Anton Hysen Reveals That He's Gay

amiable · 11-03-2011 04:09PM

Oatesy23 wrote: »

He said sorry, calm down.

Yes Mr Mod, anything else you'd like from me?
I am very calm actually.

_blank_ · 11-03-2011 04:41PM

eagle eye wrote: »

I don't get why its such a big deal when somebody comes out and says they are gay.

Because being gay is the last great taboo in the sport.

There are still homophobic chants in nearly every ground.

I fully believe that an openly gay, high profile footballer would be subject to the same abuse Black players were subjected to in the 70s and 80s from the terraces.

You'd get songs, wolf whistles and probably "gay" stuff thrown at them like bananas were used in the past to taunt black players.

Words like "fággot" and "gay" as a put down are still used by a good number of people as part of their everyday colloquialisms. You'd often hear a bloke who doesn't fancy Cheryl Cole being called a fag.

Yes, gay jokes are still rife in everyday life, so it must still be incredibly hard for a gay person to build up the courage to "come out", not only to their parents and friends, but to the whole world if they are a famous footballer too?

I'd describe them as brave people.

One of my best mates is gay, and I was one of the last of our bunch he came out to, me and another bloke. Why? Because we like football, and he thought we wouldn't accept him because we were "too manly" for the likes of that.

No matter what you say, no matter what "stance" you take, there is still a fairly big stigma attached to being gay/coming out. That stigma is increased a hundredfold in the world of football.

amiable · 11-03-2011 04:54PM

Des wrote: »

Because being gay is the last great taboo in the sport.

There are still homophobic chants in nearly every ground.

I fully believe that an openly gay, high profile footballer would be subject to the same abuse Black players were subjected to in the 70s and 80s from the terraces.

You'd get songs, wolf whistles and probably "gay" stuff thrown at them like bananas were used in the past to taunt black players.

Words like "fággot" and "gay" as a put down are still used by a good number of people as part of their everyday colloquialisms. You'd often hear a bloke who doesn't fancy Cheryl Cole being called a fag.

Yes, gay jokes are still rife in everyday life, so it must still be incredibly hard for a gay person to build up the courage to "come out", not only to their parents and friends, but to the whole world if they are a famous footballer too?

I'd describe them as brave people.

One of my best mates is gay, and I was one of the last of our bunch he came out to, me and another bloke. Why? Because we like football, and he thought we wouldn't accept him because we were "too manly" for the likes of that.

No matter what you say, no matter what "stance" you take, there is still a fairly big stigma attached to being gay/coming out. That stigma is increased a hundredfold in the world of football.

I couldn't agree with you more.

I think its a disgrace that Footballers should need to hide their life to the very people who supposedly idolise them for fear of in extreme circumstances their life put in jeopardy.

Bodhisopha · 11-03-2011 04:56PM

Des wrote: »

Because being gay is the last great taboo in the sport.

There are still homophobic chants in nearly every ground.

I fully believe that an openly gay, high profile footballer would be subject to the same abuse Black players were subjected to in the 70s and 80s from the terraces.

You'd get songs, wolf whistles and probably "gay" stuff thrown at them like bananas were used in the past to taunt black players.

Words like "fággot" and "gay" as a put down are still used by a good number of people as part of their everyday colloquialisms. You'd often hear a bloke who doesn't fancy Cheryl Cole being called a fag.

Yes, gay jokes are still rife in everyday life, so it must still be incredibly hard for a gay person to build up the courage to "come out", not only to their parents and friends, but to the whole world if they are a famous footballer too?

I'd describe them as brave people.

One of my best mates is gay, and I was one of the last of our bunch he came out to, me and another bloke. Why? Because we like football, and he thought we wouldn't accept him because we were "too manly" for the likes of that.

No matter what you say, no matter what "stance" you take, there is still a fairly big stigma attached to being gay/coming out. That stigma is increased a hundredfold in the world of football.

And the man who married her still gets called a fag!

You just can't win.

amiable · 11-03-2011 04:59PM

Bodhisopha wrote: »

And the man who married her still gets called a fag!

You just can't win.

