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Has the bastardisation of science become the new religion?
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14-03-2011 03:25PM#1This is not about Science by the way (well, not in the true sense of the word at least).
It's about the new foolish masses (apt word for so many reasons) that think by just mentioning the word "science" - they have somehow won a debate or in doing so, that their opinions are somehow inherently correct. They will usually make remarks about certain subjects as being "science" based - but almost everything is bloody science based at some level for God's sake (Opps, AH naughty step for mentioning the 'G' word).
Just because Science was, or is currently being used in a certain area, or is even at the heart of some thing's very existence, does NOT then make that: "science". I am wearing jeans that would not be here but for Science. When I squirt Ketchup on my chips, it's thanks to Science for making squeezable plastic bottles. When I get my rampant rabbit out and use it's motorised rotating head, that's down to science.
Just because someone might take issue with something and science has being used in it's coming about, in it's finding or in it's creation - this does NOT then make them "anti-science". Some of us are just not gullible enough to believe that everything that comes about because "science" has been used in it's discover, is in the best interests of humanity, that's all.
I really wish all you "science" worshipping sycophants would realise that "science" is just system of acquiring knowledge through observation and/or[SIZE=-1] experimentation[/SIZE]. When you refer to others as "anti-science" and the like, or accuse people of not believing in "science based" findings etc, you look foolish.
Do "anti-science" people even exist?
If they did, these people would never walk across a bridge ffs. They wouldn't use computers, or take medicines, or go to the dentist, or watch television, or drive a car, or do a million other things that would not be possible because of the use of science in their creation. So please, quit hijacking the word "science". We all appreciate the amazing advances that humans have made through observation, research and experimentation. Saying you "like" Science and implying that somehow others don't, is laughable. There is NOTHING unique about you because use the word science, truly.
Which brings me to the religion aspect of this.
What is this phenomena where people keep crowbarring the word "science" into every single conversation/debate these days? It's done in such a smug way also, as if the mere mentioning of the word means that the possibility of them being wrong, has just been obliterated. (1) I think they feel that the very word has superhuman powers and so that is the reason for their (2) worshipping of it. It has got to the stage where (3) people can have no opinion of their own without looking to what science's stance is on the subject.
The last three examples being pretty much what the definition of just what religion is after all.
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TL;DR:
Has this new bastardisation of science now become like a new type of religion? Is there a new breed of people that, instead of having blind faith in a man in the sky with a white beard, now instead just have blind faith in a man in a lab, with a white coat?
Poll private of course, due to the obvious stigma of speaking out against "science" in any form and sure I wouldn't want any blasphemers being burnt at the stake bunsen burner on my account
Has the bastardisation of science become the new religion? 76 votes
Yes0% 0 votesNo47% 36 votesCommodore 6452% 40 votes1
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OutlawPete wrote: »Is there a new breed of people that, instead of having blind faith in a man in the sky with a white beard, now instead just have blind faith in a man in a lab, with a white coat?
What religion is that? I've never heard of it personally
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OutlawPete wrote: »This is not about Science by the way (well, not in the true sense of the word at least).
It's about the new foolish masses (apt word for so many reasons) that think by just mentioning the word "science" - they have somehow won a debate or in doing so, that their opinions are somehow inherently correct. They will usually make remarks about certain subjects as being "science" based - but almost everything is bloody science based at some level for God's sake (Opps, AH naughty step for mentioning the 'G' word).
Just because Science was, or is currently being used in a certain area, or is even at the heart of some thing's very existence, does NOT then make that: "science". I am wearing jeans that would not be here but for Science. When I squirt Ketchup on my chips, it's thanks to Science for making squeezable plastic bottles. When I get my rampant rabbit out and use it's motorised rotating head, that's down to science.
Just because someone might take issue with something and science has being used in it's coming about, in it's finding or in it's creation - this does NOT then make them "anti-science". Some of us are just not gullible enough to believe that everything that comes about because "science" has been used in it's discover, is in the best interests of humanity, that's all.
I really wish all you "science" worshipping sycophants would realise that "science" is just system of acquiring knowledge through observation and/or[SIZE=-1] experimentation[/SIZE]. When you refer to others as "anti-science" and the like, or accuse people of not believing in "science based" findings etc, you look foolish.
Do "anti-science" people even exist?
If they did, these people would never walk across a bridge ffs. They wouldn't use computers, or take medicines, or go to the dentist, or watch television, or drive a car, or do a million other things that would not be possible because of the use of science in their creation. So please, quit hijacking the word "science". We all appreciate the amazing advances that humans have made through observation, research and experimentation. Saying you "like" Science and implying that somehow others don't, is laughable. There is NOTHING unique about you because use the word science, truly.
Which brings me to the religion aspect of this.
What is this phenomena where people keep crowbarring the word "science" into every single conversation/debate these days? It's done in such a smug way also, as if the mere mentioning of the word means that the possibility of them being wrong, has just been obliterated. (1) I think they feel that the very word has superhuman powers and so that is the reason for their (2) worshipping of it. It has got to the stage where (3) people can have no opinion of their own without looking to what science's stance is on the subject.
The last three examples being pretty much what the definition of just what religion is after all.
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TL;DR:
Has this new bastardisation of science now become like a new type of religion? Is there a new breed of people that, instead of having blind faith in a man in the sky with a white beard, now instead just have blind faith in a man in a lab, with a white coat?
Poll private of course, due to the obvious stigma of speaking out against "science" in any form and sure I wouldn't want any blasphemers being burnt at the stake bunsen burner on my account
how has this thread made it to two pages without THAT being raised?0 -
Come on, he's obviously referring to Christianity, possibly as exact as Catholicism. I'm not trying to flame you but you're being a bit naive there purposely.
Christians don't believe that God is a physical man in the sky. That's why I'm asking what religion it is, it sounds interesting!
Logical Fallacy wrote: »Theists too stupid to realise that there faith is a personal thing that doesn't require the validation of the masses (uberpun) to still be relevant to them and Atheists demanding physical proof of a faith based system.
Faith isn't a "personal thing" or a "private matter" as far as I would see it. Especially if it has implications for all of mankind.0 -
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Christians don't believe that God is a physical man in the sky. That's why I'm asking what religion it is, it sounds interesting!
Faith isn't a "personal thing" or a "private matter" as far as I would see it. Especially if it has implications for all of mankind.
mormons do though? thats way more believable, god comes from another planet, like Superman :pac:0 -
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