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  • #32
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    zenno wrote: »
    these so-called scientists used to call it global warming' now they call it climate change because global warming has been proved a false analogy.

    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


    not that you'd be interested.


  • #33
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    zenno wrote: »
    also the climate is always naturally changing and has been for millions of years. climate change is a scam.

    Indeed ice core sampling has shown the natural cycles of climate change going back hundreds of thousands of years. CO2 rises and CO2 falls, oh and guess what? Home Sapiens weren't even around


  • #34
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    Indeed ice core sampling has shown the natural cycles of climate change going back hundreds of thousands of years. CO2 rises and CO2 falls, oh and guess what? Home Sapiens weren't even around

    The velocity of change was far, far slower in previous cycles.


  • #35
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    Indeed ice core sampling has shown the natural cycles of climate change going back hundreds of thousands of years. CO2 rises and CO2 falls, oh and guess what? Home Sapiens weren't even around

    look at the link I just posted right above you.

    no? not surprised...


  • #36
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    RichieC wrote: »
    The debate is over actually, just a few stragglers who are buying the oil industries propaganda and of course those that profit directly from it.... the same people would have been defending Asbestos and lead in paint.
    NASA Study Acknowledges Solar Cycle, Not Man, Responsible for Past Warming


    Money money money...........................


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  • #37
    Fallschirmjager
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭Fallschirmjager


    Offy wrote: »
    Yet the tax on my car is defined by its CO2 emissions. I pay nearly €900 per year because of this.


    you see the key word...TAX....its just another way to get your money. nothing more nothing less...the greens are yet another group who redistribute wealth.

    i will bet you this...

    lets assume everyone buys a prius (lest ignore their batteries and disposal)...do you seriously think that somehow the govt will then stop taxing you and do with less? do you think they will live with less petrol tax?


    no they wont...lets guess..it will be another crisis...that needs urgent action, and only taxing you more can solve it

    and as for the debate is over...NO it isnt...it is to people who have disposed of science utilising selective facts that suit their dogma-- and that applies to both sides by the way.


  • #38
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    digme wrote: »
    NASA Study Acknowledges Solar Cycle, Not Man, Responsible for Past Warming


    Money money money...........................


    link me the actual study or don't bother mate....


  • #39
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    RichieC wrote: »
    look at the link I just posted right above you.

    no? not surprised...
    Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. Studying these climate data collected over many years reveal the signals of a changing climate.
    those satellites were found to be faulty recently.


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seems a lot of people in this thread need to look up the meaning of "consensus" in the dictionary.


  • #41
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    digme wrote: »
    those satellites were found to be faulty recently.

    cite please.


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  • #42
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    digme wrote: »
    those satellites were found to be faulty recently.

    By who? Any evidence at all to back this up? Oh and typing in bold does not make you right, it just makes you sound angry.


  • #43
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    RichieC wrote: »
    link me the actual study or don't bother mate....
    here you go "mate" enjoy

    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/solar_variability.html


  • #44
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    The other great thing about climate change is it focuses every bodies attention away from all the actual damaging pollution that big companies do. They've managed to turn it back on everybody else by saying it's our fault for driving their cars.

    All talk of human pollution has been reduced down to CO2, we're like mindless sheep jumping on whatever bandwagon the press drive by in.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    I read the first sentence, which had CO2 and ozone next to each other. That needed instant correcting, and I assumed that one huge, fundamental error was enough for any one post to contain so went about explaing the difference for anyone that might like to know.

    I later returned to read the rest of the OP to find another glaring factual inaccuracy, which I felt merited correction.

    That and I'm a really slow reader.:)
    When I do that I usually go back to find the OP was only joking in the first line and I went off on one for no reason.


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ScumLord wrote: »
    When I do that I usually go back to find the OP was only joking in the first line and I went off on one for no reason.

    Hmm, good point, will remember that in future, thankfully wasn't the case this time.


  • #46
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    RichieC wrote: »
    cite please.
    http://co2insanity.com/2010/08/19/leading-us-physicist-labels-satellitegate-scandal-a-%E2%80%98catastrophe%E2%80%99/


  • #47
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    digme wrote: »
    here you go "mate" enjoy

    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/solar_variability.html

    The solar cycle is around 11 years. Global warming refers to the increase in temerature since the industrial revolution. Anyway the models show that while the sun approaching solar max accounts for some of the heating, the rest is likely down to CO2.

    "Over the past century, Earth's average temperature has increased by approximately 0.6 degrees Celsius (1.1 degrees Fahrenheit). Solar heating accounts for about 0.15 C, or 25 percent, of this change, according to computer modeling results published by NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies researcher David Rind in 2004." - from the link you posted.


  • #48
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    digme wrote: »
    here you go "mate" enjoy

    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/solar_variability.html

    I read that and honestly don't see where it at any point supports the climate change skeptic POV..


  • #49
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    digme wrote: »
    http://co2insanity.com/2010/08/19/leading-us-physicist-labels-satellitegate-scandal-a-%E2%80%98catastrophe%E2%80%99/

    Lol. CO2insanity.com. A nice unbiased source if ever there was one.


