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Did you grow up with a nanny/governess/maid/servants etc?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,367 ✭✭✭✭watna


    A friend of mine once rented a room in a share house in London. One of the guys was South African and had grown up with maids and a nanny etc.

    He had no idea how to use basic appliances like a washing machine or dishwasher. He was also really untidy. He'd just leave stuff everywhere as I suppose he was used to someone picking up after him. He was late 20s....

    My Oh's cousin wants to move from South Africa to New Zealand, she was asking us loads of questions about living here and then asked if we had a maid :eek: I laughed, long and hard and told her I was the maid. I said she might get a cleaning lady for a few hours a week but even that was unusual.

    Then I went to SA and it's like a different world. You go to restaurants and there's 10 people waiting on you. My OH's granny has a garden that is far too big for her to look after. My OH and his father wanted to do it for her while we were there but she had to point out to us that there were so many people needing work that if we did the work for them we would be stopping them from eating that day. We had to sit in the sun and read the paper while this 80 year old man did her garden. It was the weirdest thing but she has a point. We had money and he had none, he didn't want charity as he had some dignity he wanted to work for it. Really was an eye opener for me though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,288 ✭✭✭pow wow


    Our childminder had a telly that had a meter you had to throw 50p pieces into. It was an education!

    When I went away to school in England some of my classmates were filthy, and I mean filthy rich - country estates, shooting on weekends, the whole nine yards. One girl in particular had me over to stay for a few days and her 'driver' came to pick me up. Once there the cook made dinner and the general dogsbody guy just shuffled about the house doing stuff. She started going out with a trainee electrician as part of her rebellion and the 'rents cut her off ;) So fickle these rich folks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    These days, We've fallen on hard times however.

    Mrs Class, sometimes asks me 'What did your last slave die of?'

    I say 'I shot him for insubordination'.

    Weirdly, she doesn't get it...:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Yeah, when I was younger, we had a nanny for a while. Pretty unusual set up I suppose (dad wasn't too rich, he worked in a bank). Anyway, some fond memories of those times. She was a lovely lady, very creative and imaginative with us kids, almost like a tutor in some ways but she was kinda unconventional too and got her marching orders after having us participate in a song and dance routine with some cartoon penguins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    lol as if anybody that rich would post here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭thunderthing


    The odd time when my mam was lazy she'd get in a cleaner once a week, but they never lasted long cause she always seemed to catch them stealing stuff. That's as close as I think most Irish people get to maids..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,490 ✭✭✭Fluorescence


    The odd time when my mam was lazy she'd get in a cleaner once a week, but they never lasted long cause she always seemed to catch them stealing stuff. That's as close as I think most Irish people get to maids..

    What a username :pac:. Off topic I know, but that's just amazing....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    The odd time when my mam was lazy she'd get in a cleaner once a week, but they never lasted long cause she always seemed to catch them stealing stuff. That's as close as I think most Irish people get to maids..

    When my grandmother was sick with chemotherapy the hospice used to send around someone to provide home help a couple of days a week and she'd get up early those days to have the house decent for her before she arrived.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭Johnny Favourite


    Yes I grew up with one of all the above. She carried out all the domestic tasks while my parents worked.

    Her name was Anne, never called Nanny and certainly never called Maid. Lovely woman, really lovely lady. Brought me up from the age of 2 to 14. I loved her dearly.

    She died when I was 18 and we were her only family really. she had brought us all up. All four children.

    My parents treated her very well and she enjoyed working for them.

    Silver spoon?? Whatever... It was just my childhood and I don't think my parents should feel guilty for being professionally driven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭Scarinae


    I think that's fairly common of anywhere that's ex-colonial territory. I lived in Malaysia briefly (from age 4-5) and we had an "Ama", who was essentially a nanny (looked after and cooked for kids) as well as cleaned the place. Wasn't uncommon really.

