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"Major heroin dealer" beaten and warned to leave country or face death

  • 16-03-2011 06:03PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    CIRA blamed for attack on man (20)
    DISSIDENT Republicans are believed to have carried out a violent punishment beating on a Clondalkin man.

    The attack, which left the 20-year-old man with serious leg injuries, took place close to his home in the Dublin suburb last week. Gardai believe the Continuity IRA may have been behind the attack.

    He was previously assaulted last January, after which a spokesman claiming to be from the Continuity IRA contacted the Herald to claim responsibility.

    The call was made on January 18 and the same message was relayed again two days later, when a man told the Herald that the Clondalkin man who was the victim had a week to leave the country or he would be killed.

    The caller stated that the man had been subjected to a punishment beating in January by members of the CIRA Dublin brigade. It has now emerged that one of the named men was attacked again last weekend.

    Detectives at Clondalkin garda station are investigating the incident. It is understood that the man was beaten.

    The targeted man has previously been issued with security advice by gardai, who are treating the CIRA claims seriously.

    The alleged CIRA spokesperson claimed to the Herald that both men were major heroin dealers and that's why they were being driven from the country.

    This is the second time that the dissident group has called the Herald to warn a target that they must get out of Ireland.

    In a call last June, a man claiming to be from the dissident group said a bomb had been left outside the home of an alleged Dublin drug dealer.

    A "partially exploded" pipe bomb was subsequently discovered at the property in Finglas.


    http://www.herald.ie/national-news/c...0-2581482.html



    I read this today and got thinking. Heroin dealers are scum, I say most will agree. How can they be combated? Its clear the state isn't doing enough and groups like the CIRA both north and south are attempting to capitalize on that with "community policing" in an effort to gain support.

    What can the govt do to eliminate drug dealers? While I don't care about cannabis being legalized I don't think heroin ever should be. It is way too destructive of a drug. People know who these drug dealers are, the Gardaí sure as hell do, how are they still out on the streets?


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭NoseyMike2010


    Druggies OUT OUT OUT!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Taking out the competition


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    I just want to say...

    Hahaha gangsta' fcukas! :cool:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    What can the govt do to eliminate drug dealers?

    Make kids study Requiem For A Dream and Ross Kemp's Extreme World Chicago episode in school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    What Fratton Fred says. I highly doubt this is any kind of ethical community policing, rather just getting rival drug dealers off their patch.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    seamus wrote: »
    What Fratton Fred says. I highly doubt this is any kind of ethical community policing, rather just getting rival drug dealers off their patch.
    In all honesty I feel it is an attempt, certainly in the north, to "community police" in order to build support.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭Tahuti


    seamus wrote: »
    What Fratton Fred says. I highly doubt this is any kind of ethical community policing, rather just getting rival drug dealers off their patch.

    It's much more likely that he didn't pay up when they tried to extort him.

    The republicans are 'taxing' most dealers in the rougher suburbs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,137 ✭✭✭Balfie


    let them all kill each other for all I care, cause that's what drug dealers do, is kill countless amount of people an get away with it..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 400 ✭✭Im Only 71Kg


    they should have just killed him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    In all honesty I feel it is an attempt, certainly in the north, to "community police" in order to build support.

    apparently they help old ladies cross the road and rescue stray puppy dogs too.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    seamus wrote: »
    What Fratton Fred says. I highly doubt this is any kind of ethical community policing, rather just getting rival drug dealers off their patch.

    I remember a similar thread last year basically coming to the same conclusion alright!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    I'm against capital punishment but violence is the only thing that some of these scumbags respect. I wouldnt shead tears over it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Balfie wrote: »
    let them all kill each other for all I care, cause that's what drug dealers do, is kill countless amount of people an get away with it..

    Thats grand till someone innocent gets caught in the middle.



    Moving away for the whole militant republican thing, what can the govt do to combat drug dealers, even if it is just to prevent vigilantism?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭pockets3d


    seamus wrote: »
    What Fratton Fred says. I highly doubt this is any kind of ethical community policing, rather just getting rival drug dealers off their patch.

