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Eircom Phonewatch: what they don't tell you in their ads

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    marbar wrote: »
    in fairness though, cutting the phone lines kills this service anyway
    Eircom phone: "The phone lines been cut router, we're on our own for this one".
    Router: "I'll get the shotgun".


  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭-aboutagirl-


    Sounds strange OP, we have Eircom phonewatch & our phone line was down for a week last month. The whole time the alarm wouldn't stop making beeping warning noises & when you pressed the 'status' button to see what the problem was it said 'phone line failure'. It had the whole house driven mad for a week before someone from Eircom came out to fix the line. Weird that it didn't happen you, maybe its a newer function as we only got our alarm fitted not too long ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Even if they did call the Gaurds, who is to say they would even be there in any sort of a hurry?


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭JimboJones74


    interesting stuff. Thinking of getting alarm. Can anyone recommend a good system (a dog might be cheapest..). was thinking about eircom phonewatch but will skip them based on comments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    interesting stuff. Thinking of getting alarm. Can anyone recommend a good system (a dog might be cheapest..). was thinking about eircom phonewatch but will skip them based on comments.

    Where abouts are you can I ask?


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭boscoroxx


    I have previously worked for Eircom and Eircom Phone Watch. These are actually 2 separate companies, and Phone Watch are in the process of getting the "Eircom" part of the title dropped due to general dissatisfaction and association with Eircom's bad rep.

    I was well trained in on both jobs separately. In regards to cutting phone lines, anyone living in an area with phone lines that are low to the ground or in "easy access" to potential robbers - when pitching EPW to them, we were to recommend to them to get the alarm and a GSM unit (once of cost of 150 euro) it works like a sim card in a mobile so a call can still be made out. Anyone with a pre-existing alarm can get this fitted.

    In relation to the Gardai being contacted, when that alarm is triggered it sends a message to the nearest station/patrol car/pushbike in the area, and it is ten up to the Gardai to get to the scene as quick as possible. EPW have been in discussions with the Gardai to cop n in regards to some response times, due to negative press and lack of trust in the product.

    As for Eircom... I'd rather starve than work there again. The door to door sales reps are allowed to tell anyone anything they like, while anyone working in the call centre had every word recorded and was threatened with Comreg for the stupidest of things. I even had one door to door rep try to sell me a pack of lies while I was working there, he had given me his card with his name and number and then proceeded to s**t himself when I said where I worked and that I'd query the fantastic offer he could sell while we couldnt.

    In the end - EPW have their flaws, and I wait with bated breath for Eircom to sink.


  • Registered Users Posts: 399 ✭✭ElectraX


    Sounds strange OP, we have Eircom phonewatch & our phone line was down for a week last month. The whole time the alarm wouldn't stop making beeping warning noises & when you pressed the 'status' button to see what the problem was it said 'phone line failure'. It had the whole house driven mad for a week before someone from Eircom came out to fix the line. Weird that it didn't happen you, maybe its a newer function as we only got our alarm fitted not too long ago.

    Same thing happened in my parents house. The status button was lit up and when we pressed it, there was failure messages for every sensor point. That's how we were alerted to a problem with it, and when we rang Eircom they said it was a phone line failure and came out and fixed it the next day. Again, the alarm was only installed October last year so maybe that is a newer function.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    interesting stuff. Thinking of getting alarm. Can anyone recommend a good system (a dog might be cheapest..). was thinking about eircom phonewatch but will skip them based on comments.

    Interesting you mentioned a dog as one of the gardaí said to us that there is a machine/device of some sort that you can buy which amounts to a dog barking and that this is one of the best methods for deterring robbers.

    Anybody know anything more about the device they were referring to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Sounds strange OP, we have Eircom phonewatch & our phone line was down for a week last month. The whole time the alarm wouldn't stop making beeping warning noises & when you pressed the 'status' button to see what the problem was it said 'phone line failure'. It had the whole house driven mad for a week before someone from Eircom came out to fix the line. Weird that it didn't happen you, maybe its a newer function as we only got our alarm fitted not too long ago.

