Civillians in Syria being openned fire on (warning: graphic video)

MrPain · 23-04-2011 09:31PM #1

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People need to see this and be aware of what these people are going through. really make you grateful to live in a 1st world country.

cliffs on vid:

- Unarmed civilians protesting against the government in the city of Izraa being fired at by government troops with sniper rifles, ak47s, etc..

if video is innaprropriate mod please delete

sdanseo · 23-04-2011 09:36PM

That's absolutely horiffic, please delete.

WARNING: Half a man's face is shot off in the above video.

Kivaro · 23-04-2011 09:46PM

Best thing to do is to report it as I did, not because of the theme of the post but because of the extremely disturbing clip, which shows the execution of innocent civilians. It is not suitable in this forum because kids may see it.

papermaker · 23-04-2011 09:46PM

never seen anything like it in my life...I feel physically sick

ct89 · 23-04-2011 09:48PM

BANG BANG!! CLASS!

cruiser178 · 23-04-2011 09:49PM

its not often im at a loss for words.....

Shield · 23-04-2011 10:03PM

IMHO this is very inappropriate. If you delete your post, you'll delete the thread, which I think would be the morally correct thing to do. This isn't rotten.com

KINGVictor · 23-04-2011 10:03PM

It is really horrible to watch scenes like that ,especially with kids been caught up in the fracas.

I really hope the Syrian government exercises restraint and let their citizens express their democratic right to protest and voice their opinion.

David086 · 23-04-2011 10:06PM

Ugh.......................

Chuck Stone · 23-04-2011 10:09PM

It's pretty shocking but I don't think taking it down serves any purpose other than to diminish the reality of oppression.

We're way too removed from this stuff by our media.

Hank Scorpio · 23-04-2011 10:09PM

Disturbing

KINGVictor · 23-04-2011 10:10PM

psni wrote: »

IMHO this is very inappropriate. If you delete your post, you'll delete the thread, which I think would be the morally correct thing to do. This isn't rotten.com

I am sorry but I don't share your opinion, it is videos like this that keep the revolution in the Arab states going, putting into consideration that there is severe state press censorship in regards to the actual state of affairs in these countries.

Without a doubt, these sort of videos are repulsive but it is reality and if it would help in galvanising support for the people's aspiration for change then unfortunately it has be done. As we can see, YouTube are not deleting these videos because they understand the impact it is having.

MrPain · 23-04-2011 10:10PM

psni wrote: »

IMHO this is very inappropriate. If you delete your post, you'll delete the thread, which I think would be the morally correct thing to do. This isn't rotten.com

I removed the video, but I still think people should really think about these events. When you hear about them on the news you rarely think twice about it but when you see the individual suffering these people are enduring it really amkes you grateful for the life you have.

Sorry for any offence caused

edit: now I see people want it up, I let a mod decide

FrostyJack · 23-04-2011 10:17PM

If youtube aren't taking it down, I don't think you should.

It is not suitable in this forum because kids may see it.

As apposed to the numerous threads about rape, incest and murder on here :rolleyes:

partyatmygaff · 23-04-2011 10:24PM

The solution to people being killed by their oppressive government is to dehumanise it. Turn the sufferings of people being killed for daring to challenge oppression in to words that mean nothing... :rolleyes:

Youtube haven't removed the video. The people who recorded this video recorded it so that the people of the world would know of their plight. They want people to see what they're going through because they need people to support them. I'm not saying that embedding the video in the OP is a good idea but at the very least the link should be kept. It's not nice to watch but being killed for daring to protest isn't very nice either.

MrPain · 23-04-2011 10:29PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

The solution to people being killed by their oppressive government is to dehumanise it. Turn the sufferings of people being killed for daring to challenge oppression in to words that mean nothing... :rolleyes:

Youtube haven't removed the video. The people who recorded this video recorded it so that the people of the world would know of their plight. They want people to see what they're going through because they need people to support them. I'm not saying that embedding the video in the OP is a good idea but at the very least the link should be kept. It's not nice to watch but being killed for daring to protest isn't very nice either.

