[CoD Black Ops] - MegaBitch thread

Dues Bellator · 14-03-2011 02:15PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Just played two games there one on discovery the other kowloon. I noticed a lad on discovery was camping a bit but I killed him twice so I didn't take much notice. Then the 2nd game on kowloon I was keeping an eye out for him.

1 min gone in the game he had 0 kills 0 deaths
2 min gone the same
right up to 7:50 were I killed him. He was lying down in the building at the back of the map (on top of the stairs)

I went and watched the game in the theatre mode. Until I killed him, he spent the first 7:50 actually lying down with his sights pointed at the door. Honestly in all my time playing call of duty, I've never seen anything as bad as that.

could of been rolling a spliff while on the phone lol

Creasy_bear · 14-03-2011 02:22PM

almanu wrote: »

could of been rolling a spliff while on the phone lol

to be honest I thought about that. Like maybe he walked away from the 360 for a few minutes, but he didn't because he was switching from in/out down the sights. Absolutely ridiculous.

Witcher · 14-03-2011 05:16PM

Just finished up after a few games...the quality of players is just horrible.

Guy in the lobby for 5 games, American kid about 12, kept mouthing off '"omg were losing...you're all assholes'. The guy went 11-32 in the last game and from his recent games I checked..he hasn't gone positive in 25 games. They're not just small losses either they guy is getting hammered every game by differences of about 20 every game.

It would be great to be against him and racking up the kills but jesus I always seem to get teamed up with them, nothing against players who go negative..everyone has different skill levels but loudmouths blaming other players who are all going positive and being dragged down by them pisses me off.:rolleyes:

thefa · 14-03-2011 06:13PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Just played two games there one on discovery the other kowloon. I noticed a lad on discovery was camping a bit but I killed him twice so I didn't take much notice. Then the 2nd game on kowloon I was keeping an eye out for him.

1 min gone in the game he had 0 kills 0 deaths
2 min gone the same
right up to 7:50 were I killed him. He was lying down in the building at the back of the map (on top of the stairs)

I went and watched the game in the theatre mode. Until I killed him, he spent the first 7:50 actually lying down with his sights pointed at the door. Honestly in all my time playing call of duty, I've never seen anything as bad as that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b32Dgc7y-3Y&feature=channel_video_title Go to 7:50 there. Commentators a bit of a loudmouth but is entertaining and comes out with some good points here.

Dues Bellator · 14-03-2011 06:57PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

to be honest I thought about that. Like maybe he walked away from the 360 for a few minutes, but he didn't because he was switching from in/out down the sights. Absolutely ridiculous.

The bastard , deserves to get the rrod:D

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iMuse · 14-03-2011 08:20PM

AGB_Ghost wrote: »

There isnt really a point of running any killstreaks like Chopper gunner or Gunship anymore, everyone just packs a strella.

Yep I stopped running them, I just go with Uav, Counter and Blackbird

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JustPaddy1 · 15-03-2011 02:35AM

minidazzler wrote: »

This can't be about xJawz giveaway? That guy spent LOADS

Got really annoyed playing Dom tonight in Pub matches! :mad: Why does noone play the objectives? I had a negative k/d, like really badly negative, but still came out 2nd in scores a few times because I seemed to be the only one attempting to win.

I was just talking in general but just found out there that the last one i watched before posting was a video of WhiteBoy7thst. I'd post the video here but i refuse to promote it. Down with that sort of thing.

hypermuse · 15-03-2011 09:49AM

AGB_Ghost wrote: »

The gunship should have evasive maneuvers simple as,

This is a very fair point.. if you have got an 11 streak I think it should be harder to shoot outa the sky..

Perhaps it should have 2-3 sets of flairs which you must deploy yourself to evade a lock on....

ghost pro is just super powerful against it.. 2 quicks shots and its down!

Magill · 15-03-2011 10:57AM

You know what... killstreaks in this game are the cheapest form of kills imo

I really have grown to hate these choppergunners/dogs and gunships, they are massively over rewarding and affect the result of the game too much. I find it hilarious that some people think they should be stackable... as if they're actually hard to get (I know some people stuggle.. but in general). For people to actually complain because there chopper gets shot down is FUNNY AS FOOK !

