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Pepper spraying an 8 year old

  • 09-04-2011 05:41PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Cops in the US sprayed an out-of-control 8 year old with pepper spray after he started threatening everyone with a sharpened piece of wood.

    What does AH think? Did the cops go to far? Is this just a lack of discipline issue or does this kid need psychological help?

    http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/06/police-pepper-spray-8-year-old-aidan-elliott-in-colorado-element/

    Aidan Elliott admits that he was out of control.

    When police entered his second-grade classroom, Aidan, an 8-year-old Colorado boy, was in the midst of a violent tantrum, wielding a sharp piece of molding he had ripped off the wall and used to threaten his teachers' lives.

    His mother, however, says there's no excuse for what happened next.

    Police, seeking to diffuse the situation, sprayed Aidan with pepper spray, twice.

    "He's a child. There were two grown police officers and they didn't even try to talk to him," Aidan's mom, Mandy Elliott, said in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America." "You talk to him and you find out what it is that's bothering him as well. You don't just walk in, ask him to stop and then spray."

    Aidan, however, says he understood the officers' actions.

    "I kinda deserved it," he told NBC's "Today" show Wednesday. "I just get angry a lot."

    But the unusual confrontation, which took place Feb. 22 at Glennon Heights Elementary School in Lakewood, Colo., has some questioning whether police used excessive force. Elliott says she's filing a complaint with the Police Department.

    Lakewood police say they have no regrets and did their best to make sure no one was harmed in the classroom, where teachers were so afraid of Aidan that they had barricaded themselves in a closet.

    "You've got teachers barricading themselves in a room. They are obviously frightened," Lakewood Police spokesman Steve Davis told KUSA-TV. "I think they not only made the right choice, they made a great choice that day to use the pepper spray."

    Aidan's mother said her son only gets upset at school and doesn't experience the same kind of meltdowns at home with his family. The second-grader, who has since transferred to a different school, told ABC that school makes him uncomfortable and said he would rather be home with his mother.

    When asked if he had intended to use the wall trim as a weapon and actually hurt his teachers, Aidan replied, "Um, kind of."

    Later, though, he said he was sorry for the way he had behaved.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    Pepper spray the parents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    aw c'mon its not like they shot him, the kid was terrorising them he deserved it imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    I'm hungry :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Pepper spray the parents.

    Oh so it was the parents in the classroom going nuts with the piece of wood?

    How a grown man couldn't go over and just pick the kid up is beyond me. Excessive imo. Child was way out of order, but he's a child... don't pepper spray him...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    but he's a child... don't pepper spray him...

    Dr Pepper him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    Oh so it was the parents in the classroom going nuts with the piece of wood?


    Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    pepper spray him with piss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Can't. Stop. Laughing. At. Thread. Title. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭PandyAndy


    Dr Pepper him.

    Sure, what's the worse that could happen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Hang on here, what bloody cops get themselves barracaded when dealing with one 8 year old...?

    They'll go neuclear on a protester but they're scared of a kid?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    Oh so it was the parents in the classroom going nuts with the piece of wood?

    How a grown man couldn't go over and just pick the kid up is beyond me. Excessive imo. Child was way out of order, but he's a child... don't pepper spray him...

    And if that kid had one mark on him, his parents would have sued the police department for child abuse.

    Honestly, I don't know how teachers in the US do it; the inmates are definitely running the asylum, and they know more about 'their rights' than a jailhouse lawyer.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why exactly was Pepper spraying a child so young?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    should have tazered the wee bag of pish


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Its only pepper spray ffs. Yes it will sting like a bitch for a few hours but it sucessfully imobilises the target who was clearly a threat to the public. 8 years old or not, he found himself in a situation that he shouldnt be in at that age, police thought him a lesson and hopefully he learned he's lesson.

    We should do it to some of the youth here, would shut them the fcuk up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭The Shtig


    He was threatening the lives of the teachers, students and cops of course he should have been pepper sprayed. If he wasn't he would continue to act the same way as he knew he could pretty much get away with it.

    It should be dealt seriously after the likes of the Columbine and Virginia Tech shootings (even though this situation is nothing compared to those events), there should be no threat to children in schools.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Why exactly was Pepper spraying a child so young?

    That Pepper was taking the piss. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    he got off lightly. our gardaí probably would have threatened to rape him and befriend him on facebox.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Martha Agreeable Strikeout


    Why were the police called for a tantrum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Sounds like a bit more than a tantrum having watched the link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    Adults dealing with kids can be harsh, especially if they have to manhandle the kid.

    You have two grown men grabbing hold of a kid, could be easy to hurt him. Added to this is the fact that all it takes is one person to see things the wrong way and scream 'paedo!' or make allegations of 'inappropriate touching', and you could ruined the lives of two men trying to do their job.

    IMO pepper spray was the safest option, both for the kid, and for the police officers.


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  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Why were the police called for a tantrum

    It's no longer a tantrum when a weapon is involved, with the intention of inflicting injury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Milky Moo


    This lead me to think about that story of that kindergardener who got suspended for pretending a chicken dipper was a gun. Now I would love some chicken dippers......mmmmm!

    Anyway back on topic, it seems awfully extreme even if the kid was going crazy pepper spray is way too severe!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭PrincessLola


    Is pepper spray legal in Ireland? I want some..:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭davetherave


    Police officer dies from blood loss after aggressive child with sharpened wooden stake stabs him in femoral artery. The officer in question was apparently attempting to calm the child down when the incident occurred.

    Kid who poses a threat has itchy eyes for four hours after being restrained with non-lethal agent.


    Hmmm yes, I can see which outcome would be better all right :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    No need to pepper spray an 8 year old ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    ...and yet people lose the plot completely if a parent smacks a child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Hunter Mahan


    It was only Pepper Spray, stings a bit, but he'll get over it. I never knew there were so many pretentious, bleeding heart liberals living in this country.

    I blame Glee and Home and Away..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Pepper spraying an 8 year old

    Thread disappoints.
    I thought this was about Brian Pepper spraying an 8 year old


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭Homer


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Why were the police called for a tantrum

    In the clip it says it was the third time the police have been called for this child? Spawn of Satan or what! Tazer the little git next time!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Is pepper spray legal in Ireland? I want some..:cool:

    I bet you do ;)



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