Adare Manor membership fees

Nutri Eire · 15-03-2011 11:33AM #1

Does anyone know of what rates existing full members pay at Adare Manor (not the hotel course).

PM me if you would prefer.

Thanks.

Nutri Eire · 15-03-2011 12:00PM

or at Ardagh NCW golf club?

blackwaterfish · 15-03-2011 01:20PM

http://www.gui.ie/membership_search.asp?area=1

taco11 · 15-03-2011 01:34PM

NCW Golf Club Yearly Full Membership sub is about 760 euro.....i think new members can join for 1000euro - includes membership and first year sub!!

Nutri Eire · 15-03-2011 02:14PM

blackwaterfish wrote: »

http://www.gui.ie/membership_search.asp?area=1

Thanks for the link but no fees or subs quoted there for Adare Manor.

Nutri Eire · 15-03-2011 11:14PM

Do you think there is any room for haggling with membership rates? lets say a club asks for €1000 and you say €750 what responce do you recon I would get. €750 is better than nothing.

samdeman · 16-03-2011 01:17AM

defo haggle. if they say no discount, no prob. it wont go up in price. always worth a chance. i haggle everywhere. even the new set of clubs i bought. he would not budge past a 5% discount. i just kept at it and he just got so tired of me in the end he gave me the 25% i was looking for!! everywhere expects it now. i do it for green fees, restaurants, you name it, i chance my arm! nothing to lose

Garda S Horgan · 16-03-2011 10:57AM

samdeman wrote: »

defo haggle. if they say no discount, no prob. it wont go up in price. always worth a chance. i haggle everywhere. even the new set of clubs i bought. he would not budge past a 5% discount. i just kept at it and he just got so tired of me in the end he gave me the 25% i was looking for!! everywhere expects it now. i do it for green fees, restaurants, you name it, i chance my arm! nothing to lose

:eek:

How does it work in Restaurants?

"I see your steak there is €28. I'll give you €22 for it or I'll give you €26 and you throw in an extra plate of mushrooms and an extra plate of chips"

You can't very well get a bill for 100 euro and then offer 95. Or can you?

Yours in wonderment.
GSH.

Nutri Eire · 16-03-2011 11:32AM

Garda S Horgan wrote: »

:eek:

How does it work in Restaurants?

"I see your steak there is €28. I'll give you €22 for it or I'll give you €26 and you throw in an extra plate of mushrooms and an extra plate of chips"

You can't very well get a bill for 100 euro and then offer 95. Or can you?

Yours in wonderment.
GSH.

Once you received the service (Restaurant) I think you can't really haggle as their has been an offer and an acceptance which forms a contract.

I think most people would move 10% rather than lose the business. i.e - a shop selling a set of clubs for €700 (mark up of maybe 50%) so purchased for circa €470, a 10% haggle discount would still leave a margin €160. They can always get another set in the next day and have €160 in their back pocket.

Aesop · 16-03-2011 01:41PM

Newcastle West Golf club has a special offer of €800 at the moment.

http://newcastlewestgolf.com/index.php?p=membershipgreen

VikingG · 16-03-2011 01:59PM

Hi,
Funny enough I phoned Adare yesterday ....

€1000 for year 1 ...but their annual sub is €808 ..

also phoned Limerick County and they are still looking for €8000 hello money.... which is spread over the first 4 years... but they will accept €7000 if you pay it one go.... that is not going to happen anyway.

regards

Nutri Eire · 16-03-2011 02:07PM

VikingG wrote: »

Hi,
Funny enough I phoned Adare yesterday ....

€1000 for year 1 ...but their annual sub is €808 ..

also phoned Limerick County and they are still looking for €8000 hello money.... which is spread over the first 4 years... but they will accept €7000 if you pay it one go.... that is not going to happen anyway.

regards

Is that Limerick Golf club or Limerick County?

Does €1000 represent good value considering annual subs are €808? Also in relation to other local clubs in the limerick area.

VikingG · 16-03-2011 02:15PM

Nutri Eire wrote: »

Is that Limerick Golf club or Limerick County?

Does €1000 represent good value considering annual subs are €808? Also in relation to other local clubs in the limerick area.

Sorry that is Limerick Golf Club.... Limerick County is now closed by the way.

I have never played the Adare course so can't comment on whether it is good value.... The cheapest around is Rathbane at €560 or thereabouts.

NCW and BallyKisteen are just a bit too far out for me.