Ok I went with this not embeded, but link is still there.

Kivaro · 23-04-2011 10:29PM

FrostyJack wrote: »

As apposed to the numerous threads about rape, incest and murder on here :rolleyes:

Yes, but these threads do not have an accompanying video.

Believe you me, I am the last person on the planet to stifle free speech, but in this instance there is the risk of too many vulnerable people (kids) stumbling onto this thread.

The events in Syria is an abomination and is another example of a powerless UN. The video should be available for all to see in the correct forum.

FrostyJack · 23-04-2011 10:32PM

Kivaro wrote: »

The video should be available for all to see in the correct forum.

Which is?

Shield · 23-04-2011 10:34PM

Guys IMO this breaches Part 4 of the site's Terms of Use:

"You agree NOT to use Boards.ie to:

post Material that contains violence, or offensive subject matter"

If this doesn't fall under the above heading, I don't know what does.

tweedledee · 23-04-2011 10:38PM

Who gives a ****e about Syria,Palestine ,Libya etc,????The people of Ireland need more attention.
God it irritates me when some PC idiots complain about Arab dictators,the Irish public need more tlc.

DarkJager · 23-04-2011 10:39PM

Yeah I have to agree with the other guys. The video is absolutely horrific and shouldn't be posted here.

tweedledee]Who gives a ****e about Syria,Palestine ,Libya etc,????The people of Ireland need more attention.
God it irritates me when some PC idiots complain about Arab dictators,the Irish public need more tlc.

Thats what this thread is about, so if you'd rather whinge about Ireland, there are plenty of other threads to do it in.

Dwellingdweller · 23-04-2011 10:39PM

FrostyJack wrote: »

Which is?

Disturbing videos/images?

On topic-didnt watch the vid (on my phone) but it is important, no matter how gruesome the content, that people know what is happenin in today's world. It shouldn't be watered down.

DarkJager · 23-04-2011 10:42PM

Dwellingdweller wrote: »

Disturbing videos/images?

On topic-didnt watch the vid (on my phone) but it is important, no matter how gruesome the content, that people know what is happenin in today's world. It shouldn't be watered down.

Watch the video before you say that. A guy with blood flooding out of a wound in his throat, another guy with his head split in half from sniper fire - there is nothing in that video of journalist merit as its quite simply brutal.

EDIT: I've just finished watching the whole thing and it definitely is not suitable for here. Children with their brains hanging out, a guy dying with his mouth exploded by a bullet. I'm not a softy by any stretch for "gore" videos, but this is real suffering and really should not be linked on this site.

FrostyJack · 23-04-2011 10:48PM

Dwellingdweller wrote: »

Disturbing videos/images?

There is one of them on Boards?

Having watched the video, I can say it isn't pleasant viewing, maybe a good compromise would be to describe the details of the video (I know this waters it down). If people really want to see it, I'm sure a quick search on youtube will find it.

"You agree NOT to use Boards.ie to:
post Material that contains violence, or offensive subject matter"

If this doesn't fall under the above heading, I don't know what does.

Well it could be argued you do not see any violence in the video only the aftermath. As for the offensive subject matter, see my previous post.

DarkJager · 23-04-2011 10:52PM

FrostyJack wrote: »

There is one of them on Boards?

Having watched the video, I can say it isn't pleasant viewing, maybe a good compromise would be to describe the details of the video (I know this waters it down). If people really want to see it, I'm sure a quick search on youtube will find it.

Well it could be argued you do not see any violence in the video only the aftermath. As for the offensive subject matter, see my previous post.

