Spoilers UFC 129: St.Pierre v Shields Spoilers

MrStuffins · 18-04-2011 05:20PM

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

And the last of those was over 2 years ago

He's been fighting the best of the best, every single contender to his belt, he's demolished them all. Do you think it'd be better if he was fighting lower level guys and KOing them into oblivion?

It's like when Baca play Madrid. They won 5-0 a few months ago, but nobody expects them to demolish Madrid 5-0 every time they go out there!

I think GSP is being unfairly judged by a lot of people who just like to hate on fighters. He dominates everyone he comes across! If he was knocking everyone out then i'm sure there'd be people saying "Ah but when was the last time he submitted someone?"

Professey Chin · 18-04-2011 05:30PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

He's been fighting the best of the best, every single contender to his belt, he's demolished them all. Do you think it'd be better if he was fighting lower level guys and KOing them into oblivion?

It's like when Baca play Madrid. They won 5-0 a few months ago, but nobody expects them to demolish Madrid 5-0 every time they go out there!

I think GSP is being unfairly judged by a lot of people who just like to hate on fighters. He dominates everyone he comes across! If he was knocking everyone out then i'm sure there'd be people saying "Ah but when was the last time he submitted someone?"

Dan Hardy?
I think itd be better if he actually looked for a finish.I recognise he is that good and could finish them if he actually tried. Instead he seems content to ride out a decision.
Demolished wouldnt be the word id use to describe his defences. Suffocated would be more apt (or jabbed).

MrStuffins · 18-04-2011 05:32PM

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Dan Hardy?
I think itd be better if he actually looked for a finish.I recognise he is that good and could finish them if he actually tried. Instead he seems content to ride out a decision.
Demolished wouldnt be the word id use to describe his defences. Suffocated would be more apt (or jabbed).

You picked one guy he's fought in all of his defences. Fact of the matter is, there isn't ONE top WW in the division that he hasn't beaten! Fitch, Koscheck, Alves, Hardy, Serra, Penn, Sherk........ all these guys were Champions or No.1 contenders when GSP got his hands on them. He's beaten them all and convincingly! Shields has come in now and I think he'll beat him too.

You don;t think he demolished Josh Koscheck?

Professey Chin · 18-04-2011 05:35PM

No I think he jabbed Koscheck. If he actually followed up the jabs then it might lean towards demolish.
Hes miles better then Kos on his feet,knew Kos had no depth perception and timing after a couple of rounds with that eye and still wouldnt go on a proper offensive

MrStuffins · 18-04-2011 05:37PM

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

No I think he jabbed Koscheck. If he actually followed up the jabs then it might lean towards demolish.
Hes miles better then Kos on his feet,knew Kos had no depth perception and timing after a couple of rounds with that eye and still wouldnt go on a proper offensive

(Sorry, I edited my post while you were replying).

So you can't demolish a guy with a jab? Of course you can! He systematically beat Koscheck down. Koscheck was NEVER in the fight!

GSP is by MILES the best WW in the world, but people still think they should pick holes in him. Ridiculous IMO!

Professey Chin · 18-04-2011 05:43PM

Im not saying hes not the best WW in the world.Im not saying he didnt dominate all his opponents.
I just want a simple answer.Why doesnt he go for a finish?
Pretty much every other world class fighter(with the exception of fitch) has finished world class opponents, a lot of them on a higher relative class then GSPs opponents. They go for the finish and they get it. We all know GSP has the ability to finish fighters and we've seen it. We've seen him be aggressive even with his current style like in the 2nd Serra fight. Why doesnt he fight like that anymore?

MrStuffins · 18-04-2011 05:56PM

Well he finished Hughes, Penn, attempted to finish Hardy, almost finished Fitch if my memory serves me correctly........

Koscheck has a lot of power. If I was controlling a fight from start to finish and my opponent's only hope of victory was that I step in to finish and he catches me on the chin............ I think i'd be smart about it!

seadnamac · 18-04-2011 06:02PM

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Dan Hardy?
I think itd be better if he actually looked for a finish.I recognise he is that good and could finish them if he actually tried. Instead he seems content to ride out a decision.
Demolished wouldnt be the word id use to describe his defences. Suffocated would be more apt (or jabbed).

What are you on about? He tried very, very hard to finish Hardy, getting him in a number of different submissions, including a kimora that looked like it was going to snap Hardy's arm off.

Xlami · 19-04-2011 01:19AM

I know this is a great card but I feel the undercard isn't great compared to others this year. I hope the Ninja Roberts fight gets put on facebook. He's the diamond in the rough at Ceaser Gracie.

Mellor · 19-04-2011 03:09AM

If Freddy Roach told me the best way to counter a guy with boxing was to double jab. then i'm gonna go out there and double jab.