Another option is Bodyke (http://www.eastclare.com/eastclare/www/) which is €650
regards

Nutri Eire · 16-03-2011 03:29PM

I think distance to the golf course with regards to convenience and the annual cost of driving to and from the course with the way petrol prices are going have to be taken into consideration.

Aesop · 16-03-2011 04:01PM

VikingG wrote: »

also phoned Limerick County and they are still looking for €8000 hello money.... which is spread over the first 4 years... but they will accept €7000 if you pay it one go....

Sweet mother of God €8000 hello money is insane for Limerick Golf Club, I don't care how shiny the clubhouse is. I thought €4000 for Castletroy was a lot and I'd rate that course at castletroy over Limerick GC. Makes Dromoland at €5000 look like good value.

Nutri Eire · 16-03-2011 04:26PM

Aesop wrote: »

Sweet mother of God €8000 hello money is insane for Limerick Golf Club, I don't care how shiny the clubhouse is. I thought €4000 for Castletroy was a lot and I'd rate that course at castletroy over Limerick GC. Makes Dromoland at €5000 look like good value.

€8,000 is a lot of money for a club that has a lot of members already. I can imagine that any clubs that made capital investments over the last 4 years must be finding it tough going.

I read another thread where hello money at Ballybunion was €2,500 (2009).

mr.mickels · 16-03-2011 08:57PM

In another thread I was told Douglas GC, Cork are asking €12k entrance plus €1300 a year. Fota is asking for €15k entrance spread now over 15 years + €2k per year, was significantly higher a few years ago I believe.

Some of the clubs in Cork have removed the entrance fee entirely and also reduced the yearly sub to get golfers in, numbers are down everywhere. It must be worth haggling over the entrance fee.

Nutri Eire · 16-03-2011 09:25PM

mr.mickels wrote: »

In another thread I was told Douglas GC, Cork are asking €12k entrance plus €1300 a year. Fota is asking for €15k entrance spread now over 15 years + €2k per year, was significantly higher a few years ago I believe.

Some of the clubs in Cork have removed the entrance fee entirely and also reduced the yearly sub to get golfers in, numbers are down everywhere. It must be worth haggling over the entrance fee.

Ye must all be loaded down in Cork

, so Fota are asking for €45,000 minimum for 15 years golf. Give it a couple of years and I'd say you could divide that figure in half, I think in 2010 the GUI lost 8,000 members, 3,000 in 2009, what number in 2011 . . . their seems to be a trend developing.

mr.mickels · 16-03-2011 09:41PM

Nutri Eire wrote: »

Ye must all be loaded down in Cork , so Fota are asking for €45,000 minimum for 15 years golf. Give it a couple of years and I'd say you could divide that figure in half, I think in 2010 the GUI lost 8,000 members, 3,000 in 2009, what number in 2011 . . . their seems to be a trend developing.

After the Irish Open was held in Fota I was told the entrance fee was €40k!!! I have no idea if it ever went as mad as that, but prices in Cork for everything are very high, have overtaken Dublin as the most expensive house prices in Ireland, prices haven't fallen as much as other parts of the country. Fota Island is now taken over by the banks, which would suggest their pricing and marketing strategy isn't working!!!

Castlemartyer and the course near Blarney are 2 others in Cork that were looking to charge crazy money when they first opened, and have dropped their fees enormously in recent times. The whole county needed a dose of reality.

Nutri Eire · 16-03-2011 09:52PM

mr.mickels wrote: »

After the Irish Open was held in Fota I was told the entrance fee was €40k!!! I have no idea if it ever went as mad as that, but prices in Cork for everything are very high, have overtaken Dublin as the most expensive house prices in Ireland, prices haven't fallen as much as other parts of the country. Fota Island is now taken over by the banks, which would suggest their pricing and marketing strategy isn't working!!!

Castlemartyer and the course near Blarney are 2 others in Cork that were looking to charge crazy money when they first opened, and have dropped their fees enormously in recent times. The whole county needed a dose of reality.

I agree with you, its not the year 2007 anymore. I think prices across all areas of the economy will have to come down a long way yet. Talk to any courier company in Ireland and they will tell you that business is booming as people are buying online from outside of Ireland.

I recently tried to get a logo designed in Ireland and was quoted anything from €300 -€500 for the pleasure. I just could not justify those prices so got a great service, much better that what was offered to me here for €70 in another country. I want to buy Irish and support Irish businesses but they need to be more competitive on a global scale.

f22 · 17-03-2011 10:32AM

Nutri Eire wrote: »

I agree with you, its not the year 2007 anymore. I think prices across all areas of the economy will have to come down a long way yet. Talk to any courier company in Ireland and they will tell you that business is booming as people are buying online from outside of Ireland.