"Oh...I only managed 5 kills with my chopper gunner before it was shot down !!!" They all should have just stood out in the open and let me get 20 undeserved kills because i camped my ass off for 11 gun kills.... im skilled" BOO HOO

Not only are they overpowered, imo its also selfish to use them, especially if you are running with a full party where its not like you need to use them to win the game.... it just makes it incredibly boring for the rest of your team and it usually results in the other team rage quitting. Last nite for example i got pissed off because everyone in my party had high killstreaks so there was times were i'd be standing there doing nothing because there would be choppers and dogs galore... next game i put Attack chopper / Choppergunner and dogs on and guess what.. second round of demo i had 2 of each to use. I think i got at least 90% of the kills for that half and made 4 guys rage quit on the other team, fun for me.. not so much for everyone else.

jimbling · 15-03-2011 11:12AM

Couldn't agree more. In fact, I was in the middle of writing a response saying that I believe all high killstreaks should be removed from the game.

They only person they're fun for is the one that got them. They ruin the game for everyone else (Dogs and CG combo) and induce rage quitters (which is a major problem in Blops games).

krudler · 15-03-2011 11:20AM

Magill wrote: »

You know what... killstreaks in this game are the cheapest form of kills imo

I really have grown to hate these choppergunners/dogs and gunships, they are massively over rewarding and affect the result of the game too much. I find it hilarious that some people think they should be stackable... as if they're actually hard to get (I know some people stuggle.. but in general). For people to actually complain because there chopper gets shot down is FUNNY AS FOOK !

"Oh...I only managed 5 kills with my chopper gunner before it was shot down !!!" They all should have just stood out in the open and let me get 20 undeserved kills because i camped my ass off for 11 gun kills.... im skilled" BOO HOO

Not only are they overpowered, imo its also selfish to use them, especially if you are running with a full party where its not like you need to use them to win the game.... it just makes it incredibly boring for the rest of your team and it usually results in the other team rage quitting. Last nite for example i got pissed off because everyone in my party had high killstreaks so there was times were i'd be standing there doing nothing because there would be choppers and dogs galore... next game i put Attack chopper / Choppergunner and dogs on and guess what.. second round of demo i had 2 of each to use. I think i got at least 90% of the kills for that half and made 4 guys rage quit on the other team, fun for me.. not so much for everyone else.

play barebones then, or stop playing COD altogether since you dont seem to like the game in any way.

Killstreaks are there to be taken down, if a team ragequits because someone has two choppers or whatever, its because they're sh1t players, thats the reason you have an anti air class with ghost and a strela or cold blooded and a stinger.

Is it fun mowing people down with a chopper gunner? course it is, irritating when it gets shot down before you get a kill with it, but I like nothing better than blowing stuff out of the sky before it manages to do any damage. in mw2 if a harrier is coming in and I'm nowhere near a good streak myself, suidice, stinger, boom, its out of the air before its even begun to hover and shoot.

jimbling · 15-03-2011 12:03PM

krudler wrote: »

play barebones then, or stop playing COD

This attitude really gets to me.
Firstly, we're in a mega-bitch thread, so bitching is kind of the done thing. This is where people go to complain about aspects of the game. If everyone that has ever complained about the game just stopped playing then there would be a very small COD community.

Secondly, just because we dont like high killstreaks doesnt mean we should have to play barebones (where there is none, and only TDM and FFA...neither of which I play anymore). I have no problem with the smaller killstreak rewards. Anything up to a Blackbird.

Thirdly, if people didn't complain about these things then the games wouldnt improve. Why do you think Blops is the most balanced of all the COD games? It's because the developers listened to the complaints.

krudler wrote: »

Killstreaks are there to be taken down, if a team ragequits because someone has two choppers or whatever, its because they're sh1t players, thats the reason you have an anti air class with ghost and a strela or cold blooded and a stinger.

That's not really the point though is it. Crap players or not. A game with CGs/Gunships/Dogs flowing is just not very enjoyable for majority of people involved.

If I'm in a lobby where players are constantly getting high kill streak rewards I'll just leave and join another... hoping to get some good games.

All this is my opinion, and I know there's plenty that disagree. It's obvious since many players ONLY goal in a game is to get these high killstreak rewards.
But, I'd like to think that there's also plenty that would agree with me. I mean, do you really think the game would be worse off if CG/Gunship/Dogs were removed? Or do you think it's conceivable that the games might flow better?

KERSPLAT! · 15-03-2011 12:18PM

jimbling wrote: »

This attitude really gets to me.
Firstly, we're in a mega-bitch thread, so bitching is kind of the done thing. This is where people go to complain about aspects of the game. If everyone that has ever complained about the game just stopped playing then there would be a very small COD community.

