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thc helps stop tumour growth

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  • #2
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Death also stops growth - but I'd only chose that method as a last resort.
    ...Not that you could take it as a first option! :D


  • #3
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The findings also have been mentioned in the current Politics thread Cannabis should be legalized in Ireland To pull Our country out of ression.


  • #4
    Sykk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    FatherLen wrote: »


    so there is a pretty positive side affect of weed.
    It aint the only good side affect :pac:


  • #5
    RachaelVO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    So I wasn't just getting stoned? I was fighting crime tumours???

    COOL:cool:


  • #6
    The Munky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭The Munky


    If Boards were on the ball they would have a poll on this site and ask the audience....

    T'would provoke interesting debate...

    Nation:

    Are you for legalisation or against it? simples


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  • #7
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    In before someone says "It's illegal so it should be illegal."


  • #8
    The_Minister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Let us hope that these beneficial effects can be seperated and extracted to provide them to those who need them, without the damage caused to the body by the necessity of smoking.

    I'm sure one of the drug companies will be able to come up with something soon.


  • #9
    The Munky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭The Munky


    LOL @ Minister...

    and they said sarcasm doesn't travel over the net....


  • #10
    Jagle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Jagle


    they already tried, it doesnt work, and why do we have to spend billions trying to extract stuff from a plant, and synthesize it, when we can just smoke it,
    and look into bongs, which remove some badness, or vaporizers the best way to smoke without getting the harmful effects of the smoke


  • #11
    stimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭stimpson


    The_Minister wrote: »
    Let us hope that these beneficial effects can be seperated and extracted to provide them to those who need them, without the damage caused to the body by the necessity of smoking.

    I'm sure one of the drug companies will be able to come up with something soon.

    I've yet to see evidence that smoking canabis is as harmful as smoking cigarettes. In any case, there are other ways to ingest it. Why should we pay big pharma money for something that literally grows on trees?


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  • #12
    The_Minister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    stimpson wrote: »
    I've yet to see evidence that smoking canabis is as harmful as smoking cigarettes. In any case, there are other ways to ingest it. Why should we pay big pharma money for something that literally grows on trees?

    They can access the parts of cannabis that make it a curative and purify them. Never underestimate the benefits of controlled doses and the certainty as to the amounts being taken.
    Hopefully these beneficial properties can be expanded with further research and development.

    Also, the medical benefits can be seperated from the part of cannabis that makes you high, allowing these people to drive and otherwise lead productive lives.


  • #13
    Sergeant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    stimpson wrote: »
    I've yet to see evidence that smoking canabis is as harmful as smoking cigarettes. In any case, there are other ways to ingest it. Why should we pay big pharma money for something that literally grows on trees?

    Because the pharmaceutical companies may be able to refine the process of ingestion. And minimise the side-effects of cannabis use, especially amongst the young.

    http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d738.abstract?sid=302d49f0-7ad5-4546-a853-0aedd4b3744b

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0302/breaking16.html


  • #14
    The Munky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭The Munky


    Boo Yaa @ stimpson, there ya go son, you tell him Minister.

    BTW, shouldn't we discuss more then the applications for THC and discuss hemp as the most likely part of the plant to play a part in 'ending' a recession.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp


  • #15
    Sarn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Sarn


    The article is three years old so I'm sure someone has used this in support of legalisation. It appears that the cannabinoids were administered locally, so it implies an injectable administration. Also the analogue that they used in mice was devoid of psychoactive effects.


  • #16
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Cannabis is the gateway drug to heroin. no wonder so many people are on the dole with this drug so ripe within our society!


  • #17
    stimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭stimpson


    The_Minister wrote: »
    They can access the parts of cannabis that make it a curative and purify them. Never underestimate the benefits of controlled doses and the certainty as to the amounts being taken.
    Hopefully these beneficial properties can be expanded with further research and development.

    Also, the medical benefits can be seperated from the part of cannabis that makes you high, allowing these people to drive and otherwise lead productive lives.

    The bit that get's you high IS the THC (as well as Cannabidiol). There are already systhisised cannabinoids available under licence in the UK. For many applications they are not anywhere near as effective as smoking grass.


  • #18
    The Munky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭The Munky


    ignorance is bliss...


  • #19
    stimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Cannabis is the gateway drug to heroin. no wonder so many people are on the dole with this drug so ripe within our society!

    :rolleyes:

    Tea is the real gateway drug. 99.9% of heroin users started on tea.


  • #20
    Yakult
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    No doubt, general public wont ever hear about that nor many other benefits.

    Instead silly statements like the quote below is the way cannabis is broadcasted to the public.
    "Sure if he says it on the radio it has to be true :rolleyes:

    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Cannabis is the gateway drug to heroin. no wonder so many people are on the dole with this drug so ripe within our society!

    lol:D


  • #21
    refusetolose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Cannabis is the gateway drug to heroin. no wonder so many people are on the dole with this drug so ripe within our society!

    lol


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  • #22
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    my cardiologist ( who is one of European leading lights in his field ) told me after my 3rd heart attack that smoking PURE grass would not affect my heart , its the tobacco that will kill you every time .

    i was a heavy cannabis smoker from my teenage years till a few years ago , had no mental or social affect on my life ( never jailed - own business - family - yada yada ) but did nearly kill me by blocking my arteries and causing heart attacks

    its crazy that cannabis's medicinal property's are kicked 2 touch so easily because of the 1950's mentality that it will kill ya and make us all mental so stay well away brigade, ignorance and line towing at its worst

    a radio interview with the head of the ashling project had me nearly having a stroke when i heard it , such narrow self centered views that were being sold as fact , i could hardly contain my rage at this self interested propaganda.

    the main tenant of her argument was the mental issues that SOME smokers get from its use , now forgive me but does the legal drug alcohol not cause more social issues than cannabis ? so why is that not banned ?

    i just got out of 4 days in hospital and i was in a ward with 7 other cardiac patients and every one was in with knackered hearts - and every one was a smoker and drinker - costing the HSE a fortune ( as i did ) from smoking ( with tobacco included ), yet smokes are legal , why ?

