How to save a life...

Einstein · 13-04-2011 05:38PM #1

Soo..

Simple question..

Who knows CPR and how to use an AED?

Would ye use one? Have you got one in your workplace?

hmmm????

Ardennes1944 · 13-04-2011 05:39PM

blast them with air!

Seedy Arling · 13-04-2011 05:39PM

Havent a clue.

SV · 13-04-2011 05:41PM

I'm a qualificed Occupational First Aider.
Whatever that means.

Mark200 · 13-04-2011 05:41PM

I did a CPR course 5 years ago... got a certificate and all. I remember bits of it, but could do with a bit of refreshing

Aoifey! · 13-04-2011 05:42PM

I was meant to learn CPR when we were teaching the Scouts (I'm a leader) first aid, but I never did.

Wazdakka · 13-04-2011 05:42PM

Been trained in both,

Haven't had to ever use either thankfully

13-04-2011 05:43PM

great, you made me have to listen to the song now

cosmicfart · 13-04-2011 05:43PM

Ride them back to life!

Dangerous Man · 13-04-2011 05:43PM

I have no time to help people. People need to help themselves - I have no inclination to give people handouts. I got to the top by being ruthless, by being a 1980's business powerhouse. I didn't get here by letting anybody get in my way, looking for an undeserved leg up on the bottom rung. No, if you want CPR, don't expect me to do it for you. Learn it yourself. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there.

Einstein · 13-04-2011 05:45PM

Just curious.

5000 people in Ireland die from sudden cardiac arrest every year. That sucks.

Be nice to be able to help eh?

NeitherJohn · 13-04-2011 05:45PM

Trained in both, used training twice.

Successfully

jd007 · 13-04-2011 05:46PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjVQ36NhbMk

user1842 · 13-04-2011 05:46PM

Dangerous Man wrote: »

I have no time to help people. People need to help themselves - I have no inclination to give people handouts. I got to the top by being ruthless, by being a 1980's business powerhouse. I didn't get here by letting anybody get in my way, looking for an undeserved leg up on the bottom rung. No, if you want CPR, don't expect me to do it for you. Learn it yourself. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there.

Your the 80's guy in Futurama

RichieC · 13-04-2011 05:46PM

I'm a doctor! someone call 999 and get me some wet towels.

Seedy Arling · 13-04-2011 05:47PM

jd007 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjVQ36NhbMk

I was just about to ask who did that suck ass song.

Local-womanizer · 13-04-2011 05:47PM

The AEDs are idiot prove. If the patient doesn't need a shock the machine will not let you give one.

Azureus · 13-04-2011 05:48PM

I've no idea how to but would like to.
I've offered to go on the first aid courses with work multiple times and they never got back to me; instead they have the guy down as the First Aider here twice a week instead of me whose here five days a week. That said, not bothered enough to go learn independantly.

Tubsandtiles · 13-04-2011 05:48PM

I done a occupational first aid course recently so yes

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NeitherJohn · 13-04-2011 05:49PM

Azureus wrote: »

I've no idea how to but would like to.
I've offered to go on the first aid courses with work multiple times and they never got back to me; instead they have the guy down as the First Aider here twice a week instead of me whose here five days a week. That said, not bothered enough to go learn independantly.

You should! The occupational first aid course standard now includes AED training. Kill two birds with the one stone

Einstein · 13-04-2011 05:50PM

NeitherJohn wrote: »

You should! The occupational first aid course standard now includes AED training. Kill two birds with the one stone

Or you can just do CPR, AED and choking in a 4 hour course!

NeitherJohn · 13-04-2011 05:55PM

Einstein wrote: »

Or you can just do CPR, AED and choking in a 4 hour course!

True, although at the moment I'd be doing all the upskilling I could.

George83 · 13-04-2011 05:55PM

I have my ALS (advanced life support) qualification ... but then I am an RGN.

It's surprising how many of the general public don't know the basics of resuscitation really.

RichieC · 13-04-2011 05:56PM

George83 wrote: »

I have my ALS (advanced life support) qualification ... but then I am an RGN.

It's surprising how many of the general public don't know the basics of resuscitation really.

Returned goods notice?

Einstein · 13-04-2011 05:57PM

George83 wrote: »

I have my ALS (advanced life support) qualification ... but then I am an RGN.

It's surprising how many of the general public don't know the basics of resuscitation really.

Be surprised how many doctors and nurses don't either!
I remember the first time I was sent to teach in a medical centre. Faced with docs and nurses who hadn't done CPR in 10 or 15 years.

George83 · 13-04-2011 05:57PM

RichieC wrote: »

Returned goods notice?

LOL. Registered General Nurse.

RichieC · 13-04-2011 05:59PM

George83 · 13-04-2011 06:01PM

Einstein wrote: »

Be surprised how many doctors and nurses don't either!
I remember the first time I was sent to teach in a medical centre. Faced with docs and nurses who hadn't done CPR in 10 or 15 years.

Actually that wouldn't surprise me either. Mind you, despite going on the courses and having the 'skills' I haven't had to do CPR since qualifying 6 years ago ... hope I haven't jinxed my next shift now.

Captain_Generic · 13-04-2011 06:07PM

CPR is pretty useless in most cases, its fairly well known that CPR almost never works (something between 2 - 4% survival rate), and unlike the movies if the persons heart has already stopped it won't do anything

Einstein · 13-04-2011 06:09PM

Captain_Generic wrote: »

CPR is pretty useless in most cases, its fairly well known that CPR almost never works (something between 2 - 4% survival rate), and unlike the movies if the persons heart has already stopped it won't do anything

Indeed correct, although it will keep the body supplied with oxygen to give time for advanced care to get there!
Bring an AED into that situation within 3-4 mins and survival rate jumps to about 70%!

NeitherJohn · 13-04-2011 06:11PM

Captain_Generic wrote: »

CPR is pretty useless in most cases, its fairly well known that CPR almost never works (something between 2 - 4% survival rate), and unlike the movies if the persons heart has already stopped it won't do anything

It's not supposed to work on its own. It does sometimes, but it's ridiculously rare. CPR buys time until the arrival of an AED. You have about 4 minutes before irreversible damage occurs. Chance of survival decreases about 10% a minute. If an AED can't do anything for them then there's probably a serious amount of underlying damage.

CPR is probably the most important link in the chain of survival.

And the easiest one for the public to get to grips with

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