Secondly, just because we dont like high killstreaks doesnt mean we should have to play barebones (where there is none, and only TDM and FFA...neither of which I play anymore). I have no problem with the smaller killstreak rewards. Anything up to a Blackbird.

Thirdly, if people didn't complain about these things then the games wouldnt improve. Why do you think Blops is the most balanced of all the COD games? It's because the developers listened to the complaints.

That's not really the point though is it. Crap players or not. A game with CGs/Gunships/Dogs flowing is just not very enjoyable for majority of people involved.

If I'm in a lobby where players are constantly getting high kill streak rewards I'll just leave and join another... hoping to get some good games.

All this is my opinion, and I know there's plenty that disagree. It's obvious since many players ONLY goal in a game is to get these high killstreak rewards.
But, I'd like to think that there's also plenty that would agree with me. I mean, do you really think the game would be worse off if CG/Gunship/Dogs were removed? Or do you think it's conceivable that the games might flow better?

I somewhat agree, nothing worse than running from one side of a map to the other over and over again in the hope that a CG or GS will miss
someone :pac: or spotting an enemy only for a dog to maul him just before you pull the trigger

I think Blackbird is ok, it is easily countered (I usually run 3/4/5 and have a spy plane + counter in the air for a majority of the match)

Magill · 15-03-2011 12:26PM

krudler wrote: »

play barebones then, or stop playing COD altogether since you dont seem to like the game in any way.

Killstreaks are there to be taken down, if a team ragequits because someone has two choppers or whatever, its because they're sh1t players, thats the reason you have an anti air class with ghost and a strela or cold blooded and a stinger.

Is it fun mowing people down with a chopper gunner? course it is, irritating when it gets shot down before you get a kill with it, but I like nothing better than blowing stuff out of the sky before it manages to do any damage. in mw2 if a harrier is coming in and I'm nowhere near a good streak myself, suidice, stinger, boom, its out of the air before its even begun to hover and shoot.

No. I enjoy it but i also know what would make it better and know what frustrates me... im sure you also have things that anoy you in black ops.. since you've probably got the most complaints about it on this forum, this is one of mine.

Im not saying that its hard to take out air but that most of the time people dont, really it bothers me more in black ops when people on my own team have it up because for that minute or so i may as well stick my finger up my hole because i'll not be doing anything else. With the chopper/dogs combo you're basically getting 2 killstreaks that are as good as the choppergunner or ac130 in MW2, so while they dont stack you're getting twice the power.

As ade says regularly enough... CoD4 was the best for a reason and i think one of those reason was the lack of overpowered killstreaks that suck the fun out of the game for those that arent in control of them.

Its not like im one of those guys that cant get the high killstreaks and im jealous of those that can.

Creasy_bear · 15-03-2011 12:29PM

Magill wrote: »

No. I enjoy it but i also know what would make it better and know what frustrates me... im sure you also have things that anoy you in black ops.. since you've probably got the most complaints about it on this forum, this is one of mine.

Im not saying that its hard to take out air but that most of the time people dont, really it bothers me more in black ops when people on my own team have it up because for that minute or so i may as well stick my finger up my hole because i'll not be doing anything else. With the chopper/dogs combo you're basically getting 2 killstreaks that are as good as the choppergunner or ac130 in MW2, so while they dont stack you're getting twice the power.

As ade says regularly enough... CoD4 was the best for a reason and i think one of those reason was the lack of overpowered killstreaks that suck the fun out of the game for those that arent in control of them.

Its not like im one of those guys that cant get the high killstreaks and im jealous of those that can.

ouch!

blops >>>>>> any other cod

krudler · 15-03-2011 12:30PM

jimbling wrote: »

This attitude really gets to me.
Firstly, we're in a mega-bitch thread, so bitching is kind of the done thing. This is where people go to complain about aspects of the game. If everyone that has ever complained about the game just stopped playing then there would be a very small COD community.

Secondly, just because we dont like high killstreaks doesnt mean we should have to play barebones (where there is none, and only TDM and FFA...neither of which I play anymore). I have no problem with the smaller killstreak rewards. Anything up to a Blackbird.

Thirdly, if people didn't complain about these things then the games wouldnt improve. Why do you think Blops is the most balanced of all the COD games? It's because the developers listened to the complaints.