Ok, let me list it from what I see:

1) Numerous images of badly wounded people being dragged to safety.
2) Blood pouring out a throat wound on a dying man
3) Image of a person with their skull split in half from a sniper round.
4) Images of dead children with their brains hanging out a gaping wound in their skull.
5) More numerous images of badly wounded/dying people.
6) Credits

However crazy and distasteful AH gets at times, this video has no place in here and is more suited to rotten.com. I understand the message of the video, but for a general forum which doesn't restrict by age this really is not appropriate.

partyatmygaff · 23-04-2011 10:55PM

DarkJager wrote: »

EDIT: I've just finished watching the whole thing and it definitely is not suitable for here.

Where should it be moved to then?

Nein 11? This isn't gore for gore's sake. These people are being killed and they want people to know their suffering so that others will see their plight. If we censor videos for fear of "offending" or "disturbing" someone then we are playing right in to the hands of the oppressive governments that these people want to remove.

300 dead means nothing to anyone. People will say "Ah, isn't that terrible?" and then move on. Some might even make a few "OH the humanity" style posts with a few

and perhaps a few :mad: and they will feel nothing. It's just a few faceless dead adding to a death tally in a far away country.

sdanseo · 23-04-2011 10:56PM

This simply isn't suitable for AH, I'm afraid.

Dwellingdweller · 23-04-2011 10:56PM

DarkJager wrote: »

Watch the video before you say that. A guy with blood flooding out of a wound in his throat, another guy with his head split in half from sniper fire - there is nothing in that video of journalist merit as its quite simply brutal.

EDIT: I've just finished watching the whole thing and it definitely is not suitable for here. Children with their brains hanging out, a guy dying with his mouth exploded by a bullet. I'm not a softy by any stretch for "gore" videos, but this is real suffering and really should not be linked on this site.

****. Yeah FrostyJack, theres a thread in the cool pics/vids ( though the vid is a far cry from "cool" :roll: ) forum along the lines of 'most moving/shocking pics&vids you've ever seen'. Still: wow.

DarkJager · 23-04-2011 11:00PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Where should it be moved to then?

Nein 11? This isn't gore for gore's sake. These people are being killed and they want people to know their suffering so that others will see their plight. If we censor videos for fear of "offending" or "disturbing" someone then we are playing right in to the hands of the oppressive governments that these people want to remove.

300 dead means nothing to anyone. People will say "Ah, isn't that terrible?" and then move on. Some might even make a few "OH the humanity" style posts with a few and perhaps a few :mad: and they will feel nothing. It's just a few faceless dead adding to a death tally in a far away country.

No I don't agree, this video simply is not suitable for any forum on this site. Even the most hardcore news stations in the western world would not show this, however much they wanted to highlight what is going on over there. I'm truly shocked personally, so the video has delivered the intended message to me.

However, I remember my first time watching a beheading video back in 2005 and how it stayed with me for days after. I really have to say, this video isn't much different, and besides its intended political and humanitarian message, I really don't wish for anyone unprepared to see things like this to stumble across it just because the link is here. This is an Irish discussion forum, not /b/ or some gore site.

Nodin · 23-04-2011 11:03PM

DarkJager wrote: »

No I don't agree, this video simply is not suitable for any forum on this site. Even the most hardcore news stations in the western world would not show this, however much they wanted to highlight what is going on over there. I'm truly shocked personally, so the video has delivered the intended message to me.

However, I remember my first time watching a beheading video back in 2005 and how it stayed with me for days after. I really have to say, this video isn't much different, and besides its intended political and humanitarian message, I really don't wish for anyone unprepared to see things like this to stumble across it just because the link is here. This is an Irish discussion forum, not /b/ or some gore site.

Theres a fucking warning in the thread title, and a warning in the post. Theres no images, only a link.

DarkJager · 23-04-2011 11:06PM

Nodin wrote: »

Theres a fucking warning in the thread title, and a warning in the post. Theres no images, only a link.

There is still a link. And "graphic video" doesn't half ****ing describe whats actually in it.

Civillians in Syria being openned fire on (warning: graphic video)

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