    We *definitely* did not have a sound like that; if we had, we would have been sufficiently bothered to pay attention. We did, however, get the recorded "System Arming" sound each time we typed in the code and left, leaving the house with a false sense of security it now transpires.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭messymess


    When the phone line isn't working properly there's a flashing light on the alarm panel to tell you this, no? There is on ours anyway. An alarm is something that needs to be maintained!

    But aside from that they need to integrate a backup GSM/GPRS solution into alarm so that if the phone line is down it will probably still call out. Our phone line has been up and down like a yo you lately.

    Two houses I know (both phonewatch houses) were broken into in the last few weeks ... burglars didn't give a **** and in both cases the alarms weren't turned on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Dionysus wrote: »
    Interesting you mentioned a dog as one of the gardaí said to us that there is a machine/device of some sort that you can buy which amounts to a dog barking and that this is one of the best methods for deterring robbers.

    Anybody know anything more about the device they were referring to?

    Never heard of it but I'm going to look into it.
    Brilliant idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    I've been saying for a long time that they are useless.
    The best case scenario is that it alerts you to the fact you've been broken into sooner than you would otherwise know, and what good is that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭stereo_steve


    Dionysus wrote: »
    Next morning, an Eircom engineer came out and confirmed that we did actually set the alarm but ...

    He's not an engineer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭MASTER...of the bra


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    i can believe every word , slightly off topic but same chancers ( eircom)
    had them at my door try to get me 2 sign up for broadband ( for the 50th time )
    the guy started his spiel , and straight away i was smelling a rat big time , started quoting mental speeds that I KNOW the local exchange does not support ( im a IT engineer with knowledge of this exchange )
    he also started to quote prices for the first twelve months , and i asked what happens after ?? the F*****G spoofing little P****K started making up **** as he went along
    i knew he was being a knob ( he promised if i closed the account on the last day of the 12 months i can re apply next day and get the intro offer )
    but in fact you cant and it would have cost a fortune :eek:
    so i pulled him up on all the points and he started getting all " ahh eh eh well this and eh "
    before i ran him i pointed out all his lies and he just went red and literally
    burst into tears

    not so bad for me i know how to deal with chancers like this but what if it was some elderly couple or some one vulnerable ,
    so yes i belive your story because eircom are a bunch of chancers themselves , could not belive what this guy was trying 2 pull :mad:
    Nope, I can't think of a word that fits in the bold?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭flas


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    i can believe every word , slightly off topic but same chancers ( eircom)
    had them at my door try to get me 2 sign up for broadband ( for the 50th time )
    the guy started his spiel , and straight away i was smelling a rat big time , started quoting mental speeds that I KNOW the local exchange does not support ( im a IT engineer with knowledge of this exchange )
    he also started to quote prices for the first twelve months , and i asked what happens after ?? the F*****G spoofing little P****K started making up **** as he went along
    i knew he was being a knob ( he promised if i closed the account on the last day of the 12 months i cacn re apply next day and get the intro offer )
    but in fact you cant and it would have cost a fortune :eek:
    so i pulled him up on all the points and he started getting all " ahh eh eh well this and eh "
    before i ran him i pointed out all his lies and he just went red and literally
    burst into tears

    not so bad for me i know how to deal with chancers like this but what if it was some elderly couple or some one vulnerable ,
    so yes i belive your story because eircom are a bunch of chancers themselves , could not belive what this guy was trying 2 pull :mad:

    from your post you sound like an awkard prick....

    you do know this lad works on commission


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭Hedman


    flas wrote: »
    from your post you sound like an awkard prick....

    you do know this lad works on commission

    So it's ok to blatantly lie about the product you are selling because you are on commission? :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭JimboJones74


    squod wrote: »
    Where abouts are you can I ask?