Zero-Cool · 23-04-2011 06:00AM

Fighthounds has both episodes of Primetime for 129

http://fighthounds.com/ufc/ufcprimetimegspvsshield/

scudzilla · 23-04-2011 06:20AM

seadnamac wrote: »

What are you on about? He tried very, very hard to finish Hardy, getting him in a number of different submissions, including a kimora that looked like it was going to snap Hardy's arm off.

Yeah, that stubborness not to submit could have finished Hardy's career.

rivalius13 · 23-04-2011 02:40PM

All the prelim fights are on facebook. WHOOP!

clancy wiggum · 24-04-2011 01:16AM

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Oh_Noes · 24-04-2011 01:19AM

clancy wiggum wrote: »

is this being broadcast in the roi? i seen from a online tv guide that its on from 1am on espn uk? but there is french rugby on my espn, anyone know what channel its on?

You're a week early :pac:

Bellator 42 will be on in about 45 mins though. link

Zero-Cool · 24-04-2011 01:26AM

Oh_Noes wrote: »

You're a week early :pac:

Bellator 42 will be on in about 45 mins though. link

Hey Oh, any chance you have another streaming link for Bellator? That one isn't working for me.

Zero-Cool · 24-04-2011 01:37AM

Balls sorry never saw stream should be starting at 2. Don't mind me, back to shields/gsp!

Xlami · 24-04-2011 03:24AM

Thanks for the link. Mann looked great despite not finishing. GSPesque.

Niall0 · 26-04-2011 02:05AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOx3q1nJCVk

MrStuffins · 26-04-2011 03:57AM

That didnt come out half as funny as Dana White thought it would i'm guessing!

JoeyJJ · 26-04-2011 10:45AM

How good are the facebook fights live, I have watched them the next morning and its all good however are their any server issues, video get choppy, my connection should be fine however just wondering if facebook can handle all the connections?

the_doctor199 · 26-04-2011 10:50AM

JoeyJJ wrote: »

How good are the facebook fights live, I have watched them the next morning and its all good however are their any server issues, video get choppy, my connection should be fine however just wondering if facebook can handle all the connections?

They work perfect. I've noticed a few times when you put it on it takes 30 seconds or so to reach the best quality, the first 30 seconds are like one of those really awful streams, but after that it's perfect, I connect my laptop to the TV for it.

JoeyJJ · 26-04-2011 11:18AM

the_doctor199 wrote: »

They work perfect. I've noticed a few times when you put it on it takes 30 seconds or so to reach the best quality, the first 30 seconds are like one of those really awful streams, but after that it's perfect, I connect my laptop to the TV for it.

Cheers, must test on my ps3 to see if the browser on it supports that video, otherwise i'll connect to tv.

That_Guy · 26-04-2011 11:21AM

All the prelims are on Facebook? None on ESPN then?

the_doctor199 · 26-04-2011 11:27AM

That_Guy wrote: »

All the prelims are on Facebook? None on ESPN then?

Diaz vs MacDonald and Pierson vs Ellenberger are on ESPN at 1, there are 5 fights before that on Facebook though, not sure when they start, probably around 11 GMT?

Edit: Rogers Centre site says first fight is 6pm Canada Time so first fight should be 11 for us.

26-04-2011 06:20PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

That didnt come out half as funny as Dana White thought it would i'm guessing!

Thought that was brilliant. Might just be being childish though :pac:
Seriously doubt that Chuck built the card. What's his role again?

Xlami · 27-04-2011 01:03AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Thought that was brilliant. Might just be being childish though :pac:
Seriously doubt that Chuck built the card. What's his role again?

Yeah I really enjoyed it, but very childish.

27-04-2011 02:27PM

Can't pick between Matyushenko and Brilz for my accumulator. So far I have Shields, Aldo, Machida, McDonald. Might change Machida to Couture depending on the odds

Zero-Cool · 27-04-2011 02:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Can't pick between Matyushenko and Brilz for my accumulator. So far I have Shields, Aldo, Machida, McDonald. Might change Machida to Couture depending on the odds

I'd stick to 4 you have man, maty and brilz is too risky. May I ask what odds you are getting with that accum?

SDTimeout · 27-04-2011 02:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Can't pick between Matyushenko and Brilz for my accumulator. So far I have Shields, Aldo, Machida, McDonald. Might change Machida to Couture depending on the odds

13/1 .

Not bad, i myself won't be betting on the Machida match because of how you can never count out Randy and I think Diaz will beat McDonald but they both are 5/6

I'd be backing Shields though at 7/2. He's also a massive 9/1 for a win by Submission and 20/1 for KO....

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