That's not really the point though is it. Crap players or not. A game with CGs/Gunships/Dogs flowing is just not very enjoyable for majority of people involved.

If I'm in a lobby where players are constantly getting high kill streak rewards I'll just leave and join another... hoping to get some good games.

All this is my opinion, and I know there's plenty that disagree. It's obvious since many players ONLY goal in a game is to get these high killstreak rewards.
But, I'd like to think that there's also plenty that would agree with me. I mean, do you really think the game would be worse off if CG/Gunship/Dogs were removed? Or do you think it's conceivable that the games might flow better?

you mean games where people on the other team arent getting killstreaks?

personally I love when people have harriers and pavelows in constantly (i mostly play mw2 these days again) as I'll blow them out of the sky all match if I have to. if you're relying on someone else to take out enemy air support its your own fault, I usually get harriers down before they've even stopped flying in on the map, same as chopper gunners as you can see them coming from miles away on open maps.

Magill · 15-03-2011 12:32PM

krudler wrote: »

you mean games where people on the other team arent getting killstreaks?

personally I love when people have harriers and pavelows in constantly (i mostly play mw2 these days again) as I'll blow them out of the sky all match if I have to. if you're relying on someone else to take out enemy air support its your own fault, I usually get harriers down before they've even stopped flying in on the map, same as chopper gunners as you can see them coming from miles away on open maps.

YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. /caps

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krudler · 15-03-2011 12:48PM

Magill wrote: »

No. I enjoy it but i also know what would make it better and know what frustrates me... im sure you also have things that anoy you in black ops.. since you've probably got the most complaints about it on this forum, this is one of mine.

Im not saying that its hard to take out air but that most of the time people dont, really it bothers me more in black ops when people on my own team have it up because for that minute or so i may as well stick my finger up my hole because i'll not be doing anything else. With the chopper/dogs combo you're basically getting 2 killstreaks that are as good as the choppergunner or ac130 in MW2, so while they dont stack you're getting twice the power.

As ade says regularly enough... CoD4 was the best for a reason and i think one of those reason was the lack of overpowered killstreaks that suck the fun out of the game for those that arent in control of them.

Its not like im one of those guys that cant get the high killstreaks and im jealous of those that can.

so run smaller killstreaks yourself then? I do that playing with the xbox lads when they're all geting blackbirds/chopper/dogs as theres no point in having a whole team calling dibs on who gets to bring in their streak next, so I just use uav/counter/sam turret and they contribute to the team in their own way.

jimbling · 15-03-2011 12:53PM

krudler wrote: »

you mean games where people on the other team arent getting killstreaks?

sorry, misread.

I mean where there isn't a flow of high killstreaks. I dont see how you find it so problematic to understand that. You can have excellent close games without constant air support and dogs.

Creasy_bear · 15-03-2011 12:57PM

krudler wrote: »

so run smaller killstreaks yourself then? I do that playing with the xbox lads when they're all geting blackbirds/chopper/dogs as theres no point in having a whole team calling dibs on who gets to bring in their streak next, so I just use uav/counter/sam turret and they contribute to the team in their own way.

that's not going to do anything for him though, as his teammates will still be destroying the other team from above. He'll still just be legging it around the map to their spawn by the time he gets there, their spawn will have switched again :pac:

re - him standing around with his finger up his hole

In all fairness though, people will complain about ANYTHING in this or any other cod game, including myself.

krudler · 15-03-2011 12:59PM

jimbling wrote: »

sorry, misread.

I mean where there isn't a flow of high killstreaks. I dont see how you find it so problematic to understand that. You can have excellent close games without constant air support and dogs.

no doubt, I just dont have a problem with people having multiple air support up, you can take it out in seconds.

as for me complaining the most about Blops, hardly, I do think its more balanced than MW2, I just happen to find MW2 more fun to play, even with all the oma/dc bullsh1t. of both games heres what annoys me:

Blops
sound design isnt a patch on MW2
ghost pro, unbalanced and unfair
2nd chance
couple of the maps are a bit dull
choppers take too long to finish and cant have multiple air support up

MW2
oma/dc/commando noobs/cheap tactics
campers
errr, thats about it really

krudler · 15-03-2011 01:05PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

that's not going to do anything for him though, as his teammates will still be destroying the other team from above. He'll still just be legging it around the map to their spawn by the time he gets there, their spawn will have switched again :pac:

re - him standing around with his finger up his hole

In all fairness though, people will complain about ANYTHING in this or any other cod game, including myself.

very true, we're all a bunch of whingebags :pac:

you're never gonna gte a COD game that works on every level for every player, its the mature of MP games, someone will always have an issue with how they were killed, fair or not

Magill · 15-03-2011 01:45PM

krudler wrote: »

so run smaller killstreaks yourself then? I do that playing with the xbox lads when they're all geting blackbirds/chopper/dogs as theres no point in having a whole team calling dibs on who gets to bring in their streak next, so I just use uav/counter/sam turret and they contribute to the team in their own way.