I recently tried to get a logo designed in Ireland and was quoted anything from €300 -€500 for the pleasure. I just could not justify those prices so got a great service, much better that what was offered to me here for €70 in another country. I want to buy Irish and support Irish businesses but they need to be more competitive on a global scale.

Well you certainly got what you paid for with your logo, pay peanuts get a monkey springs to mind. Cheap is one thing, value is another!

mikemac · 17-03-2011 10:38AM

Nutri Eire wrote: »

I recently tried to get a logo designed in Ireland and was quoted anything from €300 -€500 for the pleasure. I just could not justify those prices so got a great service, much better that what was offered to me here for €70 in another country. I want to buy Irish and support Irish businesses but they need to be more competitive on a global scale.

Good luck with your business.
Next time give a college student some money to do it, they get credit and experience for the work and you don't pay huge professional fees

Dublinboy99 · 17-03-2011 11:34AM

Clubs need to live in the real world and do away with the "hello" money. Lots of clubs have already done away with this and €8000 for Limerick GC is mad given that it is a very ordinary course. Good location and nice clubhouse and course always in good nic but its an average course. Pit you dont live near Portumna, no hello money and €495 yearly sub on one of Irelands best parkland courses.

dines08 · 17-03-2011 07:13PM

Played Shannon today... Great course, top notch practice facility's and superb food. €20 green fee and €15 for a meal and a pint. All in all a great day. So great I asked what membership cost? €4000 up front and €910 a year afterward. Can't understand the need for such a high levy. €910 yearly I'd join today... €4000 up front, sorry... Couldn't justify it

dines08 · 17-03-2011 07:17PM

Oh and another thing... Ardagh/Newcastlewest golf club at €800 with no sub is absolutely great value if you live locally. Just too far from me... Hard to find a better deal than that in the country I'd say.

Nutri Eire · 17-03-2011 07:57PM

Thanks for bringing the thread back, I was getting tired of people talking about logos:rolleyes:

I think you make a very valid point when you talk about shannon GC. €20 green fees and €4,000 joining fees. Those two number don't make since unless you plan to play 365 days of the year

can anyone beat a multiple of 200 times the green fee as a joining fee. It would be interesting to find out. Might start a new thread.

As for NCW golf club, it is only 10 mins from me so €800 and no joining fee does offer value.

f22 · 17-03-2011 08:20PM

Christ almighty, it's like a broken record here sometimes. Tonnes of clubs have entrance fees and will continue to have them.

1. They can afford to, they simply don't need a large influx of new members each year.

2. It eliminates transient golfers hopping from one club to another every year for varying reasons.

The majority of clubs still charging entrance fees have reduced them, it's simple economics. If an entrance fee deters you for whatever reason, fair enough, simply join somewhere else. Quit moaning about it though!

Nutri Eire · 17-03-2011 08:26PM

f22 wrote: »

Christ almighty, it's like a broken record here sometimes. Tonnes of clubs have entrance fees and will continue to have them.

1. They can afford to, they simply don't need a large influx of new members each year.

2. It eliminates transient golfers hopping from one club to another every year for varying reasons.

The majority of clubs still charging entrance fees have reduced them, it's simple economics. If an entrance fee deters you for whatever reason, fair enough, simply join somewhere else. Quit shunting about it though!

Thanks for the advice but your view is simplistic, there are a whole lot of other factors at play. A multiple of 200 as outlined above does not make sence. If you do not like this thread there are plenty of others you can follow.

f22 · 17-03-2011 09:36PM

You used Shannon as an example, is Shannon e20 to play every day, pretty doubtful. Like any other members club you're probably prohibited as a visitor on certain days.

Comparing a green fee (open day fee) multiple is nonsense really. Members join a club for life, or at least a lengthy period so the entrance fee becomes negligible over time. Yes, you have to play most weeks for if to make sense but 365 days a year is a little far fetched.

Jimdagym · 17-03-2011 09:38PM

Nutri Eire, your posts read exactly like conno's...

Nutri Eire · 17-03-2011 09:44PM

Jimdagym wrote: »

Nutri Eire, your posts read exactly like conno's...

You will have to expand on that a little bit, who or what are "conno's"

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