    My boyfriend was the same, he grew up with an 'ayah' (nanny) as well as a cook, housemaids and gardeners.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭Buceph


    When my grandmother was sick with chemotherapy the hospice used to send around someone to provide home help a couple of days a week and she'd get up early those days to have the house decent for her before she arrived.

    Yeah, before my grandmother died she used have home-help from the government where they'd come in and get her up in the morning, and someone to make her breakfast, lunch and dinner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    We had pixies in our house

    Come home from college on Friday evening and throw a sportsbag of filthy clothes in the utility room

    Leave Sunday night and they would be washed, dried, ironed and folded.

    There were pixies living in our house I tell you, only explanation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭Gordon Gecko


    Well yes obviously at both the town house and summer home there were servants (like any normal Irish houlsehold). At school, once we reached 6th form, we were assigned a younger student to "fag" for us which I found particularly helpful. However as you can imagine my entry into university wasn't as smooth, given that the practice doesn't seem to be in place there and "fagging" seems to have all sorts of vulgar connotations. Needless to say I have broken many monocles since going up to Trinity....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I remember reading some Roald Dahl novel, think it was called Boy. His early life time in public school, what we'd call boarding school I suppose

    Senior students selected a new student as their "fag"

    With outside toilets one task was go sit and warm the toilet seat which would be freezing in winter. The fag would do this so it would be somewhat warm for the senior student. They had to do all sorts of tasks

    Very strange but you know, zero gay connectations at all
    It was more of a master servant relationship. The Brits would know a lot about that. And reading the posts of people living as ex pats and colonies or former colonies, seems to have been the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    No - no maid or governess. I did have two assholes for parents though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Is Cuma Liom


    You made me laugh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Is Cuma Liom


    Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 645 ✭✭✭chicken fingers


    No, but my children will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    One my friends is from Malaowi and had servents and the whole job, she's a little weird but she's grand.

    Me?? No we were poor till about 94.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,864 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    My Mum and Dad both worked so we had a child minder called Mary. She was great.
    My big brother called her 'servant' one day and she knocked seven shades of sh1t out of him with the wooden spoon. When my Mum got home she also gave him a right going over with the wooden spoon!
    She left when she got pregnant. I still remember the shock and asking 'But how, she's not married?'.
    She came to my wedding. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    And reading the posts of people living as ex pats and colonies or former colonies, seems to have been the same

    It still is over here.

    Cost of labour is so small that you can have a live in maid/nanny for 200-300 dollars a month to cook, clean, mind kids etc. Much lower cost for someone coming in 3/4 times a week.

    Bascially anybody on a a decent western wage (not necessarily rich or that well paid, say 60k us a year) seem to have a maid, a driver or both.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Caged_Kitty


    My parents lived in South Africa before I was born there they had a Gardner and a live in cleaner/cook person. When my older brother was born he had a nanny. At the time you didn't have to be mega rich to afford these things.

    They moved back to Ireland before I was born and we then had a childminder whose own children were already grown up. She would bring us to school, and pick us up. Make all our meals breakfast lunch and dinner.

    She cared for us for us till I was six as my little brother had come along and she felt that 3 kids under ten was a bit much, She had already raised 5 of her own. That woman became a second mother to me an up until I was about 14 I would go and stay with her at weekends and on school holidays. She still got us Easter eggs, Christmas and birthday presents etc. She was so much more than a childminder.


    Then we got a proper nanny but she was far too strict. She instead on doing extra lessons etc she never played silly little childish games that mean nothing but are a lot of fun with us. Everything had to be educational. We had her about 6 months.

    Then we started with live in aupairs. They cooked, cleaned and played with us. Some even took us back to their country with them at the end of their stay for a holiday and to meet their family. Going on holiday without your parents when you’re young is the best thing ever.
    I had aupairs from the age of 7 till about 17 as I had a younger brother and sister. In all I think we had about 28 aupairs and we are still in contact with about 10.