    Quite an ignorant opinion there. Of course paramilitary groups have to do punishment beatings on career criminals when they force conventional police out of communities otherwise a community infiltrated by the C/RIRA would become a disgraced wasteland more than it already is.

    Next you''ll say they threaten joy riders to ''get rid of the competition''.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    The CIRA don't deal drugs. Can't say I'm a fan of them, or RSF - But anyone who takes out a heroin dealer is worthy of a medal. I have no doubt that they removed him because they don't want any drug dealers supplying children drugs and ruining their lives, and not the more Sun Tabloid inclined headline of "taking out the competition".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Dead right. I absolutely support vigilante work like this. Police often have their hands tied by our sh1tty justice system so let people like those responsible take the necessary action.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭Tahuti


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »


    Moving away for the whole militant republican thing, what can the govt do to combat drug dealers, even if it is just to prevent vigilantism?

    Nothing.

    The 'War on Drugs' has been an abject failure since it's conception.

    Legalise them before more nasty derivatives such as crack and meth are invented.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    While its difficult to have sympathy for a drug dealer, its also hard to support the CIRA if they are using pipe bombs to make their point because it really is only a matter of time before somebody either innocent or completely unrelated is hurt or killed during one of the CIRA's punishments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    He was beaten for either not paying money to them or else they want to drive him off so they can move another dealer in

    There was nothing noble about this act


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Balfie wrote: »
    let them all kill each other for all I care, cause that's what drug dealers do, is kill countless amount of people an get away with it..

    I used to be of the same opinion 'til the likes of that Geoghan chap from Limerick was shot in a case of mistaken identity.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Tahuti wrote: »
    Nothing.

    The 'War on Drugs' has been an abject failure since it's conception.

    Legalise them before more nasty derivatives such as crack and meth are invented.
    I would favor cannabis being legalized, but heroin is so destructive its unreal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Thats grand till someone innocent gets caught in the middle.



    Moving away for the whole militant republican thing, what can the govt do to combat drug dealers, even if it is just to prevent vigilantism?

    take away the supply by investing in a credible border protection force.

    Take away demand by not being so soft on end users.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    yea great, now stop fu*king spray painting your threats to junkies on hard working peoples homes you bunch of hypocrites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Thats grand till someone innocent gets caught in the middle.



    Moving away for the whole militant republican thing, what can the govt do to combat drug dealers, even if it is just to prevent vigilantism?

    Declare open season on people who are reasonably suspected of dealing heroin with their pictures advertised and a small price on their heads. That would be a pretty effective measure I would think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    Taking out the competition

    and those not willing to "donate" a sizable wedge of their finances to the cause


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    take away the supply by investing in a credible border protection force.

    Take away demand by not being so soft on end users.
    Fred, go look at some of these end users they target, they are wrecks of human beings, all they care about is the next fix.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 825 ✭✭✭macroboy


    you are right ..drug dealers are scum..now im off for a pint .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Tough one.

    Sometime any stand against anti-social behaviour is to be tactically welcomed but opening the Pandora's box of letting thon nutcases impose justice is very worrying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    As a person who lives in one of these areas plagued by Drug dealers especially heroin and after all types of measures being taken and tried out,violently and non violently, I would say it has to go back to the social & economic education of the area and the young people who live there, and what also is very important is that we should look at the legalisation & control & distribution of drugs to take away the massive profits that these gangs can make,Everything has been tried in the global war on drugs from executions to life sentences to ampations of limps,yet the drug gangs still operate and get even bigger into more organised gangs,Take the prohibition away from it and let the governments organise & control it themselves.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    dlofnep wrote: »
    The CIRA don't deal drugs. Can't say I'm a fan of them, or RSF - But anyone who takes out a heroin dealer is worthy of a medal. I have no doubt that they removed him because they don't want any drug dealers supplying children drugs and ruining their lives, and not the more Sun Tabloid inclined headline of "taking out the competition".

    bahahahahaha! if you believe that you're so mistaken you must be one of the cira


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