because the other side only has a CH2 attached in the first instance.

Yeah the long carbon chain should take priority over the CH3 group.
Just to add to Jammyc's reply, you're seeing it as CH3 vs. CH2, but it's not. Once you see that the first atom attached in both instances is carbon you move to the atoms attached to it, which isn't H3 and H2, it's H3 and CH2, as the second carbon in the carbon chain is just as closely attached to the first carbon as the H atoms are.

celtic723 · 27-04-2011 07:50PM

Thanks!

Does anyone have a list of the lecturers we had for Vertebrate Form & Function. On the physiology website it has them listed but i'm sure Mike Wride's stuff should be there no?

Scrappychimow · 28-04-2011 02:12PM

Are we given periodic tables for the chemistry exams?

28-04-2011 02:32PM

Yes, and a list of constants like in the back of the chem lab book. And log tables are supplied if you ask.

banjopaul · 28-04-2011 02:48PM

celtic723 wrote: »

Thanks!

Does anyone have a list of the lecturers we had for Vertebrate Form & Function. On the physiology website it has them listed but i'm sure Mike Wride's stuff should be there no?

Wride's lecture for VF&F are up on the teaching centre.
http://www.tcd.ie/Biology_Teaching_Centre/local/senior-freshman/#by2202local

dazmetron · 28-04-2011 04:46PM

true-or-false wrote: »

Yes, and a list of constants like in the back of the chem lab book. And log tables are supplied if you ask.

Log tables should only be supplied if it says so on the front page of the exam paper in the permitted materials section. It differs between the different chemistry exams whether you are allowed them or not. If you check the previous exam papers it should give you an idea.

I know this year, both log tables and the new formulae and tables books will be available; which you will be allowed in any exam depends strictly on what it says on the front of the exam papers. This should also be given in the Rubric of the paper which should already have been shown to you (maybe check your course noticeboard).

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