  • #50
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    digme wrote: »
    http://co2insanity.com/2010/08/19/leading-us-physicist-labels-satellitegate-scandal-a-%E2%80%98catastrophe%E2%80%99/

    C02insanity.com... jesus *****ng christ...


  • #51
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The velocity of change was far, far slower in previous cycles.

    Hey guess what? Ireland once had an Ice Age - mad isn't it? I wonder what caused this Ice Age. Did the Atlantic conveyor switch off or something? Jaysus what caused that I wonder? Because we certainly didn't.

    The evidence is Hidden in plain site, Mother Earth has all the records it just depends how people wish to interpret them. Thanks to recent exposures, we all know how good some in the Climate change camp are at manipulating evidence.
    RichieC wrote: »
    look at the link I just posted right above you.

    no? not surprised...

    Ah poor oul NASA, with their space budget seriously snipped I suppose they need to hang on to some funding. Anyone remember their premature claims of Alien life back in the Nineties?


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  • #52
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The solar cycle is around 11 years. Global warming refers to the increase in temerature since the industrial revolution. Anyway the models show that while the sun approaching solar max accounts for some of the heating, the rest is likely down to CO2.

    "Over the past century, Earth's average temperature has increased by approximately 0.6 degrees Celsius (1.1 degrees Fahrenheit). Solar heating accounts for about 0.15 C, or 25 percent, of this change, according to computer modeling results published by NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies researcher David Rind in 2004." - from the link you posted.



    Scientists drill through 2 kilometers of Greenland ice, find butterflies & lush forests

    http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2011/03/scientists-drill-through-2-kilometers.html


  • #53
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    Ah poor oul NASA, with their space budget seriously snipped I suppose they need to hang on to some funding. Anyone remember their premature claims of Alien life back in the Nineties?

    :rolleyes:


    seriously... get real.


  • #54
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Lol. CO2insanity.com. A nice unbiased source if ever there was one.
    the same could be said about nasa lad.


  • #55
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    digme wrote: »
    Scientists drill through 2 kilometers of Greenland ice, find butterflies & lush forests

    http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2011/03/scientists-drill-through-2-kilometers.html

    you haven't re raised ****... you've flung donkey sh*te back onto the poker table and expected us to think it money. ffs. I'm out.

    don't believe it if you don't believe it.

    no skin off my ass.


  • #56
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    RichieC wrote: »
    you haven't re raised ****... you've flung donkey sh*te back onto the poker table and expected us to think it money. ffs. I'm out.

    don't believe it if you don't believe it.

    no skin off my ass.
    ya run away cause you just got pwned !!!! "mate" :P


  • #57
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    Hey guess what? Ireland once had an Ice Age - mad isn't it? I wonder what caused this Ice Age. Did the Atlantic conveyor switch off or something? Jaysus what caused that I wonder? Because we certainly didn't.

    The evidence is Hidden in plain site, Mother Earth has all the records it just depends how people wish to interpret them. Thanks to recent exposures, we all know how good some in the Climate change camp are at manipulating evidence.



    Ah poor oul NASA, with their space budget seriously snipped I suppose they need to hang on to some funding. Anyone remember their premature claims of Alien life back in the Nineties?

    No need to be so patronising. I am well aware that Ireland has had an Ice age (several in fact). I am also well aware of the ice core evidence. If you look at this graph you will see that that very same evidence shows that the CO2 concentration now is higher than it has ever been.

    People may argue about the quantity of change and precise mechanisms by which CO2 and temperature interact, but I don't see how anyone of sound mind can't wrap their head around the fact that burning billions and billions of tons of fossil fuels increases the CO2 concentration, I mean, where do you think it's all going?


  • #58
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    digme wrote: »
    ya run away cause you just got pwned !!!! "mate" :P

    yee, you pwned me man... you pwned me.


  • #59
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    digme wrote: »
    the same could be said about nasa lad.

    Ah yes, those halfwits at NASA, what would they know about anything. Sure they think that sending man to the moon and exploring distant planets with robotic space probes is something to be proud of.

    Whereas that blogger at CO2insanity, a reputable and revered academic mind of his likes has not been seen since the days of Einstein, Schrodinger, Bohr and Rutherford.


  • #60
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No need to be so patronising. I am well aware that Ireland has had an Ice age (several in fact). I am also well aware of the ice core evidence. If you look at this graph you will see that that very same evidence shows that the CO2 concentration now is higher than it has ever been.

    People may argue about the quantity of change and precise mechanisms by which CO2 and temperature interact, but I don't see how anyone of sound mind can't wrap their head around the fact that burning billions and billions of tons of fossil fuels increases the CO2 concentration, I mean, where do you think it's all going?

    Scientists drill through 2 kilometers of Greenland ice, find butterflies & lush forests..

    Enough said !


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  • #61
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    RichieC wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    seriously... get real.

    Oh the weighty, intellectual response. So now reality does not exist perhaps? Are you now denying the very real embarrassment caused to NASA by the famous meteorite declaration in the Nineties, ever happened?. But if you are not old enough to remember/weren't born - I could overlook your knowledge deficit in this instance.


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