    I wouldn’t say that we’re really well off and there are a few negatives. I have had over 32 people raise me. That's 32 different styles of parenting and slightly different rules. My parents worked a lot and during the week we only saw them for an hour or two a day and as I got older not much more on weekends. I love my parents but growing up I always felt closer to my first childminder and the current aupair. Aupair change over time was also a bit stressful as your little world was taken away and now a stranger was in it.

    Would I change it? Nope I may not be really close to my parents. But growing up without them made me very independent. I got to learn from most other cultures in Europe and I can also speak the basics in German, French, Spanish, and Italian. I also know a few different European swear words .I was also shown how to cook all different types of food. But most of all I think it has brought me, my brothers and sister closer. Sometimes I do get envious about how close my friends are to their parents, To be honest I think I don't really know my parents as they have never been around much. And as of October they are moving back to South Africa. So I will only get to see them once or twice a year.

    Would I do the same for my kids? Nope because I want to be there when they scrape their knee, I want to bring them to their first day at school and I want to be who they turn to when they get their heart broken. Not only because it's what parents do but because I know from experience that sometimes you just want your mam or dad not someone you have known for two weeks.

    We also had a window cleaner, a lady who came once a week to do some cleaning and ironing, and a person who done some gardening every now and again. Apart from the window cleaner none of these were professional.
    Some people may think that we had a silver spoon in our mouths but we always had to work for everything we got. Pocket money etc had to be earned and we had to have summer jobs from the age of 15.
    So I guess the grass isn't always greener.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    nope, we never had a housekeeper/cleaner/maid at all. myparents wouldnt have been able to afford it anyway, but even if they could they wouldnt have gone for it.

    i have to say i wouldnt be comfortable with the idea of paying someone to come into my home and clean up after me. theres no reason why i cant do it myself. (obviouisly its a different scenario if someone is sick/frail/elderly and needs a home help etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    The only nanny I had growing up was me Mammy's Mammy, the parents did all the raising and a fine job they did too if I may say so! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Had a servant named Jeeves, wasn't his real name but only referred to him that way.

    One time out in the fields we ran out of clay discs for our game of clay pigeon shooting. Daddy wasn't done shooting and demanded Jeeves sat on the machine that fired the clay discs.

    Oh, how we laughed that evening over some port in the fine room...............was a pity Jeeves didn't make it in the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    I grew up a poor bastard, but I know of lots of big houses around here that had nannies, maids, servants etc. There are a fair few estates and whatnot around Wicklow, so you just get used to them. Best part of it are the German nannies :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭RhubarbCrumble


    When my Dad was a kid they had a lady living with them who I suppose was kind of childminder/housekeeper. They weren't particularly well off or anything, but my Grandfather was a farmer and back then (1950's) it wasn't unusual for that to happen and for a guy to work there as a farm hand. That lady's name was Eileen and she was just treated as another member of the family and certainly never seen as 'the maid' or anything like that.

    When my brother and I were kids Eileen was like our third Nana. She lived with my parents in her later years (she didn't have any family of her own) but sadly passed away a few years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Yeah, we had a nanny when I was younger, from about the age of 2 and a half - 6 I suppose.


    She did bits and bobs of everything: looked after us, dressed us, took us to playgroups, made cakes with us, did art with us, cooked for us, read us stories. She was brilliant, I've still got the diaries she wrote while she was with us, it's great to see I'm still as demanding as ever.

    I don't think we were particularly privileged though. If anything, it was probably cheaper for us to have a nanny than for me and my brother to go to a nursery. It was still great to have that kind of attention and bond with one childminder though, rather than being passed around between many.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    liah wrote: »
    Has anyone grown up with a nanny, governess, maid, or help of any kind in their home, and if so, how were the help treated and how do you view them in comparison to your family or friends? Stories/experiences in general would be welcome.

    Kind of an obscure question, I know, and I'm not even sure I'll get any responses, but I'm curious, I grew up poor and want to know what the other side is like :p

    Anyone?

    We had a butler and a scullery maid. I tidied my own bedroom, the games room and the TV room thoguh.

    Since I moved out I only have a woman who comes in a cleans once a week.


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