    Of course that would be useful. Sunny Dublin 8


  • Registered Users Posts: 724 ✭✭✭cock robin


    Cutting the landline does not disable an alarm. Most have a radio digis which can send a radio signal to monitoring station to alert them that landline has been cut. Removing the cover from the bell box activates or at least it should activate a tamper alarm and this should also be picked up by monitoring station. That said the Eircom system must be ****e if it can be so easily overidden. I worked for Top Security many moons ago and these guys were streets ahead of the current Eircom phone watch system and that was back in the 90s. They were in fact one of the biggest monotoring companies in Europe and in most circumstances patrol drivers would attend your alarm hours before the Gardai and unlike Eircom are still an Irish owned company. So fuck Eircom and their ****ty system just get someone else to monitor your alarm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    I worked in security and eircom imo are sh1te.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Spunge wrote: »
    rob those fúckers dry.

    Homeowners:confused:

    If this weren't true, then the ESB would have no customers left. But they do.
    .

    Up until very recently the ESB have had their prices set for them, harldy their fault.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 MT3



    :confused:

    Do you watch TV at all?

    Bord Gais, the Big Switch?
    Airtricity?
    That's your electrickery sorted.
    Absurdum wrote: »
    Are you seriously telling us you haven't seen those annoying ads with that Lucy one for the last couple of years with her ten percent off jingle? And you haven't heard of Eirtricity and their dubious clean leccy claims?


    I haven't had a TV in about 10 years! Clearly I'm missing out though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭skywalker_208


    Dionysus wrote: »
    We *definitely* did not have a sound like that; if we had, we would have been sufficiently bothered to pay attention. We did, however, get the recorded "System Arming" sound each time we typed in the code and left, leaving the house with a false sense of security it now transpires.

    I believe the beeping sound happens when the line is dead. However original post mentioned Broadband was working but could not make calls.
    So the line was not dead... just an outbound dialling issue - therefore no warning beeps on the alarm panel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭lucozader


    eircom sales reps are total and utter liars

    also the company itself is complete and utter ****

    i hope they die


  • Registered Users Posts: 409 ✭✭lecker Hendl


    The irony in this thread is that Eircom have been robbing you for years. I only cancelled my contract with them a few days ago. Shower of c*nts. Never want the misfortune of dealing with their God awful customer support and shoddy service. I'd rather have a mouse watch the house than eircom phonewatch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Very sorry to hear your house was broken into OP.
    I know it's not an AH answer but it's shít that it happened.

    By the way......Phone watch is pure dung


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    major bill wrote: »
    I worked in security and eircom imo are sh1te.

    I worked in security yrs ago too...early 90s...when eircom surfaced..I can remember my employer being invited to along with a number of other members of the security federation then..cant remmy the exact name..to try and break into an eircom monitored house ....all the invitees were in the house 15 mins or so before the alarm triggered.


  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Some12


    I went to the local Garda station before installing home security and asked about monitored alarm verses CCTV. They said with a monitored alarm, they do sometimes get a call but don't always have someone available to investigate. It could be 15-30 minutes at best or even a few hours or more depending on resources.

    To comfort me though, they said that the alarm noise may annoy the robbers enough to leave before taking too much... Not too much comfort!

    With CCTV, they said there was a good chance of getting my stuff back.

    I've installed CCTV at my house with wireless offsite hard disk backup image storage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    AH -> Home security systems


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Lets see how this runs here. Please bear in mind its no longer AH . ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭altor


    The alarm system should be sending a test call to the monitoring station. When they dont receive it they should contact you. With the alarm system monitoring the line it is only looking for the voltage on the line, so if there is a fault at Eircoms end providing the phone line you wont know about it till the test call does not go through to the monitoring station. The alarm will not show a fault as it can still see the voltage on the line. Only when its cut you will get the fault.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭dev100


    Some12 wrote: »
    I went to the local Garda station before installing home security and asked about monitored alarm verses CCTV. They said with a monitored alarm, they do sometimes get a call but don't always have someone available to investigate. It could be 15-30 minutes at best or even a few hours or more depending on resources.

    To comfort me though, they said that the alarm noise may annoy the robbers enough to leave before taking too much... Not too much comfort!

    With CCTV, they said there was a good chance of getting my stuff back.

    I've installed CCTV at my house with wireless offsite hard disk backup image storage.


    The best answer i ever heard to get a speedy response from the guards if you have intruder in home or trying to break in and you know they will be slow to respond is to say I have a shot gun loaded ready for use....


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