    The law makers , lobby groups and people employed in the mental health industry have a vested interest 2 keep this possibly beneficial substance on the scare list - if its legal they lose votes and jobs - in my opinion this is the only reason why is not legal

    if they really cared for the nations health and well being , alcohol and cigarettes would be made illegal tomorrow - they dont and wont
    so dont hold your breath on the dreaded weed being legalized anytime soon


  • #23
    The Munky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭The Munky


    The law makers , lobby groups and people employed in the mental health industry have a vested interest 2 keep this possibly beneficial substance on the scare list - if its legal they loose votes and jobs - in my opinion this is the only reason why is not legal

    BOARDS.IE ????

    Any chance of a poll? Y/N on this debate?


  • #24
    refusetolose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Cannabis is the gateway drug to heroin. no wonder so many people are on the dole with this drug so ripe within our society!

    black market cigarettes are the gateway to pirated dvds


  • #25
    whoopdedoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    Jagle wrote: »
    they already tried, it doesnt work, and why do we have to spend billions trying to extract stuff from a plant, and synthesize it, when we can just smoke it,
    and look into bongs, which remove some badness, or vaporizers the best way to smoke without getting the harmful effects of the smoke

    the tabs they're selling now have extract in the flipping things!! we're told we can't grow or smoke flowers that contain thc yet the same illegal thc is ok in a tab form costing those in the uk £10 a day!!

    in my opinion the only reason it hasn't been approved here yet is the further blurring of the lines of sanity trying to explain this oxymoron


  • #26
    whoopdedoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    Sergeant wrote: »
    Because the pharmaceutical companies may be able to refine the process of ingestion. And minimise the side-effects of cannabis use, especially amongst the young.

    http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d738.abstract?sid=302d49f0-7ad5-4546-a853-0aedd4b3744b

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0302/breaking16.html

    and it only took them 50+ years to come up with some bull to justify they're the only ones that should be trusted when it comes to thc

    wigga please!


  • #27
    Jagle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Jagle


    whoopdedoo wrote: »
    the tabs they're selling now have extract in the flipping things!! we're told we can't grow or smoke flowers that contain thc yet the same illegal thc is ok in a tab form costing those in the uk £10 a day!!

    in my opinion the only reason it hasn't been approved here yet is the further blurring of the lines of sanity trying to explain this oxymoron

    indeed its a joke, all while fueling criminal activity

    just let those who want to grow like spain, problem solved


  • #28
    Sergeant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    whoopdedoo wrote: »
    and it only took them 50+ years to come up with some bull to justify they're the only ones that should be trusted when it comes to thc

    wigga please!

    To be honest, I'd rather place my faith in the following:

    Department of Psychiatry and Neuropsychology, South Limburg Mental Health Research and Teaching Network, EURON, Maastricht University Medical Center, Maastricht, Netherlands
    King’s College London, King’s Health Partners, Department of Psychosis Studies, Institute of Psychiatry, London, UK
    Department of Psychology, Division of Epidemiology and Health Psychology, University of Basel, Switzerland
    Max Planck Institute of Psychiatry, Munich, Germany
    Institute of Clinical Psychology and Psychotherapy, Technical University Dresden, Germany

    than the opinions of someone on a message board.


  • #29
    AnonoMouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭AnonoMouse


    Sergeant wrote: »
    To be honest, I'd rather place my faith in the following:

    Department of Psychiatry and Neuropsychology, South Limburg Mental Health Research and Teaching Network, EURON, Maastricht University Medical Center, Maastricht, Netherlands
    King’s College London, King’s Health Partners, Department of Psychosis Studies, Institute of Psychiatry, London, UK
    Department of Psychology, Division of Epidemiology and Health Psychology, University of Basel, Switzerland
    Max Planck Institute of Psychiatry, Munich, Germany
    Institute of Clinical Psychology and Psychotherapy, Technical University Dresden, Germany

    than the opinions of someone on a message board.

    Somebody had to mention the eurons.


  • #30
    stimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Sergeant wrote: »
    To be honest, I'd rather place my faith in the following:

    Department of Psychiatry and Neuropsychology, South Limburg Mental Health Research and Teaching Network, EURON, Maastricht University Medical Center, Maastricht, Netherlands
    King’s College London, King’s Health Partners, Department of Psychosis Studies, Institute of Psychiatry, London, UK
    Department of Psychology, Division of Epidemiology and Health Psychology, University of Basel, Switzerland
    Max Planck Institute of Psychiatry, Munich, Germany
    Institute of Clinical Psychology and Psychotherapy, Technical University Dresden, Germany

    than the opinions of someone on a message board.

    How about Prof David Nutt, psychiatrist and neuropsychopharmacologist and former UK government advisor?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8334774.stm


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  • #31
    RichieC
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    stimpson wrote: »
    How about Prof David Nutt, psychiatrist and neuropsychopharmacologist and former UK government advisor?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8334774.stm

    Obviously a hippy.


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