How do you know that wasn't a sham marriage?

He shouldn't be called anything in the first place except a money grabber imo but that's not a crime?

_blank_ · 11-03-2011 05:00PM

amiable wrote: »

I couldn't agree with you more.

I think its a disgrace that Footballers should need to hide their life to the very people who supposedly idolise them for fear of in extreme circumstances their life put in jeopardy.

Stuff like "I wouldn't get in the shower with him after a game" must be incredibly hurtful for anyone going through dealing with the emotions, especially from a group of lads on a football team that they'd see as their mates.

It's going to take a generation or two more before there is an openly gay, high profile footballer, still playing the game.

I wouldn't be surprised if, in the next few years, some ex-player(s) come out in public, but after they've finished playing.

Bodhisopha · 11-03-2011 05:03PM

amiable wrote: »

How do you know that wasn't a sham marriage?

He shouldn't be called anything in the first place except a money grabber imo but that's not a crime?

So a popstar that was convicted of attacking a black toilet attendant marries a closeted black footballer to improve her public image, prove she's not racist, land a job on x-factor before going over to the states to make it big?

Suuuuuuureeeeee.

amiable · 11-03-2011 05:03PM

Des wrote: »

Stuff like "I wouldn't get in the shower with him after a game" must be incredibly hurtful for anyone going through dealing with the emotions, especially from a group of lads on a football team that they'd see as their mates.

It's going to take a generation or two more before there is an openly gay, high profile footballer, still playing the game.

I wouldn't be surprised if, in the next few years, some ex-player(s) come out in public, but after they've finished playing.

I think it will probably be someone coming to the end of a decent career who has a strong personality to be the first playing player to 'come out'

Cianan2 · 11-03-2011 05:04PM

I remember hearing that Manuel Neuer, the Schalke keeper came out recently. He said something about hoping that all gay footballers will do like him and declare their sexuality.... That was a few months ago, and this is the first story I've heard since!

Des is right, there is definitely a fear there.

amiable · 11-03-2011 05:06PM

Bodhisopha wrote: »

So a popstar that was convicted of attacking a black toilet attendant marries a closeted black footballer to improve her public image, prove she's not racist, land a job on x-factor before going over to the states to make it big?

Suuuuuuureeeeee.

It wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened.

Hollywood is famous for it. Rock Hudson was a massive star in his day and married a woman even though he was gay to cover everything up.

Some z list celebs marry eachother not cos they are gay but just to give their career a push.

Who says it doesn't happen in football

Bodhisopha · 11-03-2011 05:08PM

amiable wrote: »

It wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened.

Hollywood is famous for it. Rock Hudson was a massive star in his day and married a woman even though he was gay to cover everything up.

Some z list celebs marry eachother not cos they are gay but just to give their career a push.

Who says it doesn't happen in football

I was joking mate, it's very possible.

Even his cheating could've been engineered to break the sham marriage. He'd be a fool to agree to that though.

amiable · 11-03-2011 05:12PM

Bodhisopha wrote: »

I was joking mate, it's very possible.

Even his cheating could've been engineered to break the sham marriage. He'd be a fool to agree to that though.

I'm sorry i didn't pick up the sarcasm
Who knows mate. Tis a strange world we live in

Paully D · 11-03-2011 05:31PM

Cianan2 wrote: »

I remember hearing that Manuel Neuer, the Schalke keeper came out recently. He said something about hoping that all gay footballers will do like him and declare their sexuality.... That was a few months ago, and this is the first story I've heard since!

Des is right, there is definitely a fear there.

Neuer hasn't came out as gay, instead encouraging those that are actually gay to do so:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/09022011/58/bundesliga-neuer-urges-gay-footballers.html

The 24-year-old told a German celebrity magazine that coming out would lift a great weight from gay players' shoulders, and that fans would soon accept it.
"Yes, those who are gay should say so. It relieves a burden," said Manuel Neuer in the magazine Bunte.

"And the fans will get over it quickly. What matters is the performance delivered by the player, not his sexual preference."

While homosexuality is a big taboo across the game of football, in Germany the subject is being increasingly acknowledged.