I do, i pretty much have spyplane/counterspy plane up for the entire game but my point isnt that im not contributing to us winning, its that for large sections of the game im not doing anything because of overpowered killstreaks raping the other team. The likes of dogs... i dont see how anyone can get any sort of satisfaction from it.. like the pavelow in MW2 all you do is press one button and watch the kills rake in, its not skillful and i dont see how its fun... unless numbers = fun to you.

btw shooting a chopper down when dogs and 6 good players are spawn trapping you isnt easy, i'd like to see you try and shoot down chopper gunners when you're being spawn trapped by a decent party.

krudler · 15-03-2011 01:53PM

Magill wrote: »

I do, i pretty much have spyplane/counterspy plane up for the entire game but my point isnt that im not contributing to us winning, its that for large sections of the game im not doing anything because of overpowered killstreaks raping the other team. The likes of dogs... i dont see how anyone can get any sort of satisfaction from it.. like the pavelow in MW2 all you do is press one button and watch the kills rake in, its not skillful and i dont see how its fun... unless numbers = fun to you.

btw shooting a chopper down when dogs and 6 good players are spawn trapping you isnt easy, i'd like to see you try and shoot down chopper gunners when you're being spawn trapped by a decent party.

I stopped using dogs cos when I get them as a streak they must spend their time running around playfully licking people as they never get me kills. get them out of a care package and they seem to savage everyone on the map, its weird. I agree though streaks where you're doing the killing yourself is more satisfying

jimbling · 15-03-2011 02:04PM

krudler wrote: »

no doubt, I just dont have a problem with people having multiple air support up, you can take it out in seconds.

Obviously I know that... and that's all you had to state. But you didn't do that, you came on giving out about Magill's complaint telling him to go play barebones or dont play at all if he doesn't like it.

krudler wrote: »

as for me complaining the most about Blops, hardly, I do think its more balanced than MW2, I just happen to find MW2 more fun to play, even with all the oma/dc bullsh1t. of both games heres what annoys me:

Blops
sound design isnt a patch on MW2
ghost pro, unbalanced and unfair
2nd chance
couple of the maps are a bit dull
choppers take too long to finish and cant have multiple air support up

MW2
oma/dc/commando noobs/cheap tactics
campers
errr, thats about it really

Well, I wasn't the one to mention you complaining as I have no idea of your history. Cant say I've noted you as bitching a lot, but that's irrelevant.

About the above. Well, the bolded part is the important bit. I, and LOTS of others, disagree and think MW2 had a lot more problems than blops has.

jimbling · 15-03-2011 02:20PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

In all fairness though, people will complain about ANYTHING in this or any other cod game, including myself.

Lads, its nothing to do with Blops, COD or gaming in general. It's just human nature. Without our innate need / want to question and debate things we would not be the species we are.

We'd probably be a lot happier though :pac:

Magill · 15-03-2011 02:24PM

jimbling wrote: »

About the above. Well, the bolded part is the important bit. I, and LOTS of others, disagree and think MW2 had a lot more problems than blops has.

He listed most of them

just he put them all in one group and didnt put them in caps because they're 10 times worse than ghost or dull maps. Second chance and ghost were in MW2.. they were just overshadowed by DC/Commando..

I actually think MW2 did a lot right but they just failed on 1 or 2 things that messed the game up alot more than ghost ever could. Sniping is so much more satisfying for one and i'd say in general the guns are better than in blops and probably just as balanced (Black ops has alot of underpowered guns). When playing the game tho its just a constant sound of noobtubes and rockets. I actually have a funny clip from the other day where a rocket went past my head and hit a wall about 15 meters behind me and still managed to kill me. AC130 is diffo more fun to use than the choppers in blops but they are far too easy to get...

MW2 is a montage makers wet dream tho

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