Collins Vs Dev. The final battle.

Terry · 17-04-2011 12:59AM #1

Which outcome would you have preferred?

Seeing as how Collins was killed, this is entirely hypothetical.
However, I've put localised options in the (upcoming. Be patient, bitches) poll for kicks.

chillywilly · 17-04-2011 01:00AM

From Dublin and support Dev

poll?

chillywilly · 17-04-2011 01:01AM

From Dublin and support Dev

me no like patience.

kowloon · 17-04-2011 01:05AM

I don't care

Collins had a fierce uppercut but nothing to stand up to Devs prancing lizard technique.

Would love to see some alternative history with Collins as the boss.

chalkitdown · 17-04-2011 01:05AM

There doesn't seem to be enough options available in the poll.

Terry · 17-04-2011 01:09AM

I don't care

chalkitdown wrote: »

There doesn't seem to be enough options available in the poll.

Sorry about that.
Mods, could one of you please add "Support McCarthy Dundon" to the poll?

chalkitdown · 17-04-2011 01:12AM

Terry wrote: »

Sorry about that.
Mods, could one of you please add "Support McCarthy Dundon" to the poll?

LOL, you plick.

Pride Fighter · 17-04-2011 01:13AM

James Connolly.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 17-04-2011 01:14AM

I don't care

Collins would win, I know at least 5 people alive today named Michael Collins. How many Eamon De Valeras do you know?
Simple mathematics, Collins would be victorious

Offy · 17-04-2011 01:33AM

From Dublin and support Collins

Dev wasnt executed in 1916 because he had an American passport? Is that right? So the Americans created unrest and then planted their own man in charge of the country, had Collins off'ed and look at us now

oh this is AH not CT opps-a-daisy!

orourkeda · 17-04-2011 01:39AM

Mary Harney would take both of them

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 17-04-2011 01:40AM

Dev= Dublin isn't all that strong of a connection. But if ye want to claim him feel free :pac:

starbelgrade · 17-04-2011 01:41AM

Who is Dev?

I'm surprised that MTV hasn't done a Celebrity Death Match on this yet.

Yakult · 17-04-2011 01:43AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDwizk81oJQ

orourkeda · 17-04-2011 01:43AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

I'm surprised that MTV hasn't done a Celebrity Death Match on this yet.

I'm not

LETHAL LADY · 17-04-2011 01:47AM

From Cork and support Dev

I would naturally choose the Irishman.

OutlawPete · 17-04-2011 01:53AM

An out of shape fighter, who relies on hypnotism to go the distance Vs an internet entrepreneur.
Sounds like a battle not to be missed, I want ringside seats dammit.

OPENROAD · 17-04-2011 01:57AM

Will this be pay per view of free to air?

Sanjuro · 17-04-2011 03:04AM

From Dublin and support Dev

I demand a video similar to this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msFljrJ7M4A

Worztron · 18-04-2011 07:16PM

From Cork and support Dev

de Valera sent Collins (who he knew was not as good a negotiator) knowing full well that Collins could not have gotten a better deal. That way Collins bore the brunt of the backlash. I do think that Collins saw the treaty as a stepping stone and not as a final step. We only got a free state but did get a Republic in 1949 (62 years today). A 32 county Republic may be impossible now due to Fianna FAIL economic suicide (how ironic for the anti treaty party).

Mike 1972 · 18-04-2011 07:25PM

Wheres the none of the above option ?

Offy wrote: »

Dev wasnt executed in 1916 because he had an American passport? Is that right?

Legally he couldnt have been executed for treason as he wasnt a British subject.

Worztron · 18-04-2011 07:27PM

From Cork and support Dev

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Legally he couldnt have been executed for treason as he wasnt a British subject.

Correct.

PeterIanStaker · 18-04-2011 08:05PM

I don't care

I ticked the "I'm an adult and realise that the civil war is over" box, but I still think Dev was a slimy bastard who would have hung his own granny out to dry.

Scrambled egg · 18-04-2011 08:07PM

From Dublin and support Dev

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFsTrvJGiDc

Krusader · 18-04-2011 08:23PM

Collins could've always told Lloyd George to piss on his treaty, it was an option.

If Collins wasn't killed would future generations have had such distain for Dev. I don't think so

K-9 · 18-04-2011 10:58PM

I don't care

Crosáidí wrote: »

Collins could've always told Lloyd George to piss on his treaty, it was an option.

If Collins wasn't killed would future generations have had such distain for Dev. I don't think so

Collins has that James Dean type of mystique. Would he have been that different from Cosgrave? who was extremely conservative and a CnaG and FG figures that tended to be more conservative than DeV, I have my doubts.

Lapin · 18-04-2011 11:08PM

What time are the usual shower of shinners and misguided republicans due to turn up and hijack this thread with their usual guff about 800 years of woe and angst?

Should I reach for the popcorn now or come back later?

TFK · 18-04-2011 11:16PM

From Dublin and support Dev

I got a B in my LC because of Collins (well not the actual him obviously) I remember feck all now but still, I'm proud of my result :P

OutlawPete · 18-04-2011 11:36PM

Lapin wrote: »

.. woe and angst?

Touch of woe and angst yourself there sir.

Dwellingdweller · 18-04-2011 11:38PM

From Dublin and support Collins

"I'm an adult and realise the civil war is over"-wha? I think everyone realises the civil war is over*. also, COLLINS COLLINS COLLINS!

*I have a malfunctioning sarcasm detector...

Capt'n Midnight · 18-04-2011 11:47PM

From Dublin and support Dev

Pity those who ignored the will of the majority are still stirring it up.

The resources wasted during the civil war would have made a difference to winning the north back, whether by military means or hearts and minds or economic means is a matter of conjecture.

As for Dev how can you respect someone who more or less started the civil war (he could probably have prevented it at the least) over an issue that he later just ignored.

Collins Vs Dev. The final battle.

Collins or Dev 97 votes

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