Neuer's comments follow on from those of Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez last November.

"They would play as if they had been liberated," Gomez said at the time. "Being gay should no longer be a taboo topic."

Former second division footballer Marcus Urban is the only German footballer ever to come out, but he only did so in 2007, several years after his retirement.

Seaneh · 11-03-2011 05:40PM

amiable wrote: »

How do you know that wasn't a sham marriage?

He shouldn't be called anything in the first place except a money grabber imo but that's not a crime?

Ashley cole has a made a lot more money in the last 10 years than Cheryl Tweedy...
If either of them was a money grabber it would be her, she was making pittance compared to him when they got married.

amiable · 11-03-2011 05:45PM

Seaneh wrote: »

Ashley cole has a made a lot more money in the last 10 years than Cheryl Tweedy...
If either of them was a money grabber it would be her, she was making pittance compared to him when they got married.

I think you have missed the point completely on this.
Its actually not about him being a money grabber.
Its about what both him and her could gain out of a sham marriage if it were true.
It was to prove how stupid calling him a ****** really is.

I think its fairly obvious that Ashley Cole has a massive fondness for money from his own story of nearly crashing when he was talking to his agent

Pepe LeFrits · 29-03-2011 10:11AM

There's a nice piece on the Guardian today on him.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/29/anton-hysen-afraid-coming-out

pickarooney · 29-03-2011 10:15AM

A thousand Blue Square Premiership players are probably nodding in silent agreement that it's their sexuality that's keeping them out of the big leagues.

fulhamfanincork · 29-03-2011 06:53PM

pickarooney wrote: »

A thousand Blue Square Premiership players are probably nodding in silent agreement that it's their sexuality that's keeping them out of the big leagues.

:eek:
is that hyperbole?

Guy:Incognito · 29-03-2011 10:11PM

On his left arm, in particularly elaborate lettering, is: "UNWA".

I hope thats a typo on the papers end

SeantheMan · 30-03-2011 07:43AM

Why is someone being gay worthy of a thread ?

shotamoose · 30-03-2011 09:17AM

Because a footballer being openly gay is so incredibly rare that it is "news". Hopefully some time soon it will no longer be.

bonerm · 30-03-2011 09:56AM

It'd probably be news if a big star International player (eg Ashley Cole - who's definetly not gay btw) came out and admitted he was gay. A story about some 4th division Swede doesn't really have much punch to it no matter how rare it may be. In fact I'm sure the story wouldn't have even got this far if the guy wasn't the son of Glenn Hysen. People would just be going "who?" and dumping the story rather than pushing it on the grounds of it being some sort of rarity.

JerryHandbag · 30-03-2011 09:57AM

I never thought I'd see the day when a GAA player would come out, so maybe a high profile football player doing the same isnt that far away.

Renn · 30-03-2011 10:21AM

dreamers75 wrote: »

Glenn Hysen was Awesome, one of my "im him" players from the 80s.

Excellent and relevant first reply :cool:

greendom · 30-03-2011 10:36AM

SeantheMan wrote: »

Why is someone being gay worthy of a thread ?

It's not that he's gay that's the issue but that he was brave enough to come out.

Becuase gay footballers are afraid to come out. Football clubs don't seem to have kept pace with society in terms of discrimination in this area. It's an issue that needs resolving and the more players that are brave enough to do it the better

Son Of A Vidic · 30-03-2011 12:44PM

It took a bit of courage to do that, I'm sure plenty are still left in the closet unwilling to take a similar step. Someone's sexual orientation should not be an issue in Football, but for many it is.

event · 30-03-2011 11:05PM

eagle eye wrote: »

I don't get why its such a big deal when somebody comes out and says they are gay.

well the last (and only) player to do so in england was justin fashanu.

when he came out, numerous former colleagues slated him, saying "gays" had no place in team sport. his own brother disowned him.

its a massive deal and one which should be applauded. the fact that numerous men cant come out due to fear of abuse from colleagues, supporters and news papers is very sad IMO. anyone who does come out, no matter what division should be applauded.

Anton Hysen Reveals That He's Gay

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